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keefers
 
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I didn't cross-post, I posted to uk.d-i-y. I don't cross-post, and to my
recollection have never done so. I was a newbie when there was no such
definition as a newbie, 'cos everyone was a newbie. Cross-posting was
frowned upon right from the start.

Bottom or top posting isn't a standard, it's a guideline. There are
certainly plenty guidelines which suggest bottom-posting, but I think
they're crap.