Hello,

I'm trying to replace the old swirly wool carpet on my
hallway/stairs/landing as it is
now wearing on the treads, it's aeons old and still is ok except on the
stairs. Wool
seems to be the best fibre for carpets.

I wanted to go to a restrained pindot pattern ( grid of dots spaced at about
6" ) in wool,
but have found out that for technological reasons, pindot wool carpets are
only
produced using woven Axminster or Wilton techniques, hence we're talking
£30+/sq.metre which is a little steep for me. I could go to plain wool, but
was really
looking for at least a minimal pattern for interest and to hide dirt.

I'm thrown back to looking at nylon carpets. I've heard they're a lot better
than they
used to be, and was pleased to find that they don't all have that shiny
synthetic look.
All the same I am worried about pile-crushing and wear, and wondered if
anyone
has had nylon carpets installed in heavy wear areas ( particularly stairs )
and is
pleased with their performance and appearance?

cheers,

Andy.

andrewpreece wrote:
Hello,

I'm thrown back to looking at nylon carpets.

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt CRACK !! (static discharge ahoy)



RT

andrewpreece wrote:

has had nylon carpets installed in heavy wear areas ( particularly stairs )
and is
pleased with their performance and appearance?

I am pretty sure the stair carpet we have is a blend with at least some
synthetic on a hessian back. Probably polyester rather than nylon. Been
down 5 years or so, still looks pristine.

The key seems to be use a very good underlay since that makes the carpet
last much longer, and also keeps the noise from foot falls on the stairs
down.

--
Cheers,

John.

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"andrewpreece" wrote in
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I'm thrown back to looking at nylon carpets. I've heard they're a lot
better than they
used to be, and was pleased to find that they don't all have that
shiny synthetic look.
All the same I am worried about pile-crushing and wear, and wondered
if anyone
has had nylon carpets installed in heavy wear areas ( particularly
stairs ) and is
pleased with their performance and appearance?

There are other fibres! We recently got a substantially polypropylene
carpet - to my feet, much nicer than nylon.

--
Rod

"andrewpreece" wrote in message
...
Hello,


I'm thrown back to looking at nylon carpets. I've heard they're a lot
better
than they
used to be, and was pleased to find that they don't all have that shiny
synthetic look.

Ah, the heady days of Cyril Lord! The bloomin' carpet we bought from him
never wore out!

Mary

"[news]" wrote in message
...
andrewpreece wrote:
Hello,

I'm thrown back to looking at nylon carpets.

bzzzzzzzzzzzzzt CRACK !! (static discharge ahoy)



RT


The chap in the shop assured me that that was all a thing of the past now!
Apparently conductive fibres are woven in with the main body of the carpet,
so that's one thing I'm not worried about,

Andy.

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
andrewpreece wrote:

has had nylon carpets installed in heavy wear areas ( particularly
stairs )
and is
pleased with their performance and appearance?

I am pretty sure the stair carpet we have is a blend with at least some
synthetic on a hessian back. Probably polyester rather than nylon. Been
down 5 years or so, still looks pristine.

The key seems to be use a very good underlay since that makes the carpet
last much longer, and also keeps the noise from foot falls on the stairs
down.

--
Cheers,

John.

Aaah, but blended with what? I've been told that 80% wool: 20% nylon is
actually
better performing than pure wool, harder wearing, but you can't get 80:20
blends
in pindot patterns unless you go for the expensive Axminster/Wilton woven
carpets..

Andy.

"andrewpreece" wrote in message
...

"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
andrewpreece wrote:

has had nylon carpets installed in heavy wear areas ( particularly
stairs )
and is
pleased with their performance and appearance?

I am pretty sure the stair carpet we have is a blend with at least some
synthetic on a hessian back. Probably polyester rather than nylon. Been
down 5 years or so, still looks pristine.

The key seems to be use a very good underlay since that makes the carpet
last much longer, and also keeps the noise from foot falls on the stairs
down.

--
Cheers,

John.

Aaah, but blended with what? I've been told that 80% wool: 20% nylon is
actually
better performing than pure wool, harder wearing, but you can't get 80:20
blends
in pindot patterns unless you go for the expensive Axminster/Wilton woven
carpets..

Wilton always was expensive but I'm surprised to read that Axminster is ...
Axminster was used for more than five colours.

Mary

Andy.

In message , Mary
Fisher writes

"andrewpreece" wrote in message
...
Hello,


I'm thrown back to looking at nylon carpets. I've heard they're a lot
better
than they
used to be, and was pleased to find that they don't all have that shiny
synthetic look.

Ah, the heady days of Cyril Lord! The bloomin' carpet we bought from him
never wore out!

Luxury, eh ?

--
geoff

andrewpreece wrote:

Aaah, but blended with what? I've been told that 80% wool: 20% nylon is
actually
better performing than pure wool, harder wearing, but you can't get 80:20
blends

I don't remember the exact composition but I do know the carpet cost
about the same as the underlay (i.e. about 5/sq m) so that ought to
eliminate a good many of the more exotic options!



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Cheers,

John.

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andrewpreece wrote:
I'm trying to replace the old swirly wool carpet on my
hallway/stairs/landing as it is now wearing on the treads,
it's aeons old and still is ok except on the stairs. Wool
seems to be the best fibre for carpets.

What you want is an 80:20 mix of wool/(nylon|polypropylene),
which you can get at less than £20/sqm if you look around.
You want at least a heavy domestic grade, maybe a commercial
grade if you can get it at the price. Use a quality felt
underlay, and make sure the carpet is fitted with the pile
in the right direction, and a fold where possible so that
you can move it when wear becomes detectable.

Nylon or polyprop are OK, but probably won't quite last so
long, and don't like hot things or strong sunlight much at
all.

Try to teach people in your household to go up and down
stairs without twisting their feet on the carpet, as that
really wears it fast - especially on quarter landings,
or the bottom few steps.

"raden" wrote in message
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In message , Mary Fisher
writes

"andrewpreece" wrote in message
...
Hello,


I'm thrown back to looking at nylon carpets. I've heard they're a lot
better
than they
used to be, and was pleased to find that they don't all have that shiny
synthetic look.

Ah, the heady days of Cyril Lord! The bloomin' carpet we bought from him
never wore out!

Luxury, eh ?

You're not kidding. We paid (I think) £15 on the never for a 2 x 3yd
'square' over forty years ago and discarded it very many years later only
because the corners were curling and the backing separating. I reckon it
would still be going strong. It had a lot of hammer too, in our first house
we only had one room downstairs, here it was used in the
dining/play/workroom - with a lot of children. It was plain maroon and
showed not a scrap of wear- although the sheen did go and the pile flattened
under furniture legs. Abit of a bugger to vacuum though, stuff stuck to it-
but we never experienced any static.

Mary

--
geoff

"Chris Bacon" wrote in message
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andrewpreece wrote:
I'm trying to replace the old swirly wool carpet on my
hallway/stairs/landing as it is now wearing on the treads,
it's aeons old and still is ok except on the stairs. Wool
seems to be the best fibre for carpets.

What you want is an 80:20 mix of wool/(nylon|polypropylene),
which you can get at less than £20/sqm if you look around.
You want at least a heavy domestic grade, maybe a commercial
grade if you can get it at the price. Use a quality felt
underlay, and make sure the carpet is fitted with the pile
in the right direction, and a fold where possible so that
you can move it when wear becomes detectable.

Nylon or polyprop are OK, but probably won't quite last so
long, and don't like hot things or strong sunlight much at
all.

Try to teach people in your household to go up and down
stairs without twisting their feet on the carpet, as that
really wears it fast - especially on quarter landings,
or the bottom few steps.

You're right there, that's just where it has gone through!

Andy.

I wanted to go to a restrained pindot pattern ( grid of dots spaced at
about
6" ) in wool,
but have found out that for technological reasons, pindot wool carpets are
only
produced using woven Axminster or Wilton techniques, hence we're talking
£30+/sq.metre which is a little steep for me.

Who told you that? Tufted carpets can be produced in any pattern you want,
the process is actually more flexible and capable of detail than either
Axminster or Wilton methods.

Dave