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keefers
 
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If any old tiles are loose, then your knew ones are going to be loose too
because of that. Any tiles that meet a door might well sit proud of the
doorframe. You *might* need longer faceplate screws for any outlets/sockets
on the tiles.

Ditch the old tiles. they're easily removed with a bolster or similar, or a
large flat screwdriver at a push.

Disclaimer: I'm not a tiler. But I've done lots of tiling.


"Rob" wrote in message
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Hi

I'm thinking of having my kitchen updated. All the exposed walls are tiled
but I hate the colour and the design on them so I want to re-tile the
walls.

Ive been told its best to tile on top of the old as they provide the
perfect surface. Ive also been told that old tiles must be removed first.

So now I'm confused.

I'd be grateful for your views on which is best and why.

Thanks

Rob



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In article , keefers
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Disclaimer: I'm not a tiler. But I've done lots of tiling.


Perhaps you might like a little reading?

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

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Perhaps I've been posting this way on usenet since 1991

"Andy Luckman (AJL Electronics)" wrote in message
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In article , keefers
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Disclaimer: I'm not a tiler. But I've done lots of tiling.


Perhaps you might like a little reading?

http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?How_to_post

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keefers wrote:
Perhaps I've been

(wrongly)
posting this way on usenet since 1991


Wow! Irritating people & getting killfiled for 14 years! What was
your posting ID then?
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So where do you get the "wrongly" from then. There ain't no right or wrong.
A bunch of "rules" made up by some arbitrary bunch doesn't pass for right or
wrong. If there was a "right" way of posting, news posting apps wouldn't let
you do it the "wrong" way.

Personally, I much prefer the way I do it. Obviously, otherwise I wouldn't
do it this way. I'm not alone either. As i recall, these were "the rules"
before the arbitrary bunch came along. I think it's easier to read. I think
it's easier to follow. I don't have to spend half my life wearing out my
finger scrolling my mouse wheel up and down. I don't have to read down any
further than the last post.

If you're uppity about the "rules", then find yourself guilty of posting
off-topic!



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keefers wrote:
Perhaps I've been

(wrongly)
posting this way on usenet since 1991


Wow! Irritating people & getting killfiled for 14 years! What was
your posting ID then?





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So where do you get the "wrongly" from then. There ain't no right or
wrong.
A bunch of "rules" made up by some arbitrary bunch doesn't pass for right

or
wrong.


I'm absolutely amazed that you can have been on Usenet for so long and still
crosspost. It is in every newbie guide. The fact that Microsoft produces bad
programs that don't comply with the rules is hardly news.

Context posting is not arbitrary. It has been the standard for decades.

Christian.


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I'm absolutely amazed that you can have been on Usenet for so long and
still
crosspost.


I meant toppost, not crosspost!

Christian.


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I didn't cross-post, I posted to uk.d-i-y. I don't cross-post, and to my
recollection have never done so. I was a newbie when there was no such
definition as a newbie, 'cos everyone was a newbie. Cross-posting was
frowned upon right from the start.

Bottom or top posting isn't a standard, it's a guideline. There are
certainly plenty guidelines which suggest bottom-posting, but I think
they're crap.


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keefers wrote:
posting this way on usenet since 1991


What was your posting ID in 1991, then??
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What was your posting ID in 1991, then??
I don't have to justify myself to you or anyone. I can't even remember all
the id's I've used, and even if I did, I couldn't be bothered replying with
it. It might have been the same as this. I don't know and I don't care. You
obviously don't believe me. I don't care about that either.

I'm bored with this now.




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keefers wrote:
So where do you get the "wrongly" from then. There ain't no right or wrong.
A bunch of "rules" made up by some arbitrary bunch doesn't pass for right or
wrong.


Depends who you consider an arbitrary bunch. Who _do_ you consider the
arbitrary bunch in this case?

If there was a "right" way of posting, news posting apps wouldn't let
you do it the "wrong" way.


Not true. A word-processor will let you write a badly-formatted letter.
A drill will let you drill your eye out. Applications are just tools.

Personally, I much prefer the way I do it. Obviously, otherwise I wouldn't
do it this way. I'm not alone either.


The fact that a lot of people do it doesn't make it correct. Your
argument is full of logical flaws.

As i recall, these were "the rules"
before the arbitrary bunch came along. I think it's easier to read. I think
it's easier to follow. I don't have to spend half my life wearing out my
finger scrolling my mouse wheel up and down. I don't have to read down any
further than the last post.


Perhaps, if you didn't use outdated, non-standards compliant
news-reading software, you wouldn't make life difficult for yourself by
being complelled to use the scroll wheel and for others by top-posting.
One thing that I have learnt since reading this group is that you have
to have the right tool for the job.

Antony
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"antgel" wrote in message
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Depends who you consider an arbitrary bunch. Who _do_ you consider the
arbitrary bunch in this case?


Anyone who writes "standards" without the authority to do so

A drill will let you drill your eye out. Applications are just tools.


Fair point.

The fact that a lot of people do it doesn't make it correct. Your
argument is full of logical flaws.


The fact that someone takes it upon themself/ves to write a "standard"
doesn't make it correct either

One thing that I have learnt since reading this group is that you have
to have the right tool for the job.


Couldn't agree more. But sometimes it's worth doing a bodge if it's quick,
and a one line top post might well be such a bodge but if it does the job
then so what.


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In article , keefers
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Perhaps I've been posting this way on usenet since 1991


Perhaps you will hear lots of:

*plonk*

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