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On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 20:31:28 -0400, wrote:

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On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 19:41:55 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
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On 3/15/2016 2:39 PM, unk wrote:
There's a cheap gizmo that purports to let you fill a small propane tank
from your bigger bbq tank.

Are these legit?


I made one years ago by soldering spare connectors together. Depending
upon how much propane you use in a torch, the $18 cost might take a
while to recover.

As Dan said, refilled tanks tend to leak & need to have torches
permanently attached.

The small tanks are labeled "Not for refill" - if that matters to you.

The propane only flows from the large tank to the small one if the
pressure in the large one is greater than it is in the small one. (And
the large tank must be upside down.) Since the propane is liquid in the
tanks, this means that the temperature of the large one must be higher
than the small one.

I'm not sure if OPD tanks will work upside down - anybody know for sure?

Bob

I generaly rely on one of the almost empty BBQ tanks I buy for $0.50
and a 4 foot adapter hose that usually costs me a buck whenever I need
to use one or more "turbo" torches. Last fall I lucked out and bought
a full five pound bottle for a dollar - when it is empty it will
become my regulated surge tank for an air brush or whatever I need at
the moment.
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Where are you finding the "pucks" (or "curling rocks" for a
buck???? Hardly ever see any of them any more.

This one came from an elderly couple's yard sale selling off thier
camping stuff.
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On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:56:52 -0700, Jon Danniken
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On 03/15/2016 07:08 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
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On Tuesday, March 15, 2016 at 8:23:53 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:

I'm not sure if OPD tanks will work upside down - anybody know for sure?

Bob

They will not work upside down.

I think some will work and others will not.

Dan


The reason the change over to OPD tanks..was to shut off the fuel if
the tank was in any position other than vertical. This to prevent
fires if the tank got kicked over. There is a float in the bottom of
the new three cornered valve that shuts off the fuel if the tank is
other than vertical. Which makes the capacity of the 5 gallon tank
slightly smaller..I've heard they are 4.5 gallons..but..who knows?


OPD is "Overflow Prevention Device", which was an improvement on the old
system by which a tube extended down from the valve to limit the amount
of liquid that could be filled into the tank. Unfortunately, some of
the tubes would slip out (hot/cold cycles), leading to the tanks getting
filled to the top.


No ****? You are right. On the Survival groups and the local
media...it was claimed to be in the event the tank turned over and it
would stop the flow. Walmart made quite a deal out of it..and was
trading filled tanks for the old one and $20. I swapped out 6 of
them. I just bothered looking it up.

Ill be double damned. Thanks!!



I have no trouble refilling my 1# propane tank from the upside-down
larger OPD-equipped tank, maybe some of them use a different mechanism,
I dunno.

Jon

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What's the make/model/url, please. I've been looking for something like
that and all I have found are weed burners. Something like a plumber's
torch would be ideal.


I have a Goss torch that might be your "plumber's torch":

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg1vhk1e61...wqd9j.jpg?dl=0

It has an adjustable regulator & can put out a lot of heat. They are
ridiculously expensive, but I got mine at the dump (!).

Bob


Nice! I picked up either a TurboTorch or a Goss 3 weeks ago for $20
and it has only one tip. Its a big flammer IRRC..gonna need to pick up
something for pinpoint work. Ill have to go look and see what it is. I
brought it home, tested it and put in on a shelf.

Btw..anybody need any Acty/air torches..I have several
heads/burners..just add a hose and regulator. Cheap!

I have (3) of the little MC size acyt bottles, and have found them
to be just handy as hell for sweating stuff that needs shrink fits or
brazing that needs more heat than propane/air delivers.

Hell..Id swap a burner for a weed burner head (propane).

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On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:40:49 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
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On 3/15/2016 11:40 PM, User Bp wrote:
What's the make/model/url, please. I've been looking for something like
that and all I have found are weed burners. Something like a plumber's
torch would be ideal.

I have a Goss torch that might be your "plumber's torch":

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg1vhk1e61...wqd9j.jpg?dl=0

It has an adjustable regulator & can put out a lot of heat. They are
ridiculously expensive, but I got mine at the dump (!).

Bob


Nice! I picked up either a TurboTorch or a Goss 3 weeks ago for $20
and it has only one tip. Its a big flammer IRRC..gonna need to pick up
something for pinpoint work. Ill have to go look and see what it is. I
brought it home, tested it and put in on a shelf.

Btw..anybody need any Acty/air torches..I have several
heads/burners..just add a hose and regulator. Cheap!

I have (3) of the little MC size acyt bottles, and have found them
to be just handy as hell for sweating stuff that needs shrink fits or
brazing that needs more heat than propane/air delivers.

Hell..Id swap a burner for a weed burner head (propane).

Gunner


Those "plumbers torches" are actually pretty good as a heat source for
forging small stuff. I have one mounted over a couple fire bricks to
handle quick jobs when the forge would be overkill. Weed burners are
also handy for that use.


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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:40:49 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
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On 3/15/2016 11:40 PM, User Bp wrote:
What's the make/model/url, please. I've been looking for something like
that and all I have found are weed burners. Something like a plumber's
torch would be ideal.
I have a Goss torch that might be your "plumber's torch":

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg1vhk1e61...wqd9j.jpg?dl=0

It has an adjustable regulator & can put out a lot of heat. They are
ridiculously expensive, but I got mine at the dump (!).

Bob


Nice! I picked up either a TurboTorch or a Goss 3 weeks ago for $20
and it has only one tip. Its a big flammer IRRC..gonna need to pick up
something for pinpoint work. Ill have to go look and see what it is. I
brought it home, tested it and put in on a shelf.

Btw..anybody need any Acty/air torches..I have several
heads/burners..just add a hose and regulator. Cheap!

I have (3) of the little MC size acyt bottles, and have found them
to be just handy as hell for sweating stuff that needs shrink fits or
brazing that needs more heat than propane/air delivers.

Hell..Id swap a burner for a weed burner head (propane).

Gunner


Those "plumbers torches" are actually pretty good as a heat source for
forging small stuff. I have one mounted over a couple fire bricks to
handle quick jobs when the forge would be overkill. Weed burners are
also handy for that use.

The "weed burner" works good for heating the pot for boiling corn, or
mussels, etc. When we do lunch out at the hangar, we often clamp the
weedburner in a vice and place it under the pot which is set on the
forks of the pallet forklift . Works great.


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On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 03:00:35 -0000 (UTC), User Bp
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 3/15/2016 11:40 PM, User Bp wrote:
What's the make/model/url, please. I've been looking for something like
that and all I have found are weed burners. Something like a plumber's
torch would be ideal.


I have a Goss torch that might be your "plumber's torch":

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg1vhk1e61...wqd9j.jpg?dl=0

It has an adjustable regulator & can put out a lot of heat. They are
ridiculously expensive, but I got mine at the dump (!).


Well, that's what I had in mind, and yes, it's ridiculously expensive.
That must be some dump you have 8-)


How about sixty bucks, delivered?
http://tinyurl.com/z6l4bop


Thanks for writing, now I know what to look for.

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On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 03:00:35 -0000 (UTC), User Bp
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 3/15/2016 11:40 PM, User Bp wrote:
What's the make/model/url, please. I've been looking for something like
that and all I have found are weed burners. Something like a plumber's
torch would be ideal.

I have a Goss torch that might be your "plumber's torch":

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg1vhk1e61...wqd9j.jpg?dl=0

It has an adjustable regulator & can put out a lot of heat. They are
ridiculously expensive, but I got mine at the dump (!).


Well, that's what I had in mind, and yes, it's ridiculously expensive.
That must be some dump you have 8-)


How about sixty bucks, delivered?
http://tinyurl.com/z6l4bop


VERY fair price!



Thanks for writing, now I know what to look for.

bob prohaska

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On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 05:23:07 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 20:55:52 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 03:00:35 -0000 (UTC), User Bp
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:
On 3/15/2016 11:40 PM, User Bp wrote:
What's the make/model/url, please. I've been looking for something like
that and all I have found are weed burners. Something like a plumber's
torch would be ideal.

I have a Goss torch that might be your "plumber's torch":

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zg1vhk1e61...wqd9j.jpg?dl=0

It has an adjustable regulator & can put out a lot of heat. They are
ridiculously expensive, but I got mine at the dump (!).

Well, that's what I had in mind, and yes, it's ridiculously expensive.
That must be some dump you have 8-)


How about sixty bucks, delivered?
http://tinyurl.com/z6l4bop


VERY fair price!


That's why I always shop around. That most certainly won't be Goss
quality, but how many people actually need a 100-year torch? I'm
still beating the living **** out of a HF 5" (5.5 opening, 5 width)
vise and anvil over 40 years later, so cheap tools can last, too.

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How about sixty bucks, delivered?
http://tinyurl.com/z6l4bop

If I needed one _right_now_ I'd be tempted. If I find
a Goss for $60, I'll buy it and wait for the need.

Thanks for posting!

bob prohaska

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