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WTB: 20' ISO container or 24' semi trailer for storage, Sacramento/Marysvillearea
I've been hunting for either a 20' ISO shipping container or 24 semi
trailer for storage, and not having much luck. I've done countless google searches, bought Big Truck & Equipment Trader, and local classifieds rags. Called and emailed a bunch of outfits and I get NO reply. Only one place I called actually answered the phone and wanted $800 to deliver one out of Oakland, for a total of somewhat over $2500. I just might go with that, but thought I'd ask if anyone has, or knows someone that has either of these items for sale. I'm in Grass Valley and the closer the better, but I figure Sac to Marysville/Yuba City is more likely. Leaning more toward the trailer as they generally sell significantly cheaper than the ISO boxes and would make our next move a lot easier. Cash in hand, looking for a seller.... Thanks, Jon |
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Jon Anderson wrote: I've been hunting for either a 20' ISO shipping container or 24 semi trailer for storage, and not having much luck. I've done countless google searches, bought Big Truck & Equipment Trader, and local classifieds rags. Called and emailed a bunch of outfits and I get NO reply. Only one place I called actually answered the phone and wanted $800 to deliver one out of Oakland, for a total of somewhat over $2500. I just might go with that, but thought I'd ask if anyone has, or knows someone that has either of these items for sale. I'm in Grass Valley and the closer the better, but I figure Sac to Marysville/Yuba City is more likely. Leaning more toward the trailer as they generally sell significantly cheaper than the ISO boxes and would make our next move a lot easier. Cash in hand, looking for a seller.... Thanks, Jon Try "Surplus City" on Highway 70 in Oroville. They sell/rent containers and trailers - and damn near anything else you might name - and their prices are at least in the realm of reasonable. (dunno about what tailers/containers will run, but I'd expect the price to be reasonable based on what my buys have cost) To get there from GV, head for Marysville. Assuming you come across the way I did when I made my one visit to GV, once you hit Marysville, turn right onto 70 and head north on it for about 20 minutes. Overall, about a 40-60 minute drive one way, depending on traffic. You'll see the place on the left just outside the Oroville city limits - You can't miss it - It's the only place in town I know about that has a Pershing missile (or so I've been told by someone who ought to know A WHOLE LOT more about the topic than I do) parked out front. To get into it from 70, you have to sail on by to Pacific Heights Road, right at the big "Welcome to Oroville" sign, hang a left, then backtrack down Pacific Heights about half a mile or so. Nope, I don't work for 'em. Just wander through and occasionally pick up some sort of "interesting gadget" from 'em. Last time, it was a gizmo that looked like it might have had something to do with boat or airplane steering - Don't really know, since any markings it might have once had on it were gone, but it had a nice little precision gear-train in it that worked wonderfully for a project of mine. -- Don Bruder - - New Email policy in effect as of Feb. 21, 2004. Short form: I'm trashing EVERY E-mail that doesn't contain a password in the subject unless it comes from a "whitelisted" (pre-approved by me) address. See http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd/main/contact.html for full details. |
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I've been hunting for either a 20' ISO shipping container or 24 semi trailer for storage, and not having much luck. I've done countless google searches, bought Big Truck & Equipment Trader, and local classifieds rags. Called and emailed a bunch of outfits and I get NO reply. Check Ebay, there are several there http://search.ebay.com/shipping-cont...rftogZ1QQfrppZ 50QQfromZR10QQcatrefZC5QQfclZ3QQsorefinesearchZ1QQ catrefZC6QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ 1QQpriceZ1QQsaprcloZ50QQsadisZ200QQfposZ45424QQfso pZ1QQfsooZ1QQcoactionZco mpareQQcopagenumZ1QQcoentrypageZsearch |
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Steve,
These are some of the folks that don't answer email. Shipping is generally extra and most are selling 20' containers for as much or more as I can get one delivered already, and I can't get the twits to answer my requests for delivery costs. I have seen some outstanding deals on ebay for 50' plus trailers, but those would extend half way up my driveway, and I know SWMBO will have something to say about that... Jon |
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Don,
Thanks, I'd forgotten about those folks. I got into it with them once over a Condor motorcycle they were selling. They kept insisting it was a Swedish bike, and I insisted it was a Ducati built under contract. (I'm right). I never really looked around their yard, but I do recall the missile! I'll call and see what they have to offer. Jon |
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http://www.mylittlesalesman.com/home.asp Dry van
I've been hunting for either a 20' ISO shipping container or 24 semi trailer for storage, and not having much luck. I've done countless google searches, bought Big Truck & Equipment Trader, and local classifieds rags. Called and emailed a bunch of outfits and I get NO reply. Only one place I called actually answered the phone and wanted $800 to deliver one out of Oakland, for a total of somewhat over $2500. I just might go with that, but thought I'd ask if anyone has, or knows someone that has either of these items for sale. I'm in Grass Valley and the closer the better, but I figure Sac to Marysville/Yuba City is more likely. Leaning more toward the trailer as they generally sell significantly cheaper than the ISO boxes and would make our next move a lot easier. Cash in hand, looking for a seller.... Thanks, Jon |
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Mike,
Thanks much for that link! Found something that looks interesting. Jon |
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 23:27:40 GMT, Jon Anderson wrote:
Steve, These are some of the folks that don't answer email. Shipping is generally extra and most are selling 20' containers for as much or more as I can get one delivered already, and I can't get the twits to answer my requests for delivery costs. So, how much _are_ these things? Sure would be quicker than building a storage shed. |
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Dave,
I have found a cheaper source than what I first posted. Conex Containers quoted me $2100 delivered to Grass Valley from Oakland. I talked to Matt, phone is 800-216-1830. Surplus City, just mentioned in another post, is closer, but they get a couple hundred more for the container and delivery is $70/hour. Your distance from the source has a lot to do with final price. A container is really ideal for me, and I just might go with this. One reason I balked at containers at first was the cost of moving. First place to give me a quote said another $800 to come back and move it when I move. But I've since learned that a local tow company can move a 20' unit on their rollback, for $150/hr. That would run maybe $300 max for a local move, and I'd sure shop around come the day... If I buy a trailer, when we move I can load it up and eliminate half a dozen Uhaul trips G. But the trailer has to back in leaving the door in the back yard and a 2' wide access path, kind of a pain in the ass. Complicating things, a trailer can be had a lot cheaper than the container. I've seen 50' trailers on ebay for $700, damn cheap storage if one has the space. BTW, there's a guy selling a CD on ebay that covers using containers for temporary and permanent storage/building use. It's all stuff you can learn for yourself of course, but if you value your time, it's worth the $8 or so. Jon |
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:29:38 GMT, Jon Anderson
wrote: I've been hunting for either a 20' ISO shipping container or 24 semi trailer for storage, and not having much luck. I've done countless google searches, bought Big Truck & Equipment Trader, and local classifieds rags. Called and emailed a bunch of outfits and I get NO reply. Only one place I called actually answered the phone and wanted $800 to deliver one out of Oakland, for a total of somewhat over $2500. I just might go with that, but thought I'd ask if anyone has, or knows someone that has either of these items for sale. I'm in Grass Valley and the closer the better, but I figure Sac to Marysville/Yuba City is more likely. Leaning more toward the trailer as they generally sell significantly cheaper than the ISO boxes and would make our next move a lot easier. Cash in hand, looking for a seller.... Thanks, Jon Jon....call 714-547-5628 and ask for Jeff. He knows where all the auctions are for these containers. He claims that the 20' go on average for about $500 and the 40s for around a grand. He owns Dimensions Materials Handling and is in the business. Mention Gunner referred you for a 10% discount on free advice. 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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:44:30 GMT, Jon Anderson wrote:
Dave, I have found a cheaper source than what I first posted. Conex Containers quoted me $2100 delivered to Grass Valley from Oakland. I talked to Matt, phone is 800-216-1830. Surplus City, just mentioned in another post, is closer, but they get a couple hundred more for the container and delivery is $70/hour. Your distance from the source has a lot to do with final price. Bad news: I'm in Wisconsin. Good news: I can see the Port of Milwaukee from here. So maybe viable anyway. A container is really ideal for me, and I just might go with this. One reason I balked at containers at first was the cost of moving. First place to give me a quote said another $800 to come back and move it when I move. But I've since learned that a local tow company can move a 20' unit on their rollback, for $150/hr. That would run maybe $300 max for a local move, and I'd sure shop around come the day... So, build a flat surface and just plunk it down, or do I need to put it on concrete or gravel? Even if it just sits on a flat spot of gravel, it'd be a quick way to get a weather-tight storage room on the quick. Could even probably be dressed up to look decent? BTW, there's a guy selling a CD on ebay that covers using containers for temporary and permanent storage/building use. It's all stuff you can learn for yourself of course, but if you value your time, it's worth the $8 or so. Thanks Jon, I'll check that out. Dave Hinz |
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So, build a flat surface and just plunk it down, or do I need to put it
on concrete or gravel? Even if it just sits on a flat spot of gravel, it'd be a quick way to get a weather-tight storage room on the quick. Could even probably be dressed up to look decent? Send the wife down to Garden Ridge with a blank check ? G |
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I live in Eastern NC, and 40 foot seaworthy containers can be had for
$1,800. Rent on one here is $80 a month. $75 local delivery. I did not go this route, due to the tilting required for moving the containers. Not good for tall machine tools. They also sell trailers for $800 to $!,400, for shoddy to decent condition. They move individual trailers for $75 an hour. Since I have a forklift, I bought a 40 foot trailer from a friend who runs an industrial salvage yard for $700. It has a full diamond plate floor added, along with 4 foot tall smooth sheets on edge along the sidewalls, with 12 inch wide diamond plate layered over that at floor level, all welded, for fork protection. It's wired with conduit for a receptacle and four overhead lights, pigtail cord attachment. Good set of recap tires. A superwrecker was used to move the trailer with a fifth wheel attachment that the big boys use on these wreckers. This gets around the DOT trailer lights, brakes, and tag requirements here. A 15 mile move cost me $75, I loaded it out, then one of his employees who lives in the neighborhood moved it loaded about four blocks to my house for a $40 tip. When I move to the new house, it'll cost me about $80 an hour, garage leave to return time. My entire shop is packed in there, and it's been a very good investment. RJ "Jon Anderson" wrote in message ... Dave, I have found a cheaper source than what I first posted. Conex Containers quoted me $2100 delivered to Grass Valley from Oakland. I talked to Matt, phone is 800-216-1830. Surplus City, just mentioned in another post, is closer, but they get a couple hundred more for the container and delivery is $70/hour. Your distance from the source has a lot to do with final price. A container is really ideal for me, and I just might go with this. One reason I balked at containers at first was the cost of moving. First place to give me a quote said another $800 to come back and move it when I move. But I've since learned that a local tow company can move a 20' unit on their rollback, for $150/hr. That would run maybe $300 max for a local move, and I'd sure shop around come the day... If I buy a trailer, when we move I can load it up and eliminate half a dozen Uhaul trips G. But the trailer has to back in leaving the door in the back yard and a 2' wide access path, kind of a pain in the ass. Complicating things, a trailer can be had a lot cheaper than the container. I've seen 50' trailers on ebay for $700, damn cheap storage if one has the space. BTW, there's a guy selling a CD on ebay that covers using containers for temporary and permanent storage/building use. It's all stuff you can learn for yourself of course, but if you value your time, it's worth the $8 or so. Jon |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:31:25 -0500, Backlash wrote:
I live in Eastern NC, and 40 foot seaworthy containers can be had for $1,800. Rent on one here is $80 a month. $75 local delivery. I did not go this route, due to the tilting required for moving the containers. Not good for tall machine tools. They also sell trailers for $800 to $!,400, for shoddy to decent condition. OK, so a semi trailer is cheaper, _and_ more portable than a shipping container, am I getting this right? So, should I just buy a trailer or two for shop space? Other than the height issue of getting things in there, is there a drawback? |
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Thanks, Jon Jon....call 714-547-5628 and ask for Jeff. He knows where all the auctions are for these containers. He claims that the 20' go on average for about $500 and the 40s for around a grand. He owns Dimensions Materials Handling and is in the business. Mention Gunner referred you for a 10% discount on free advice. Gunner This is about right on the left coast. Lots of steel... Can you get 2 VW buses in a 20'er? Or how much left over from 3 in a 40'er ??? |
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Gunner,
Thanks, will check that out! For $500, I could cover some hefty hauling charges and still come out ahead. Jon |
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Dave Hinz wrote:
So, build a flat surface and just plunk it down, or do I need to put it on concrete or gravel? Even if it just sits on a flat spot of gravel, it'd be a quick way to get a weather-tight storage room on the quick. Could even probably be dressed up to look decent? That's about it. I'll be setting one on asphalt, there's a slight grade. Once it's where I want it, I'll jack up the low side and shim. The CD shows many set on pilings, I'd thing anything other than bare dirt would be fine, how level you want it will determine how much work you put into it. I'm going to check out Gunner's contact. If that falls through, I'll go hunt around Sacramento, there's port there. GPS and my laptop ought to help me hunt around, there's got to be -someone- down there selling them. If you're near a port, that'd be a great place to start looking. If Gunner's tip on auction prices is correct, there's a pretty darn decent markup on these puppies... Jon |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:54:42 GMT, the inscrutable Jon Anderson
spake: Gunner, Thanks, will check that out! For $500, I could cover some hefty hauling charges and still come out ahead. Y'know, if Gunner was smart, he'd have a dozen delivered to his back yard and put all of his stuff in them, selling each full box as a package (with or without kittens) since our shops are already full. Speaking of which: Gunner, check your email for a nice pic of a kitten napping on a tan line. (Yowza!) ================================================== ====== TANSTAAFL: There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. http://diversify.com Gourmet Web Applications ========================== |
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A guy near me has a 20 footer that he painted white, and it blends right
into the white vinyl siding neighborhood. RJ "Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 16:44:30 GMT, Jon Anderson wrote: Dave, I have found a cheaper source than what I first posted. Conex Containers quoted me $2100 delivered to Grass Valley from Oakland. I talked to Matt, phone is 800-216-1830. Surplus City, just mentioned in another post, is closer, but they get a couple hundred more for the container and delivery is $70/hour. Your distance from the source has a lot to do with final price. Bad news: I'm in Wisconsin. Good news: I can see the Port of Milwaukee from here. So maybe viable anyway. A container is really ideal for me, and I just might go with this. One reason I balked at containers at first was the cost of moving. First place to give me a quote said another $800 to come back and move it when I move. But I've since learned that a local tow company can move a 20' unit on their rollback, for $150/hr. That would run maybe $300 max for a local move, and I'd sure shop around come the day... So, build a flat surface and just plunk it down, or do I need to put it on concrete or gravel? Even if it just sits on a flat spot of gravel, it'd be a quick way to get a weather-tight storage room on the quick. Could even probably be dressed up to look decent? BTW, there's a guy selling a CD on ebay that covers using containers for temporary and permanent storage/building use. It's all stuff you can learn for yourself of course, but if you value your time, it's worth the $8 or so. Thanks Jon, I'll check that out. Dave Hinz |
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As far as shop space, I went to a friend's house who did fab work on race
cars, roll cages and such. He had a 24 foot 2 car garage with a plasma cutter, welder, bender, and a four post lift in there. I asked him where his other fab tools were. He pointed to a rear corner walk door and said "In there". He opened the door, and at first, I thought I was looking down a long tunnel. Turned out that he had bought a trailer for a $1000, removed the road gear and sold it back to the dealer for $500, and had placed the front of the trailer on supports up to the rear of his shop, cutting a walk door to match the one in his shop. Shelves for parts and such went all the way down the left side, and on the right side was a metal rack, loaded through the rear doors at delivery time. He pulled stock off the rack through his cut-off saw, then through his coping rig on his drill press, then out into the main shop to be welded. Other tools like sanders and such were lined up along the rest of the wall, used while heading out the door with the cut parts. It was very efficient in method. I had not toticed the "trailer" when I came up due to some tall redtip shrubs planted strategically in the line of sight. Another guy in the area took two containers, placed them about 20 feet apart on a concrete pad. He then built a roof using pre-made trusses over the whole setup, which gave him a central drive-through shelter for his wheeled equipment and such. One container room contains a workshop. The other (get this) contains a re-created 50's era diner, right down to the checkered tablecloths. That's where his family holds their gatherings and cookouts. He ended up with a nice operation and a heck of a conversation piece. RJ "Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:31:25 -0500, Backlash wrote: I live in Eastern NC, and 40 foot seaworthy containers can be had for $1,800. Rent on one here is $80 a month. $75 local delivery. I did not go this route, due to the tilting required for moving the containers. Not good for tall machine tools. They also sell trailers for $800 to $!,400, for shoddy to decent condition. OK, so a semi trailer is cheaper, _and_ more portable than a shipping container, am I getting this right? So, should I just buy a trailer or two for shop space? Other than the height issue of getting things in there, is there a drawback? |
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If you buy an old refrigerated unit, it will already be insulated. They make
wonderful mobile workshops, and some have a side walk door in them. A through-the wall heat pump like used in motels will take care of heating and cooling. Also, if a cord and plug attachment is used to power up, and zoning allows you to have a unit on your property, you can possibly bypass building permits and such, if that matters to you. Compressors and such can be hung underneath on framework to keep them dry and out of the way. A hydraulic scissor lift can be set into the floor into a well tub if you want to work on motorcycles, mowers, and other things needing a lift. Of course, a rather long access ramp will be needed, unless you install a lift tail, as some trailers have for residential delivery. Overall, it's a very economical and quick way to get a tight, comfortable workshop. RJ "Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:31:25 -0500, Backlash wrote: I live in Eastern NC, and 40 foot seaworthy containers can be had for $1,800. Rent on one here is $80 a month. $75 local delivery. I did not go this route, due to the tilting required for moving the containers. Not good for tall machine tools. They also sell trailers for $800 to $!,400, for shoddy to decent condition. OK, so a semi trailer is cheaper, _and_ more portable than a shipping container, am I getting this right? So, should I just buy a trailer or two for shop space? Other than the height issue of getting things in there, is there a drawback? |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:42:16 -0500, the inscrutable "Backlash"
spake: A guy near me has a 20 footer that he painted white, and it blends right into the white vinyl siding neighborhood. My buddy, Terry, used a 20-footer as his small but workable print shop. He had the Multi and that humongous guillotine in there. It worked well and was lockable. 'Twas HELL in summer, though, even with the wooden "insulation" on all walls, floor, and ceiling, so he cut a hole and added an A/C unit. ================================================== ====== TANSTAAFL: There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. http://diversify.com Gourmet Web Applications ========================== |
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:50:27 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 23:54:42 GMT, the inscrutable Jon Anderson spake: Gunner, Thanks, will check that out! For $500, I could cover some hefty hauling charges and still come out ahead. Y'know, if Gunner was smart, he'd have a dozen delivered to his back yard and put all of his stuff in them, selling each full box as a package (with or without kittens) since our shops are already full. G Speaking of which: Gunner, check your email for a nice pic of a kitten napping on a tan line. (Yowza!) Havent seen it yet. Resend to my gunnerasch at myway dot com addy Gunner ================================================= ======= TANSTAAFL: There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. http://diversify.com Gourmet Web Applications ========================== " We have all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare...Thanks to AOL and WebTv, we know this is not possible." |
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 16:49:19 GMT, the inscrutable Gunner
spake: I said: Speaking of which: Gunner, check your email for a nice pic of a kitten napping on a tan line. (Yowza!) Havent seen it yet. Resend to my gunnerasch at myway dot com addy Oops, it appears that I was also napping. Email sent. ---------------------------------------------------- Thesaurus: Ancient reptile with excellent vocabulary http://diversify.com Dynamic Website Applications ================================================== == |
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