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Have you EVER posted metalworking content here ? Cites , please . I'm
tossing everybody that doesn't . Politics I can get at AS or on teevee ,
metalworking content is what this group is about . Enough is enough , and if
we all get together and killfile multi-group and political posters this will
be a much more pleasant place .

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Today's metal work was to bend some 1/8 x 1/2 SS flat stock to make pegs
to secure my "deer cages" that I have built (did that tues) to go around my
fruit trees . Didn't work out so well ... The cages are 36" diameter tubes
of 6x6 concrete rewire . All welded construction , same as the tomato cages
built last year . I'll be making some more of those too , I need 8 more for
the planned tomato patch . The tree cages will also be wrapped with some
deer mesh , they can poke their little noses thru a 6x6 and nibble the new
growth .


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"Terry Coombs" wrote:

Have you EVER posted metalworking content here ? Cites , please . I'm
tossing everybody that doesn't . Politics I can get at AS or on teevee ,
metalworking content is what this group is about . Enough is enough , and if
we all get together and killfile multi-group and political posters this will
be a much more pleasant place .


I'm pretty sure Winston is here due to cross-posting...

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Today's metal work was to bend some 1/8 x 1/2 SS flat stock to make pegs
to secure my "deer cages" that I have built (did that tues) to go around my
fruit trees . Didn't work out so well ... The cages are 36" diameter tubes
of 6x6 concrete rewire . All welded construction , same as the tomato cages
built last year . I'll be making some more of those too , I need 8 more for
the planned tomato patch . The tree cages will also be wrapped with some
deer mesh , they can poke their little noses thru a 6x6 and nibble the new
growth .


I have several tomato cages made from 4" x 4" square fencing that is 4
ft high. I pound in a fencing T-post (5 or 6 ft) and then wire the cage
to it for support. You can find T-posts at stores catering to farm
fencing and such. Like this:

http://www.tractorsupply.com/webapp/...rchTerm=t+post


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Snag
Today's metal work was to bend some 1/8 x 1/2 SS flat stock to make
pegs to secure my "deer cages" that I have built (did that tues) to
go around my fruit trees . Didn't work out so well ... The cages are
36" diameter tubes of 6x6 concrete rewire . All welded construction
, same as the tomato cages built last year . I'll be making some
more of those too , I need 8 more for the planned tomato patch . The
tree cages will also be wrapped with some deer mesh , they can poke
their little noses thru a 6x6 and nibble the new growth .


I have several tomato cages made from 4" x 4" square fencing that is 4
ft high. I pound in a fencing T-post (5 or 6 ft) and then wire the
cage to it for support. You can find T-posts at stores catering to
farm fencing and such.


I shoulda thought of that ... I have a few of those , not enough but the
co-op sells 'em for just over 4 bucks each . I was going to drive pegs and
string wire , but this is simpler , easier , and doesn't keep my mower away
from the cages . I don't worry so much about the tomatoes , but if a deer
tipped a tree cage it would do more damage than if I let it nibble . My
peach and one cherry tree might already be dead ... I tried all kinds of
sprays and stuff last year , nothing worked for more than a few days . Looks
like my metalworking for today will be to build a post driver . Got just the
materials I need on hand too , sometimes it's good to be a packrat .

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Leon Fisk wrote:

I have several tomato cages made from 4" x 4" square fencing that is 4
ft high. I pound in a fencing T-post (5 or 6 ft) and then wire the
cage to it for support. You can find T-posts at stores catering to
farm fencing and such.


I shoulda thought of that ... I have a few of those , not enough but the
co-op sells 'em for just over 4 bucks each . I was going to drive pegs and
string wire , but this is simpler , easier , and doesn't keep my mower away
from the cages . I don't worry so much about the tomatoes , but if a deer
tipped a tree cage it would do more damage than if I let it nibble . My
peach and one cherry tree might already be dead ... I tried all kinds of
sprays and stuff last year , nothing worked for more than a few days . Looks
like my metalworking for today will be to build a post driver . Got just the
materials I need on hand too , sometimes it's good to be a packrat .


I just push them in a little bit, then use a 6lb sledge hammer. Hold
the post steady with one hand and then sledge with the other (choked
up on the handle). After you get them down a foot or so you can use both
hands on the sledge. Post driver would be nice though.

A deer can/will starve to death with a full stomach. They can eat
pretty much anything, just like some stuff better than others ;-)

I had to put a fence around the garden several years ago due to both
the deer and rabbits. What the deer didn't damage eating they would walk
all over. Fence is only 4ft tall but they have never went over it yet.
My fence posts are 6ft tall. Figured I would string a single wire
around the top if they still got in by jumping over. Had to run chicken
wire along the bottom to keep the rabbits out. They would zip through
the 4" x 2" square fence like it wasn't even there...

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On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 08:15:12 -0600
"Terry Coombs" wrote:

Leon Fisk wrote:

I have several tomato cages made from 4" x 4" square fencing that
is 4 ft high. I pound in a fencing T-post (5 or 6 ft) and then wire
the cage to it for support. You can find T-posts at stores catering
to farm fencing and such.


I shoulda thought of that ... I have a few of those , not enough
but the co-op sells 'em for just over 4 bucks each . I was going to
drive pegs and string wire , but this is simpler , easier , and
doesn't keep my mower away from the cages . I don't worry so much
about the tomatoes , but if a deer tipped a tree cage it would do
more damage than if I let it nibble . My peach and one cherry tree
might already be dead ... I tried all kinds of sprays and stuff last
year , nothing worked for more than a few days . Looks like my
metalworking for today will be to build a post driver . Got just the
materials I need on hand too , sometimes it's good to be a packrat .


I just push them in a little bit, then use a 6lb sledge hammer. Hold
the post steady with one hand and then sledge with the other (choked
up on the handle). After you get them down a foot or so you can use
both hands on the sledge. Post driver would be nice though.

A deer can/will starve to death with a full stomach. They can eat
pretty much anything, just like some stuff better than others ;-)

I had to put a fence around the garden several years ago due to both
the deer and rabbits. What the deer didn't damage eating they would
walk all over. Fence is only 4ft tall but they have never went over
it yet. My fence posts are 6ft tall. Figured I would string a single
wire around the top if they still got in by jumping over. Had to run
chicken wire along the bottom to keep the rabbits out. They would zip
through the 4" x 2" square fence like it wasn't even there...


Rabbits haven't been a problem , we see very few of them down here in the
woods . I have a piece of pipe that will slide over the posts , some 5/16"
round stock , and some bigger steel rounds for a cap . That plus a shop full
of tools and time on my hands ...
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Rabbits haven't been a problem , we see very few of them down here in the
woods . I have a piece of pipe that will slide over the posts , some 5/16"
round stock , and some bigger steel rounds for a cap . That plus a shop full
of tools and time on my hands ...


Year before the fence I took out 14 of them in a months time. They are
in full "production" the same time as all our flowers and veggies...

Been going to mention this... I have an old walking tractor that could
use some wheel weights. Kinda like your tractor could use some more
weight. I think you could take off a wheel, lay it on its side and then
make some weights from cement. You'd have to make a circular form to
contain the outside edge, lay some plastic on the rim so it would
release and of course some bolts into the rim to hold it in place.
Maybe some wire, reinforcement in the cement too. Just an idea in case
your haven't got anything else to do

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