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"Tool kit" for new employee--ideas?
I'll have a new co-worker in a couple of weeks and being the "old man"
of the shop I'd like to collect a "kit" of tools (shop supplied tools, not personal) for him including things like drills, lathe bit blanks, etc. I have other ideas but want to see what ideas you guys come up with. Uh-Oh Is this considered trolling?  Thanks.-- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine |
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This kit will embody the entire philosophy of your working relationship. If
you do this wrong, he will be scarred for life and every job he works on will be colored by your choices. That said: Allen wrenches, an 8" adjustable wrench and a 10 oz. ball-peen hammer. But the most important tool: A small, shirt-pocket notebook and a pencil. Teach him to make lists!!! Please trust me on this. This is the most important lesson I ever learned...and I learned it here from these guys and gals. "randy replogle" wrote in message news:j6o_c.308$j62.127@trnddc04... I'll have a new co-worker in a couple of weeks and being the "old man" of the shop I'd like to collect a "kit" of tools (shop supplied tools, not personal) for him including things like drills, lathe bit blanks, etc. I have other ideas but want to see what ideas you guys come up with. Uh-Oh Is this considered trolling? Thanks.-- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine |
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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:59:49 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: This kit will embody the entire philosophy of your working relationship. If you do this wrong, he will be scarred for life and every job he works on will be colored by your choices. That said: Allen wrenches, an 8" adjustable wrench and a 10 oz. ball-peen hammer. But the most important tool: A small, shirt-pocket notebook and a pencil. Teach him to make lists!!! Please trust me on this. This is the most important lesson I ever learned...and I learned it here from these guys and gals. Hi, Just to make sense, making lists such as for example? Cheers, Wizard |
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Jason D. wrote: On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:59:49 GMT, "Tom Gardner" wrote: This kit will embody the entire philosophy of your working relationship. If you do this wrong, he will be scarred for life and every job he works on will be colored by your choices. That said: Allen wrenches, an 8" adjustable wrench and a 10 oz. ball-peen hammer. But the most important tool: A small, shirt-pocket notebook and a pencil. Teach him to make lists!!! Please trust me on this. This is the most important lesson I ever learned...and I learned it here from these guys and gals. Hi, Just to make sense, making lists such as for example? Cheers, Wizard "To do" lists, but more importantly "Don't do" lists, like "Don't borrow the boss' pet micrometer and let him see you using it for a C-clamp. Jeff -- My name is Jeff Wisnia and I approved this message.... (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public schools" |
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Just to make sense, making lists such as for example?
Wizard Lists of stuff that one would forget or delay because it isn't on the list. |
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"Tom Gardner" wrote in
: This kit will embody the entire philosophy of your working relationship. If you do this wrong, he will be scarred for life and every job he works on will be colored by your choices. That said: Allen wrenches, an 8" adjustable wrench and a 10 oz. ball-peen hammer. But the most important tool: A small, shirt-pocket notebook and a pencil. Teach him to make lists!!! Please trust me on this. This is the most important lesson I ever learned...and I learned it here from these guys and gals. "randy replogle" wrote in message news:j6o_c.308$j62.127@trnddc04... I'll have a new co-worker in a couple of weeks and being the "old man" of the shop I'd like to collect a "kit" of tools (shop supplied tools, not personal) for him including things like drills, lathe bit blanks, etc. I have other ideas but want to see what ideas you guys come up with. Uh-Oh Is this considered trolling? Thanks.-- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine Excellent advice, but please include a dead-blow hammer. Great for seating parts in a vice or fixture. -- Anthony You can't 'idiot proof' anything....every time you try, they just make better idiots. Remove sp to reply via email |
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On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 19:59:49 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: A small, shirt-pocket notebook and a pencil. And if you want him to make lists that he ought to keep, make that a Moleskine (yes, with the "e") notebook. I run several notebooks simultaneously - a reporter's notebook for disposable "shopping lists" and a Moleskine for the permanent stuff. Oh, and a copy of Zeus' tables too - maybe Machinery's Handbook if you're feeling generous. Your _own_ safety glasses and ears make some people less squeamish about using the "pool" sets. -- Smert' spamionam |
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How about a cleaning brush, some lubricants, a company shirt or hat or
coffee mug, a phone list of contacts and what they do. Give him the name of the gal who really makes thing happen. Are we to assume that this person is being hired to work in a machine shop, or is it some other kind of shop. lg no neat sig line "randy replogle" wrote in message news:j6o_c.308$j62.127@trnddc04... I'll have a new co-worker in a couple of weeks and being the "old man" of the shop I'd like to collect a "kit" of tools (shop supplied tools, not personal) for him including things like drills, lathe bit blanks, etc. I have other ideas but want to see what ideas you guys come up with. Uh-Oh Is this considered trolling? Thanks.-- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine |
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A cheap digital caliper from HF. They're simply fantastic.
"randy replogle" wrote in message news:j6o_c.308$j62.127@trnddc04... I'll have a new co-worker in a couple of weeks and being the "old man" of the shop I'd like to collect a "kit" of tools (shop supplied tools, not personal) for him including things like drills, lathe bit blanks, etc. I have other ideas but want to see what ideas you guys come up with. Uh-Oh Is this considered trolling? Thanks.-- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine |
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Jeff Wisnia wrote:
SNIP "To do" lists, but more importantly "Don't do" lists, like "Don't borrow the boss' pet micrometer and let him see you using it for a C-clamp. Jeff It's OK if the boss doesn't see you? G -- Steve Walker (remove wallet to reply) |
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Tom Gardner wrote: A small, shirt-pocket notebook and a pencil. Teach him to make lists!!! Please trust me on this. This is the most important lesson I ever learned...and I learned it here from these guys and gals. I've been doing this myself lately. A lot of ideas pass through my mind during the day and if I don't write them down immediately they're gone forever or at least 'til the next time I need that tap that we just ran out of. Thanks. -- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine |
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larry g wrote: How about a cleaning brush, some lubricants, a company shirt or hat or coffee mug, a phone list of contacts and what they do. Give him the name of the gal who really makes thing happen. Are we to assume that this person is being hired to work in a machine shop, or is it some other kind of shop. lg no neat sig line "randy replogle" wrote in message news:j6o_c.308$j62.127@trnddc04... I'll have a new co-worker in a couple of weeks and being the "old man" of the shop I'd like to collect a "kit" of tools (shop supplied tools, not personal) for him including things like drills, lathe bit blanks, etc. I have other ideas but want to see what ideas you guys come up with. Uh-Oh Is this considered trolling? Thanks.-- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine Yes, it's a machine shop, check the URL in my sig. It hasn't been updated, though. "The gal who makes things happen?" I think he's married Just kidding! Thanks.-- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine |
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Tom Gardner wrote: This kit will embody the entire philosophy of your working relationship. If you do this wrong, he will be scarred for life and every job he works on will be colored by your choices. Please elaborate. -- Randy Replogle (Central Indiana) Email address is legit http://www.chem.purdue.edu/machine |
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 15:48:14 GMT, randy replogle
wrote: Yes, it's a machine shop, check the URL in my sig. It hasn't been updated, though. "The gal who makes things happen?" I think he's married Just kidding! Thanks.Actually, this is the young female clerk who looks after the time sheets and makes out the checks. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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"Jason D." wrote in message ... Just to make sense, making lists such as for example? Well, a good one to start off with: every time you have to borrow a tool, you write it down in you notebook. After the next paycheck, when you go tool shopping, you have a better idea exactly _what_ tools you need to be looking at. Other stuff to scribble down: Measurements. Compound calculations Hours worked Machine settings I'm sure there's other things as well. |
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Speaking of notebooks. I carry a 3 x 5 notebook made by J. Darling Corp.,
Tacoma, WA, 253-922-5000 called "Rite in the Rain" It has polyethylene covers and special treated paper that is water proof. The covers absolutely do not tear off, and you can write on the paper while it is soaking wet. They hold up extremely well riding around in my hip pocket all the time. I date each one when I start using it. I then date it again when it is full. I don't throw them away. In the front of each pad is my phone number list. Each time I start a new notebook I transfer the list, removing numbers I no longer need and alphabetizing the random numbers that accumulated from the last list. This was very useful recently when I ran over my cell phone with my van while out on the road! I find that the process of updating note books also refreshes my own memory and insures that I get things done that I have promised. I have them going back more than ten years now. My habit is to NEVER write anything down somewhere else until I've written it down in my notebook first. This way I never lose phone numbers or other important data. I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. Gary H. Lucas "Wayne Bengtsson" wrote in message news  "Jason D." wrote in message ... Just to make sense, making lists such as for example? Well, a good one to start off with: every time you have to borrow a tool, you write it down in you notebook. After the next paycheck, when you go tool shopping, you have a better idea exactly _what_ tools you need to be looking at. Other stuff to scribble down: Measurements. Compound calculations Hours worked Machine settings I'm sure there's other things as well. |
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Gary H. Lucas wrote:
This was very useful recently when I ran over my cell phone with my van while out on the road! Gary H. Lucas I know cell phones can be very annoying but just turn the thing off, you don't have to run over it. G John |
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Jeff Wisnia wrote: "Don't borrow the boss' pet micrometer and let him see you using it for a C-clamp." Jeff Now how the hell are you gonna clamp anything with any kind of precision if you don't have a calibrated C-clamp??? Geez!!!! |
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I use the cheap Mead or similar. I've been doing that since my first
management job. I've only started keeping the filled ones for the last 5 years since I have been in business for myself. I've got the full nerd set up. Left shirt pocket: Scale in the scale pocket, flashlight, screwdriver, sharpie, pen, pencil. In that order. Same pocket behind the clippable stuff is the notebook and a Besley drill/tap chart. Right shirt pocket: Business cards, laser pointer. "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... Speaking of notebooks. I carry a 3 x 5 notebook made by J. Darling Corp., Tacoma, WA, 253-922-5000 called "Rite in the Rain" It has polyethylene covers and special treated paper that is water proof. The covers absolutely do not tear off, and you can write on the paper while it is soaking wet. They hold up extremely well riding around in my hip pocket all the time. I date each one when I start using it. I then date it again when it is full. I don't throw them away. In the front of each pad is my phone number list. Each time I start a new notebook I transfer the list, removing numbers I no longer need and alphabetizing the random numbers that accumulated from the last list. This was very useful recently when I ran over my cell phone with my van while out on the road! I find that the process of updating note books also refreshes my own memory and insures that I get things done that I have promised. I have them going back more than ten years now. My habit is to NEVER write anything down somewhere else until I've written it down in my notebook first. This way I never lose phone numbers or other important data. I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. Gary H. Lucas "Wayne Bengtsson" wrote in message news "Jason D." wrote in message ... Just to make sense, making lists such as for example? Well, a good one to start off with: every time you have to borrow a tool, you write it down in you notebook. After the next paycheck, when you go tool shopping, you have a better idea exactly _what_ tools you need to be looking at. Other stuff to scribble down: Measurements. Compound calculations Hours worked Machine settings I'm sure there's other things as well. |
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"Bill Roberto" wrote in message ink.net... I use the cheap Mead or similar. I've been doing that since my first management job. I've only started keeping the filled ones for the last 5 years since I have been in business for myself. I've got the full nerd set up. Left shirt pocket: Scale in the scale pocket, flashlight, screwdriver, sharpie, pen, pencil. In that order. Same pocket behind the clippable stuff is the notebook and a Besley drill/tap chart. Right shirt pocket: Business cards, laser pointer. Do you have a pen-knife in your pocket? |
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"Kath" wrote in message
... Do you have a pen-knife in your pocket? Yes. Since I was 10. 'Almost lost a nice bone-handled Case at Newark airport last year, because I forgot it was there. The feds had just taken over security and they were decent guys, as well as being the only real pros I've ever seen at airport security in the US. They directed me to a place that gave away free envelopes, pointed me to a stamp machine, and then one of them escorted me down the walkway to a mail box, where I dropped it in the mail to myself. Ed Huntress |
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"Kath" wrote in message ... "Bill Roberto" wrote in message ink.net... I use the cheap Mead or similar. I've been doing that since my first management job. I've only started keeping the filled ones for the last 5 years since I have been in business for myself. I've got the full nerd set up. Left shirt pocket: Scale in the scale pocket, flashlight, screwdriver, sharpie, pen, pencil. In that order. Same pocket behind the clippable stuff is the notebook and a Besley drill/tap chart. Right shirt pocket: Business cards, laser pointer. Do you have a pen-knife in your pocket? But of course. It is a little Buck I've had over 15 years. It has been lost and found several times. It keeps finding me. I've cut just about everything with it and it still keeps a good edge. I had an Oldtimer but when it got lost it stayed lost. |
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Hey Guys and Gals,
Just in case anybody here is interested: I got an email this morning that says there will be an important meeting of the club on Wednesday September 8, 2004, at 7:30PM in Room T120 of Macomb Community College, South Campus, in Warren, Michigan. The College is just west of Groesbeck Hwy at 12 Mile, and is bounded by 12 Mile, Hayes Rd, Martin Rd, and Bunert Rd., and the T-120 Room is in the most south-westerly building. Parking is within 100 feet of the building. Visitors welcome. Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario |
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I used a Rite in the Rain in an WET underground mine. They are
indispensable. One Caveat: Make sure you use an appropriate writing tool. It needs to be waterproof ink or a good pencil as well, or you just end up with a bunch of smears on a page. The RitR's are available at most office supply places, at least here in the woods. tHAT "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... Speaking of notebooks. I carry a 3 x 5 notebook made by J. Darling Corp., Tacoma, WA, 253-922-5000 called "Rite in the Rain" It has polyethylene covers and special treated paper that is water proof. The covers absolutely do not tear off, and you can write on the paper while it is soaking wet. They hold up extremely well riding around in my hip pocket all the time. I date each one when I start using it. I then date it again when it is full. I don't throw them away. In the front of each pad is my phone number list. Each time I start a new notebook I transfer the list, removing numbers I no longer need and alphabetizing the random numbers that accumulated from the last list. This was very useful recently when I ran over my cell phone with my van while out on the road! I find that the process of updating note books also refreshes my own memory and insures that I get things done that I have promised. I have them going back more than ten years now. My habit is to NEVER write anything down somewhere else until I've written it down in my notebook first. This way I never lose phone numbers or other important data. I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. Gary H. Lucas "Wayne Bengtsson" wrote in message news "Jason D." wrote in message ... Just to make sense, making lists such as for example? Well, a good one to start off with: every time you have to borrow a tool, you write it down in you notebook. After the next paycheck, when you go tool shopping, you have a better idea exactly _what_ tools you need to be looking at. Other stuff to scribble down: Measurements. Compound calculations Hours worked Machine settings I'm sure there's other things as well. |
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"Bill Roberto" wrote in message ink.net... I use the cheap Mead or similar. I've been doing that since my first management job. I've only started keeping the filled ones for the last 5 years since I have been in business for myself. I've got the full nerd set up. Left shirt pocket: Scale in the scale pocket, flashlight, screwdriver, sharpie, pen, pencil. In that order. Same pocket behind the clippable stuff is the notebook and a Besley drill/tap chart. Right shirt pocket: Business cards, laser pointer. I got tired of the cover falling off the cheap ones, and pages falling out too. I'm very rough on them. I carry a double ended sharpie, to go along with the waterproof paper. I also carry a Leatherman Pulse. I carried a knife since I was a kid and about ten years ago a guy showed me a Leatherman. It's slightly larger and heavier than a swiss army knife, but I really find the needle nose, wire cutters, and diamond hone very useful. Gary H. Lucas |
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I prefer the Gerber Multi-Tool with attachments. I think they're much
better made. I keep my Leatherman in the truck. tHAT "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:MPs%c.2911$2H5.2466@trndny07... "Bill Roberto" wrote in message ink.net... I use the cheap Mead or similar. I've been doing that since my first management job. I've only started keeping the filled ones for the last 5 years since I have been in business for myself. I've got the full nerd set up. Left shirt pocket: Scale in the scale pocket, flashlight, screwdriver, sharpie, pen, pencil. In that order. Same pocket behind the clippable stuff is the notebook and a Besley drill/tap chart. Right shirt pocket: Business cards, laser pointer. I got tired of the cover falling off the cheap ones, and pages falling out too. I'm very rough on them. I carry a double ended sharpie, to go along with the waterproof paper. I also carry a Leatherman Pulse. I carried a knife since I was a kid and about ten years ago a guy showed me a Leatherman. It's slightly larger and heavier than a swiss army knife, but I really find the needle nose, wire cutters, and diamond hone very useful. Gary H. Lucas |
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"Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. I pay other people to carry the notebook for me. -- SVL |
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"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message ... "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. I pay other people to carry the notebook for me. -- SVL Do you also pay someone to follow you around all day holding your testicles in a warmed spoon? |
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tHAT wrote:
I prefer the Gerber Multi-Tool with attachments. I think they're much better made. I keep my Leatherman in the truck. tHAT Snip How anybody can pick up a Leatherman after squeezing a Gerber is beyond me. ;-) -- Later, Charlie The American Dairy Goat Association has competed with this promotion line: "If God had wanted us to milk cows, He would have given us four hands." |
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 12:39:27 GMT, "Bill Roberto"
wrote: "PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message ... "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. I pay other people to carry the notebook for me. -- SVL Do you also pay someone to follow you around all day holding your testicles in a warmed spoon? Hummmmm..how do you keep a pair of soup ladles warm all day and still walk? Sigh..it did sound fun though it migh chap my thighs a bit. Next time I do a job in West Hollywood Ill have to ask. They know all about that sort of stuff.... Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke |
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"Bill Roberto" wrote in message link.net... "PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message ... "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. I pay other people to carry the notebook for me. -- SVL Do you also pay someone to follow you around all day holding your testicles in a warmed spoon? Yes. She works under the table too. -- SVL |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message news  "Kath" wrote in message ... Do you have a pen-knife in your pocket? Yes. Since I was 10. 'Almost lost a nice bone-handled Case at Newark airport last year, because I forgot it was there. The feds had just taken over security and they were decent guys, as well as being the only real pros I've ever seen at airport security in the US. They directed me to a place that gave away free envelopes, pointed me to a stamp machine, and then one of them escorted me down the walkway to a mail box, where I dropped it in the mail to myself. Ed Huntress |
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Yep! I had the same experience with my Leatherman in the 'Vegas airport.
The mailing service people were very helpful. Bob Swinney "Ed Huntress" wrote in message news "Kath" wrote in message ... Do you have a pen-knife in your pocket? Yes. Since I was 10. 'Almost lost a nice bone-handled Case at Newark airport last year, because I forgot it was there. The feds had just taken over security and they were decent guys, as well as being the only real pros I've ever seen at airport security in the US. They directed me to a place that gave away free envelopes, pointed me to a stamp machine, and then one of them escorted me down the walkway to a mail box, where I dropped it in the mail to myself. Ed Huntress |
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"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message ...
"Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. I pay other people to carry the notebook for me. Then I'd guess that you never worked for a major US corporation like Raytheon (or Kodak), where even Dennis Picard (the CEO) carried his own notebook which consisted of file cards! In fact, at Raytheon it was reqired of everyone above the working level of a senior engineer as a defense against memory lapses or errors. You wrote down what a subordinate had told you, and then confronted him with his own words when he failed to perform. You would trust your personal notebook in the hands of someone else. Strange! Harry C. |
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"Harry Conover" wrote in message om... "PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message ... "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. I pay other people to carry the notebook for me. Then I'd guess that you never worked for a major US corporation like Raytheon (or Kodak), where even Dennis Picard (the CEO) carried his own notebook which consisted of file cards! In fact, at Raytheon it was reqired of everyone above the working level of a senior engineer as a defense against memory lapses or errors. You wrote down what a subordinate had told you, and then confronted him with his own words when he failed to perform. You would trust your personal notebook in the hands of someone else. Strange! I worked for Boeing many years, but not as a manager--today I have employees take notes. -- SVL |
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"PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message ... "Bill Roberto" wrote in message link.net... "PrecisionMachinisT" wrote in message ... "Gary H. Lucas" wrote in message news:nm1%c.5819$wF4.2705@trndny09... I consider a notebook a sign of a good manager. Managers that don't carry and use a notebook are for the most part poor managers. I pay other people to carry the notebook for me. -- SVL Do you also pay someone to follow you around all day holding your testicles in a warmed spoon? Yes. She works under the table too. -- SVL Nice set up SV. Multitasking at it's finest. |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show "Kath"
wrote back on Tue, 7 Sep 2004 00:03:26 -0400 in rec.crafts.metalworking : "Bill Roberto" wrote in message link.net... I use the cheap Mead or similar. I've been doing that since my first management job. I've only started keeping the filled ones for the last 5 years since I have been in business for myself. I've got the full nerd set up. Left shirt pocket: Scale in the scale pocket, flashlight, screwdriver, sharpie, pen, pencil. In that order. Same pocket behind the clippable stuff is the notebook and a Besley drill/tap chart. Right shirt pocket: Business cards, laser pointer. Do you have a pen-knife in your pocket? I've a clip knife in the right pocket, a leatherman on the belt. I also have the pens and mechanical pencils (and the 6" scales) in a Kennametal Pocket protector. I are a machinist Nerd! tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show "tHAT"
wrote back on Tue, 7 Sep 2004 23:21:10 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking : I prefer the Gerber Multi-Tool with attachments. I think they're much better made. I keep my Leatherman in the truck. I've one of each (friend works for Gerber). It's nice, but a bit "clunky" for me. Of course, I was using a Leatherman daily for about three years at work, and its been over ten years. One gets used to the way things work. But now I have a new belt pouch, which has a nice holder for such things. So I now have the Gerber on the left (with the cellphone), and the Leatherman on the right. It is kind of funny when you whip one or the other out and "fix" something. Have tool, will travel. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." |
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gerald Miller
wrote back on Sun, 05 Sep 2004 16:38:10 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking : Yes, it's a machine shop, check the URL in my sig. It hasn't been updated, though. "The gal who makes things happen?" I think he's married Just kidding! Thanks.Actually, this is the young female clerk who looks after the time sheets and makes out the checks. In every outfit, there is a formal organization, and an informal organization. Twice bless is the company which has the two organizations the same. The formal organization is obvious, who has what job title, and what official responsibility. The informal organization is the one which you knows that to get a [fill in the blank], you talk to Person Y, not the person on the chart. I saw this years ago during an internship. The liaison guy couldn't get us the Company hats, but we did get hats from one of the guys we knew who also worked there. It still is a good policy to be nice to the office staff, they can help you, or just "work to rule". But that is often something which is entirely up to the individual. tschus pyotr -- pyotr filipivich. as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with." |
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