This Vise Grips has 1 jaw with 2 smooth surfaces at 60 degrees to each
other and a smooth opposing surface:
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-VISE-GRI.../dp/B00004SBBD

In theory it seems like it would be very good for holding rounded off
hex heads/nuts. But is it really that much better than plain 'ole
toothed jaws Vise Grips? And enough better to justify a dedicated tool?

I guess its real advantage is getting a _tight_ grip on hex without
marring any surfaces. Face it - hardly any wrench fits a hex
head/nut/fitting without a little slop. Mostly because the hex is
undersize.

Anybody own one?

Bob

On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:42:42 -0400
Bob Engelhardt wrote:

This Vise Grips has 1 jaw with 2 smooth surfaces at 60 degrees to each
other and a smooth opposing surface:
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-VISE-GRI.../dp/B00004SBBD

In theory it seems like it would be very good for holding rounded off
hex heads/nuts. But is it really that much better than plain 'ole
toothed jaws Vise Grips? And enough better to justify a dedicated tool?

I guess its real advantage is getting a _tight_ grip on hex without
marring any surfaces. Face it - hardly any wrench fits a hex
head/nut/fitting without a little slop. Mostly because the hex is
undersize.

Anybody own one?

Nope, but I've had the same thought. Looks like it could work well if
you still have an area for the vee to fit/lock on to.

I have a couple of these though:

http://www.amazon.com/Ridgid-31275-H...dp/B0015BGFAC/

Two different sizes. Work really nice for big nuts. Stuff like the
nut on a ball hitch or large conduit compression fitting. You get a bit
better grip than say a large adjustable wrench. I can usually find an
adjustable wrench first though...

Problem with them though is you got to have free access all the
way around the problem nut/bolt head. How often does that happen ;-)

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Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message
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This Vise Grips has 1 jaw with 2 smooth surfaces at 60 degrees to
each other and a smooth opposing surface:
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-VISE-GRI.../dp/B00004SBBD

In theory it seems like it would be very good for holding rounded
off hex heads/nuts. But is it really that much better than plain
'ole toothed jaws Vise Grips? And enough better to justify a
dedicated tool?

I guess its real advantage is getting a _tight_ grip on hex without
marring any surfaces. Face it - hardly any wrench fits a hex
head/nut/fitting without a little slop. Mostly because the hex is
undersize.

Anybody own one?

Bob

The smallest common bolt sizes it will clamp onto without shims are
1/2" and M10, for which the handle is rather short to break loose a
frozen nut. Some of the 1/2" nuts on my truck torque to 100 ft-lbs.
Also it needs more than the usual clearance around the hex,
considerably more than an impact socket, and has no angular offset so
the handle lies tight against the surface. I haven't found a use where
a 6 point socket wouldn't do better, and I'll be happy if owning it
guarantees I never will.

The minimum size of 7/16" refers to a 7/16" bolt with a 5/8" hex head.
It's loose on 3/8" (9/16" hex) and M8 heads.

- - - - - -
A while ago I asked about a jack stand with a screw adjustment. The
other day I found a telescoping screw jack from an old Land Cruiser
which looks perfect.
http://www.lcool.org/technical/90_se...d_breaker.html
Fully extended it's about an easily shimmed inch short of the table of
my 4x6 horizontal bandsaw. To cut long heavy stock I balance the stock
on the table, rig up support at the height of the end, then move the
stock onto the support.

-jsw, finishing off the last chocolate Easter bunny.

On 4/10/2015 5:56 PM, Leon Fisk wrote:
... if
you still have an area for the vee to fit/lock on to.

....

Good point. A lot of the time you don't have the access. Too often you
don't have the room to swing either and resetting the Vise Grips every
60 degrees would be tedious.
Bob

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
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"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message
...
This Vise Grips has 1 jaw with 2 smooth surfaces at 60 degrees to
each other and a smooth opposing surface:
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-VISE-GRI.../dp/B00004SBBD
.....
Anybody own one?

Bob

I forgot to mention that it's a good non-marring nail puller that
needs only a stub of the shank to grab.
-jsw

On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:42:42 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

This Vise Grips has 1 jaw with 2 smooth surfaces at 60 degrees to each
other and a smooth opposing surface:
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-VISE-GRI.../dp/B00004SBBD

In theory it seems like it would be very good for holding rounded off
hex heads/nuts. But is it really that much better than plain 'ole
toothed jaws Vise Grips? And enough better to justify a dedicated tool?

I guess its real advantage is getting a _tight_ grip on hex without
marring any surfaces. Face it - hardly any wrench fits a hex
head/nut/fitting without a little slop. Mostly because the hex is
undersize.

Anybody own one?

Bob
Where were they 30 years ago????
That's the only type of "gripping pliers" from any manufacturer that
has any business being used as a "wrench"

Bob Engelhardt wrote:
This Vise Grips has 1 jaw with 2 smooth surfaces at 60 degrees to each
other and a smooth opposing surface:
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-VISE-GRI.../dp/B00004SBBD

In theory it seems like it would be very good for holding rounded off
hex heads/nuts. But is it really that much better than plain 'ole
toothed jaws Vise Grips? And enough better to justify a dedicated tool?

I guess its real advantage is getting a _tight_ grip on hex without
marring any surfaces. Face it - hardly any wrench fits a hex
head/nut/fitting without a little slop. Mostly because the hex is
undersize.

Anybody own one?

Bob

Got a couple, they are handy for junk yard toolboxes. They also work
reasonably well to remove rounded nuts/bolts.

--
Steve W.

On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 22:05:43 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 10 Apr 2015 17:42:42 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

This Vise Grips has 1 jaw with 2 smooth surfaces at 60 degrees to each
other and a smooth opposing surface:
http://www.amazon.com/Tools-VISE-GRI.../dp/B00004SBBD

In theory it seems like it would be very good for holding rounded off
hex heads/nuts. But is it really that much better than plain 'ole
toothed jaws Vise Grips? And enough better to justify a dedicated tool?

I guess its real advantage is getting a _tight_ grip on hex without
marring any surfaces. Face it - hardly any wrench fits a hex
head/nut/fitting without a little slop. Mostly because the hex is
undersize.

Anybody own one?

Bob
Where were they 30 years ago????
That's the only type of "gripping pliers" from any manufacturer that
has any business being used as a "wrench"

I've seen more torn-up nuts with vise-grip marks on them. sigh You
know, those yahoos with 2 screwdrivers, a pair of vise grips, and a
big crescent wrench who call themselves handymen, millwrights or
engineers?

***
These three nice tools/toolsets were in links from that wrench. I'd
like to have all 3.

http://tinyurl.com/ljtgnhh When there's no room for straight pliers.

http://tinyurl.com/po2wrkc I've needed these more times than I can
say. They go at the top of my wishlist.

http://tinyurl.com/qyyxuwk These probably aren't very strong, but
they could get into lots of tight, deep spaces. I have a couple pairs
of long needlenoses, but they can't go deep + tight.

QUESTION:
I don't have any experience with Triplett tools or jaws. Are they
good, hardened steel which keep their teeth? Anyone? One can flatten
the teeth on HF vise grips in one session. Me no like.

--
It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails,
admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something.
-- Franklin D. Roosevelt

On Sat, 11 Apr 2015 06:55:46 -0700
Larry Jaques wrote:

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http://tinyurl.com/po2wrkc I've needed these more times than I can
say. They go at the top of my wishlist.

HF has those except they don't have the rubber on them. Probably about
the same quality in looking over the Amazon reviews. I've got a pair
from HF but they were a "just in case" buy. For when I was changing out
the fuel tank on my truck. Never used them yet. See:

http://www.harborfreight.com/15-inch...ers-97609.html

Ended up using these for the long reach work. The 20 deg mostly:

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-piece...set-33202.html

There are four of them all told. Straight, 20, 45 and 90 deg. You need
to buy them from the store though. Check out the jaw alignment and make
sure it is okay first. A lot of them are poorly lined up. They go on
sale a lot. Don't pay full price...

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b
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