In message , gastec
writes

I fear that the tightened regulations regarding ventilation for open
flued natural draught appliances has really put a full stop on warm air
installation..2008 will really cause an uproar when the ventilation
requirements tighten further...i guess room sealed warm air would be
the way to go if you want to go that way...

seems like a lot of bother when wet systems really meets all the
current safety requirments...

Let me hazard a guess and say that its ALOT EASIER to fit a wet system
than a warm air system??

im not a fitter or engineer by the way! a wee bit higher up the
ranks

Aha, so that's why you keep on coming up with erroneous statements

I was wondering


--
geoff

In article ,
gastec writes:

I fear that the tightened regulations regarding ventilation for open
flued natural draught appliances has really put a full stop on warm air
installation..

Why -- what on earth have they got to do with each other?

--
Andrew Gabriel

In message , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
gastec writes:

I fear that the tightened regulations regarding ventilation for open
flued natural draught appliances has really put a full stop on warm air
installation..

Why -- what on earth have they got to do with each other?

He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

--
geoff

On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:20:09 +0000, gastec
wrote:


I fear that the tightened regulations regarding ventilation for open
flued natural draught appliances has really put a full stop on warm air
installation..2008 will really cause an uproar when the ventilation
requirements tighten further...i guess room sealed warm air would be
the way to go if you want to go that way...

seems like a lot of bother when wet systems really meets all the
current safety requirments...

Let me hazard a guess and say that its ALOT EASIER to fit a wet system
than a warm air system??

im not a fitter or engineer by the way! a wee bit higher up the
ranks


So you must be Roger Carr and I claim my £5.


--

..andy

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
gastec writes:

I fear that the tightened regulations regarding ventilation for open
flued natural draught appliances has really put a full stop on warm air
installation..

Why -- what on earth have they got to do with each other?

He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

Maxie, it is clear he is a nut who hasn't a clue. Oh no! Not another one on
this this group.

"gastec" wrote in message
...


SNIP


im not a fitter or engineer by the way! a wee bit higher up the
ranks

But only a couple of days ago you said you serviced/repaired ten systems a
day. Please try to stick to the same story!

"John" wrote in message
...

"gastec" wrote in message
...

SNIP

im not a fitter or engineer by the way! a wee bit higher up the
ranks

But only a couple of days ago you said you serviced/repaired ten systems a
day. Please try to stick to the same story!

This is good, a who done it.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:21:15 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Andrew Gabriel
writes
In article ,
gastec writes:

I fear that the tightened regulations regarding ventilation for open
flued natural draught appliances has really put a full stop on warm air
installation..

Why -- what on earth have they got to do with each other?

He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

Maxie, it is clear he is a nut who hasn't a clue. Oh no! Not another one on
this this group.

Coming from you that IS funny :-)




--

"Matt" aka Lord Hall wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:21:15 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Andrew
Gabriel
writes
In article ,
gastec writes:

I fear that the tightened regulations regarding ventilation for open
flued natural draught appliances has really put a full stop on warm
air
installation..

Why -- what on earth have they got to do with each other?

He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

Maxie, it is clear he is a nut who hasn't a clue. Oh no! Not another one
on
this this group.

Coming

Lord Hall, how is that cupboard full of multimasters doing? Do you polish
them every day?

In message , John
writes

"gastec" wrote in message
...


SNIP


im not a fitter or engineer by the way! a wee bit higher up the
ranks

But only a couple of days ago you said you serviced/repaired ten systems a
day. Please try to stick to the same story!


Well batted Mr Jessop


--
geoff

[He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

--
geoff[/quote]

Now there you go again trying to find out my job title...Lets just remind you all about RIDDOR..

I cant say any more on the job subject...However i hope you ALL follow the Gas Regs to the letter

On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:52:20 +0000, gastec
wrote:


[He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

--
geoff

Now there you go again trying to find out my job title...Lets just remind
you all about RIDDOR..

I cant say any more on the job subject...However i hope you ALL follow
the Gas Regs to the letter

Oooh how exciting, are you from the HSE?


--

In message , gastec
writes

raden Wrote:
In message , Andrew
Gabriel
writes
In article ,
gastec writes:

I fear that the tightened regulations regarding ventilation for open
flued natural draught appliances has really put a full stop on warm
air
installation..

Why -- what on earth have they got to do with each other?

He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

--
geoff

Hey Geoff there you go again trying work out title,,,just think about
RIDDOR..


Sorry, every time you post I just think ****

--
geoff

In message , gastec
writes

[He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

--
geoff

Now there you go again trying to find out my job title...


Really, no

But then, you seem to be a bit ambiguous on that point too

As john pointed out, you seem to have contradicted yourself

and from the start you seem to have been posting advice which just isn't
correct

You see, there are people here who do have a clue, you have yet to show
that you fall into this category

--
geoff

In message , Matt
writes
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:52:20 +0000, gastec
wrote:


[He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

--
geoff

Now there you go again trying to find out my job title...Lets just remind
you all about RIDDOR..

I cant say any more on the job subject...However i hope you ALL follow
the Gas Regs to the letter

Oooh how exciting, are you from the HSE?

What, with gastek@ as an email addy ?

plumbers assistant who spends his time nattering to drivel over a length
of 15 mil
--
geoff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , Matt
writes
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:52:20 +0000, gastec
wrote:


[He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

--
geoff

Now there you go again trying to find out my job title...Lets just
remind
you all about RIDDOR..

I cant say any more on the job subject...However i hope you ALL follow
the Gas Regs to the letter

Oooh how exciting, are you from the HSE?

What, with gastek@ as an email addy ?

plumbers assistant who spends his time nattering to drivel over a length
of 15 mil

Maxie he is doing a lot of talking to you I see.

"Matt" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:52:20 +0000, gastec
wrote:


[He's a middle manager - logical thought doesn't seem to come easily to
him

--
geoff

Now there you go again trying to find out my job title...Lets just remind
you all about RIDDOR..

I cant say any more on the job subject...However i hope you ALL follow
the Gas Regs to the letter

Oooh how exciting, are you from the HSE?

Nah - he wouldn't be able to claim to service or repair ten systems a day

I usually do follow up work after job is complete....again i cant say much more ..

plug checks first !
remember to follow analyser proceedures
then the one you lot ususally get wrong. ventilation
remember the fsd checks or to the old lads like geoff ffd checks
flue flow tests and spillage

again geoff that a smoke test

and mr drivel remember that old puff tests, are no longer advisable

"gastec" wrote in message
...

I usually do follow up work after job is complete....again i cant say
much more ..

plug checks first !
remember to follow analyser proceedures
then the one you lot ususally get wrong. ventilation
remember the fsd checks or to the old lads like geoff ffd checks
flue flow tests and spillage

again geoff that a smoke test

and mr drivel remember that old puff tests, are no longer advisable

Are you related to Richard Cranium and Rummy boy?

In message , gastec
writes

I usually do follow up work after job is complete....again i cant say
much more ..

plug checks first !
remember to follow analyser proceedures
then the one you lot ususally get wrong. ventilation
remember the fsd checks or to the old lads like geoff

Don't look at me - I'm not a fitter

I do think that you and Drivel should get married, you're perfect for
each other

--
geoff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , gastec
writes

I usually do follow up work after job is complete....again i cant say
much more ..

plug checks first !
remember to follow analyser proceedures
then the one you lot ususally get wrong. ventilation
remember the fsd checks or to the old lads like geoff

Don't look at me - I'm not a fitter

I do think that you and Drivel should get married, you're perfect for
each other

Maxie, are you into the dating agency business now?

In article ,
says...

I usually do follow up work after job is complete....again i cant say
much more ..

He's a meter reader :-)

"Rob Morley" wrote in message
t...
In article ,
says...

I usually do follow up work after job is complete....again i cant say
much more ..

He's a meter reader :-)

He can read?

Theres no foolin you lot..

Im a meter reader from the Isle of Skye called Donald

In message , gastec
writes

Theres no foolin you lot..

Im a meter reader from the Isle of Skye called Donald


So, you're saying that they let you out on your own

I don't think so ...


--
geoff

"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , gastec
writes

Theres no foolin you lot..

Im a meter reader from the Isle of Skye called Donald


So, you're saying that they let you out on your own

I don't think so ...

Maxie? Gas on the Isle of Skye?

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:07:06 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"raden" wrote in message
...
In message , gastec
writes

Theres no foolin you lot..

Im a meter reader from the Isle of Skye called Donald


So, you're saying that they let you out on your own

I don't think so ...

Maxie? Gas on the Isle of Skye?

Maybe he got his islands mixed up, they have a piped LPG system on
Lewis (in the Stornoway area)



--

So to sum up

Its true to say that Warm Air Units are finished in the UK.
Its also fairly accurate to say that its foolish to instal a system that is concidered OBSOLETE by the MAJORITY of qualified competent gas installers..

Wet systems by far outstrip the efficiency ratings of WAU and also are much safer

In the case of a house fire WAU tend to rapidly spread dangerous smoke/ fumes to all rooms

I could write a book of the safety issues regards WAU..
Anyway this topic is now dead and buried ..thanks for all your messages

THE END

"gastec" wrote in message
...

So to sum up

Firstly, the summing up has to be done by someone with brains. Let's see...

Its true to say that Warm Air Units are finished in the UK.

Not at all. They are gaining popularity because the cooling, heat recovery
and fresh air element.

Its also fairly accurate to say that its foolish to instal a system
that is concidered OBSOLETE by the MAJORITY of qualified competent gas
installers..

No, obsolete by you, who is clearly lacking.

Wet systems by far outstrip the efficiency ratings of WAU

Not so. WAU is more efficient.

and also are much safer

This is a very stupid allegation.

In the case of a house fire WAU tend to rapidly spread dangerous smoke/
fumes to all rooms

Not so. A fire damper can be fitted, which closes in case of fire. It can
close the supply ducts and the extract is left open taking the smoke to
atmosphere.

I could write a book of the safety issues regards WAU..

You wouldn't get more than half a sentence.

Anyway this topic is now dead and buried ..thanks for all your
messages

Thank God for that, as you clearly haven't a clue.

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:22:31 +0000, gastec
wrote:


I could write a book of the safety issues regards WAU..
Anyway this topic is now dead and buried ..thanks for all your
messages

So you just used the combined intellect of uk.d-i-y to research your
book on warm air unit safety? Despite the quality contributions I can
see it's going to be a pretty boring book and will never get into the
amazon top 100,000.


--

"Matt" aka Lord Hall wrote in message
...
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:22:31 +0000, gastec
wrote:


I could write a book of the safety issues regards WAU..
Anyway this topic is now dead and buried ..thanks for all your
messages

So you just used the combined intellect of uk.d-i-y to research your
book on warm air unit safety? Despite the quality contributions I can
see it's going to be a pretty boring book and will never get into the
amazon top 100,000.

It will be a case study for Freudian aficionados.

"Owain" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
It will be a case study for Freudian aficionados.

There's certainly enough material in you for an entire conference.

I did do psychology, and recognise that you are no good at poetry.

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:25:03 +0000, Owain
wrote:

Doctor Drivel wrote:
It will be a case study for Freudian aficionados.

There's certainly enough material in you for an entire conference.

I think you just might have lifted that line from Fawlty Towers :-)


--

"Owain" wrote in message
...
Matt wrote:
Doctor Drivel wrote:
It will be a case study for Freudian aficionados.
There's certainly enough material in you for an entire conference.
I think you just might have lifted that line from Fawlty Towers :-)

nodnodnod

Owain

It is clear this man could never come out with anything original. Sad but
true.

"Owain" wrote in message
...
Doctor Drivel wrote:
I think you just might have lifted that line from Fawlty Towers :-)
nodnodnod
It is clear this man could never come out with anything original. Sad
but
true.

On the contrary; I have been published in The Times, PC Magazine, and
IIRC Wireless World; none of them noted for plagiarism (although I'm
still waiting for the cheque from PC Magazine ...).

I'm not surprise. You should pay them.

Therefore I must have come up with something original on at least three
occasions.

They need columns to fill.