I've moved into a new house & need some electrical work done, including
changing some single sockets in skirting boards to doubles.

I've had two electricians round. One said that he thought that
regulations now permitted sockets in skirting boards (after banning
them for a period) and that he'd recommend installing new double
sockets & boxes in the skirting boards.

The other said that it was contrary to regs and he couldn't do anything
to the sockets in the skirting boards, but suggested that a perfectly
reasonable thing for me to do would be to fit Converta sockets to them
(in fact he said that he'd supply them for me).

My questions are - are Converta sockets fairly standard, creditable
things to use or something that only a bodger would touch.

Also is it OK to have them in skirting boards - both in terms of regs
and in terms of what's sensible (not always the same thing).

Michael

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The other said that it was contrary to regs and he couldn't do anything
to the sockets in the skirting boards, but suggested that a perfectly
reasonable thing for me to do would be to fit Converta sockets to them
(in fact he said that he'd supply them for me).

I've never used them (or even seen them!) so I'll let others comment on
that. They are very widely available though, so presumably are kosher.

Do you mean the electrician will supply them for you to fit? Don't do
that, you'll be able to get them far cheaper yourself directly. Eg, item
88126 at www.toolstation.com. (they also do a 1 - 3 version as well
as the 1 - 2, by the way.

Also is it OK to have them in skirting boards - both in terms of regs
and in terms of what's sensible (not always the same thing).

Personally I can't be doing with sockets in skirting boards. They sit
proud of the wall and are likely to get damaged, and/or (eg) prevent
furniture from going back against the skirting board. It wouldn't be
allowed in a new installation because they need to be 450mm off the
floor (for disabled people) but that doesn't apply to you; I don't know
what other rules there may be about skirting boards per se. But I can't
see why it would be any better or worse than it is now if you go ahead
and fit Convertas.

David

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I've moved into a new house & need some electrical work done, including
changing some single sockets in skirting boards to doubles.

I've had two electricians round. One said that he thought that
regulations now permitted sockets in skirting boards

I'm pretty sure he is wrong, but I'd steer clear of anyone who called
themselves an electrician and 'thought' something. His job is to know.

The other said that it was contrary to regs and he couldn't do anything
to the sockets in the skirting boards,

Fair enough.

but suggested that a perfectly
reasonable thing for me to do would be to fit Converta sockets to them
(in fact he said that he'd supply them for me).

My questions are - are Converta sockets fairly standard, creditable
things to use or something that only a bodger would touch.

I've used them where I didn't want to disprupt things. They are fine,
just bit more unsightly as they sit more proud of the surface.

Also is it OK to have them in skirting boards - both in terms of regs
and in terms of what's sensible (not always the same thing).

Not ok to fit new sockets there AIUI, but fine to fit replacement
sockets faceplates. I don't like them - they get in the way, can put a
strain on flexes exiting plugs, and are ugly, but in this situation I
would consider fitting the converta sockets for now and then put in some
new sockets mounted up in the wall when I redecorated the room.
--
Chris French

wrote:
I've moved into a new house & need some electrical work done,
including changing some single sockets in skirting boards to doubles.
[snip]

I've had two electricians round. One said that he thought that
regulations now permitted sockets in skirting boards (after banning
them for a period) and that he'd recommend installing new double
sockets & boxes in the skirting boards.

Hope you havn't taken this bloke on? a sparks needs to keep up with the
regulations for his own sake and his clients.

In article .com,
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Also is it OK to have them in skirting boards - both in terms of regs
and in terms of what's sensible (not always the same thing).

The regs don't ban sockets on skirting boards.
They require them to be positioned such that flex entry
to the plugs isn't strained, which would rule out fitting
on some skirting boards (unless installed upside down;-).

Part M has guidelines on socket positioning for access by
disabled people, and that wouldn't like such positioning
very much. However, it applies only to new buildings and
modifications to buildings already conforming with Part M,
so it does not apply in your case. This might be what one
of your electricians was mistakenly thinking of though.

--
Andrew Gabriel

Bear in mind, that Converta sockets are fused at 13A for the total
loading of all three sockets. A conventional double will allow 26A total
loading.

Regards
Capitol

The regs don't ban sockets on skirting boards.
They require them to be positioned such that flex entry
to the plugs isn't strained, which would rule out fitting
on some skirting boards (unless installed upside down;-).

Other than looking a bit odd, would this be allowed!?

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 23:20:36 +0100, Capitol
wrote:

Bear in mind, that Converta sockets are fused at 13A for the total
loading of all three sockets. A conventional double will allow 26A total
loading.

You sure about that? A while ago I temporarily converted a single to a
double (when I redecorated I sunk it properly) with something that was a
plastic box with a metal backplate. It screwed onto the box in place of
the single socket, then you wired a double into it.

Aren't Convertas just like that - a frame to allow you to put a 2 or 3
surface mounted over a single flush box?
--
On-line canal route planner: http://www.canalplan.org.uk

(Waterways World site of the month, April 2001)

Nick Atty wrote:

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 23:20:36 +0100, Capitol
wrote:


Bear in mind, that Converta sockets are fused at 13A for the total
loading of all three sockets. A conventional double will allow 26A total
loading.


You sure about that? A while ago I temporarily converted a single to a
double (when I redecorated I sunk it properly) with something that was a
plastic box with a metal backplate. It screwed onto the box in place of
the single socket, then you wired a double into it.

Aren't Convertas just like that - a frame to allow you to put a 2 or 3
surface mounted over a single flush box?

If I've understood what your electricians proposed correctly, then, no.
Converta sockets fit directly into the existing wall box and are
available as 2 way and 3 way but have their own 13A fuses, the same as a
good 4 x 13A extension block. See Toolstation 89978.

Regards
Capitol