Got a leaflet through my door today advertising Scale Manager 2. Now I
know these electronic descaling devices are disputed whether they work -
I personally don't think they do - but what I'm posting about is the
practically impossible claims they make. I quote:

"For example, a household with a quarter inch (7mm) of limescale using a
kettle 5 times a day, 2 x 30 gallon tanks of domestic hot water a day
and a washing machine 3 times a week. Over a 10 year period could save
a householder in excess of £3,000, assuming an inflation rate of 4% per
annum." (then: Energy consumption figures supplied by East Midlands
electricity 1996).

So - ignoring the inflation bit (which is firstly high, but also I don't
think would make a huge difference to this) - they say that you'll SAVE
just under £300 per year. "costs may be reduced by 37%". So, they're
thinking you spend £1,000 a year (£83 a month) on heating water?

Does this sound right to you (not them saving money - but the figures
stated).

D

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:31:14 +0100, David Hearn wrote:

a household with a quarter inch (7mm) of limescale

The pipes would probably burst!

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In article ,
David Hearn wrote:
Got a leaflet through my door today advertising Scale Manager 2. Now I
know these electronic descaling devices are disputed whether they work -
I personally don't think they do - but what I'm posting about is the
practically impossible claims they make. I quote:

"For example, a household with a quarter inch (7mm) of limescale using a
kettle 5 times a day, 2 x 30 gallon tanks of domestic hot water a day
and a washing machine 3 times a week. Over a 10 year period could save
a householder in excess of £3,000, assuming an inflation rate of 4% per
annum." (then: Energy consumption figures supplied by East Midlands
electricity 1996).

So - ignoring the inflation bit (which is firstly high, but also I don't
think would make a huge difference to this) - they say that you'll SAVE
just under £300 per year. "costs may be reduced by 37%". So, they're
thinking you spend £1,000 a year (£83 a month) on heating water?

Does this sound right to you (not them saving money - but the figures
stated).

They're Drivel figures plucked from the air.

Bit like Calgon ads. Work out the cost of using Calgon every wash. Then
see how long it would take to pay for a new machine by simply banking that
money. Let alone a DIY replacement of the heating element they show. ;-)

Limescale doesn't continue to build up. It reaches a point and then stays
near enough the same thickness.

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On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:31:14 +0100, David Hearn
muttered and said:

Got a leaflet through my door today advertising Scale Manager 2. Now I
know these electronic descaling devices are disputed whether they work -
I personally don't think they do - but what I'm posting about is the
practically impossible claims they make. I quote:

"For example, a household with a quarter inch (7mm) of limescale using a
kettle 5 times a day, 2 x 30 gallon tanks of domestic hot water a day
and a washing machine 3 times a week. Over a 10 year period could save
a householder in excess of £3,000, assuming an inflation rate of 4% per
annum." (then: Energy consumption figures supplied by East Midlands
electricity 1996).

So - ignoring the inflation bit (which is firstly high, but also I don't
think would make a huge difference to this) - they say that you'll SAVE
just under £300 per year. "costs may be reduced by 37%". So, they're
thinking you spend £1,000 a year (£83 a month) on heating water?

Does this sound right to you (not them saving money - but the figures
stated).

D

Send it urgently to Trading Standards. That is so blatent it's fraud.

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:30:57 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Bit like Calgon ads.

Has anyone *ever* had their washing machine fail due to limescale?

I have had burst pipes, knackered bearings and seals, worn out brushes
etc but never a failure that I can attribute to limescale. (I live in
a very hard water area)

sponix

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:40:06 UTC, --s-p-o-n-i-x--
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:30:57 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Bit like Calgon ads.

Has anyone *ever* had their washing machine fail due to limescale?

I have had burst pipes, knackered bearings and seals, worn out brushes
etc but never a failure that I can attribute to limescale. (I live in
a very hard water area)

Agreed. Our Hotpoint is 11 years old and there's never really been a
scale problem. I did clean some off the door seal seating tonight, but
the real leak was the soap drawer-to-tub hose (well, its cable ties).

Still has the original element - so far! We also live in a very hard
water area.
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--s-p-o-n-i-x-- wrote:
Has anyone *ever* had their washing machine fail due to limescale?

I have had burst pipes, knackered bearings and seals, worn out brushes
etc but never a failure that I can attribute to limescale. (I live in
a very hard water area)


Me too - the Medway Towns - right between two thumping great chalk ridges.
Never had a limescale failure either.

Second question - how does that bloke manage to remove the element without
getting his overalls dirty?

Dave

I have recently bought a scale manager 2 and it has made a huge difference to my water, I think the claims made in the above are inflated but the product certainly has made a difference. I am actually saving money on washing products for myself and also for the washing machine. As for the claims made on the website the limescale is easier to clean off taps etc however i'll monitor this and post another update when i have more results from using the product.