The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious! Now I'm thinking what
can be so hard about this? Is it something mental? How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?Some drivers were told to go left and instead
went into a right turn and stayed in it. Funny. Is it best
if
the driver were given status reports on current position
or should the passenger give reports on the next future
move? If I were driving I would put my hands at ten and two
and make small corrections returning the wheel to straight
ahead till the next report. Could be challenging for sure!
This stunt shows us how much we depend on visual input, eih?
Phil

In article , Phil Kangas says...

...How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?

Probably the passenger should scream less loudly, the
closer the driver is to teh desired 'flight path...'

Jim


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Fear factor is a waste.
Half of the things they do are either part of a normal days work for
many people or native cuisine somewhere.
Grab a few submarine helmsmen if you wanna drive blindfolded, if you
spill your beer, you lose!

"Phil Kangas" wrote in message
...
The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious! Now I'm thinking what
can be so hard about this? Is it something mental? How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?Some drivers were told to go left and instead
went into a right turn and stayed in it. Funny. Is it best
if
the driver were given status reports on current position
or should the passenger give reports on the next future
move? If I were driving I would put my hands at ten and two
and make small corrections returning the wheel to straight
ahead till the next report. Could be challenging for sure!
This stunt shows us how much we depend on visual input, eih?

The BBC2 TopGear TV programme recently had a blind driver driving round
their test track with instructions from one of the presenters. He actually
got round faster than a couple of sighted celebrity drivers.

Someone I used to know (now deceased) holds the world speed record for a
motorcycle driven by a blind person.

Leon

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:17:19 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:

The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious! Now I'm thinking what
can be so hard about this? Is it something mental? How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?Some drivers were told to go left and instead
went into a right turn and stayed in it. Funny. Is it best
if
the driver were given status reports on current position
or should the passenger give reports on the next future
move? If I were driving I would put my hands at ten and two
and make small corrections returning the wheel to straight
ahead till the next report. Could be challenging for sure!
This stunt shows us how much we depend on visual input, eih?
Phil

Might just be bandwidth. Words take too much time. Imagine something
that would emit one tone if you were off to the left, a different tone
if you were off to the right, with volume or warble rate proportional
to error magnitude.

If it were female, it would screech if you're following too close....

Don Foreman wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:17:19 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:


The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious! Now I'm thinking what
can be so hard about this? Is it something mental? How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?Some drivers were told to go left and instead
went into a right turn and stayed in it. Funny. Is it best
if
the driver were given status reports on current position
or should the passenger give reports on the next future
move? If I were driving I would put my hands at ten and two
and make small corrections returning the wheel to straight
ahead till the next report. Could be challenging for sure!
This stunt shows us how much we depend on visual input, eih?
Phil


Might just be bandwidth. Words take too much time. Imagine something
that would emit one tone if you were off to the left, a different tone
if you were off to the right, with volume or warble rate proportional
to error magnitude.

You are describing, almost exactly, an early instrument
flying technique. Flying down the center of the beam,
the pilot hears a steady tone. Drift right or left and
he hears a Morse "r" or "a" character in the headset.

I flew left seat in a helicopter once and gave
the pilot verbal directions to get to a destination.
"right 15 degrees", "left 10 degrees", got there
with very little deviation.


If it were female, it would screech if you're following too close....

In article ,
"Phil Kangas" wrote:

.......How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation

I would think the directions should give you what your eyes would have.
Don't tell the driver what to do, tell hin where he is. Bearing and
range to the target, as "11 O'clock at 100 feet".

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Phil Kangas wrote:

The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious! Now I'm thinking what
can be so hard about this? Is it something mental? How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?Some drivers were told to go left and instead
went into a right turn and stayed in it. Funny. Is it best
if
the driver were given status reports on current position
or should the passenger give reports on the next future
move? If I were driving I would put my hands at ten and two
and make small corrections returning the wheel to straight
ahead till the next report. Could be challenging for sure!
This stunt shows us how much we depend on visual input, eih?
Phil



They probably cut the teams that do well...

Steve

Thats "a" or "n" --- not "r"

Jim

Jim Stewart wrote:
Don Foreman wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:17:19 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:


The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious! Now I'm thinking what
can be so hard about this? Is it something mental? How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?Some drivers were told to go left and instead
went into a right turn and stayed in it. Funny. Is it best
if
the driver were given status reports on current position
or should the passenger give reports on the next future
move? If I were driving I would put my hands at ten and two
and make small corrections returning the wheel to straight
ahead till the next report. Could be challenging for sure!
This stunt shows us how much we depend on visual input, eih?
Phil



Might just be bandwidth. Words take too much time. Imagine something
that would emit one tone if you were off to the left, a different tone
if you were off to the right, with volume or warble rate proportional
to error magnitude.


You are describing, almost exactly, an early instrument
flying technique. Flying down the center of the beam,
the pilot hears a steady tone. Drift right or left and
he hears a Morse "r" or "a" character in the headset.

I flew left seat in a helicopter once and gave
the pilot verbal directions to get to a destination.
"right 15 degrees", "left 10 degrees", got there
with very little deviation.


If it were female, it would screech if you're following too close....

Once upon a time the old timer across the road from us used to drive
down to the local gin mill for a nip or two.

His scruffy little dog would lean out the passenger side window and as
he drove by you could hear Shorty barking out commands. A little left
Jim. OK hold it there, now a touch right. And so on. Both Jim and
Shorty have gone to that big tavern in the sky but we still chuckle
about the memory

Errol Groff



On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:17:19 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:

The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious! Now I'm thinking what
can be so hard about this? Is it something mental? How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?Some drivers were told to go left and instead
went into a right turn and stayed in it. Funny. Is it best
if
the driver were given status reports on current position
or should the passenger give reports on the next future
move? If I were driving I would put my hands at ten and two
and make small corrections returning the wheel to straight
ahead till the next report. Could be challenging for sure!
This stunt shows us how much we depend on visual input, eih?
Phil

Jim Stewart wrote:

You are describing, almost exactly, an early instrument
flying technique. Flying down the center of the beam,
the pilot hears a steady tone. Drift right or left and
he hears a Morse "r" or "a" character in the headset.

Not quite. a = dot dash
the opposite side was n
n = dash dot
r = dot dash dot

...lew... ( former W3SLX )

Phil Kangas wrote:

The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious!

Hell, in the 70's a buddy and I used to do something similar. Whoever
was driving would recline the seat all the way back, the other would
give directions. Funny as hell to see the reactions of other drivers
when they realized the passenger had no hands on the wheel. We mostly
cruised mall parking lots and low traffic side streets at night. Sure
helps a lot if you really trust the other person!
We used to do lots of stupid stunts like this, and we're both still
around to laugh about it.

Jon

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 11:44:22 -0600, Don Foreman
wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 08:17:19 -0500, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:

The other evening on the TV show fear factor one of the
stunts involved driving a car blindfolded with the passenger
giving directions on which way to turn and whether to speed
up or slow down with the intent of driving up a ramp onto a
flatbed trailer! All of the drivers had a very difficult
time taking
these directions and it was hilarious! Now I'm thinking what
can be so hard about this? Is it something mental? How
would you prefer to have directions given to you in that
situation?Some drivers were told to go left and instead
went into a right turn and stayed in it. Funny. Is it best
if
the driver were given status reports on current position
or should the passenger give reports on the next future
move? If I were driving I would put my hands at ten and two
and make small corrections returning the wheel to straight
ahead till the next report. Could be challenging for sure!
This stunt shows us how much we depend on visual input, eih?
Phil

Might just be bandwidth. Words take too much time. Imagine something
that would emit one tone if you were off to the left, a different tone
if you were off to the right, with volume or warble rate proportional
to error magnitude.

If it were female, it would screech if you're following too close....

They do something similar with blind skiers and blind golfers.

Gunner

"Gunner, you are the same ridiculous liberal f--k you ever where."
Scipio

Blind golfers ?

Hmmm, does that mean that Gerald Ford was blind ?


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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 14:58:08 -0800, Fuhh wrote:

Blind golfers ?

Hmmm, does that mean that Gerald Ford was blind ?

LOL... could be...

http://www.blindgolf.com/
http://www.blindgolf.org.au/

Google has lots of hits on the subject.

Gunner

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demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
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