Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is
not supposed to get any water in it I'm sure some gets in from
condensdation and maybe coolant leaking in somewhere. So this tiny
amount of water must be enough for the type of bacteria that eats oils
to live fairly well. I have washed out the sump with solvent but I'm
thinking that any bacteria that can eat way lube will probably like
stoddard solvent too. Will the bacteriocide used in diesel burning
machines and oil burning furnaces kill the bacteria in my machine
sump? I'd like to just rinse the sump with bacteriocide laden diesel
oil, drain, dry, and then fill with way lube. Anybody think this would
prevent the rapid regrowth of the gel?
Thanks,
Eric
P.S.
Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

On 2014-11-10, wrote:
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is

[ ... ]

Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

It is called "way lube", because it is made to lubricate the
sliding *ways*. At least my lathe (Clausing 12x24") requires a different
(and much thinner) oil in the apron. Double check the manual for that
lathe (if you can find one.)

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On 11/9/2014 6:31 PM, wrote:
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is
not supposed to get any water in it I'm sure some gets in from
condensdation and maybe coolant leaking in somewhere. So this tiny
amount of water must be enough for the type of bacteria that eats oils
to live fairly well. I have washed out the sump with solvent but I'm
thinking that any bacteria that can eat way lube will probably like
stoddard solvent too. Will the bacteriocide used in diesel burning
machines and oil burning furnaces kill the bacteria in my machine
sump? I'd like to just rinse the sump with bacteriocide laden diesel
oil, drain, dry, and then fill with way lube. Anybody think this would
prevent the rapid regrowth of the gel?
Thanks,
Eric
P.S.
Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

It is very sticky and sticks to the Ways lubing and protecting the ways.
It will stick on heavy pressure and vertical surfaces.

Martin

"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2014-11-10, wrote:
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is

[ ... ]

Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

It is called "way lube", because it is made to lubricate the
sliding *ways*. At least my lathe (Clausing 12x24") requires a different
(and much thinner) oil in the apron. Double check the manual for that
lathe (if you can find one.)

Every lathe I have requires a hydraulic / gear oil for gearboxes and
apron. Way lube is only for the sliding ways.

On Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:31:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:

su I'd like to just rinse the sump with bacteriocide laden diesel
oil, drain, dry, and then fill with way lube. Anybody think this would
prevent the rapid regrowth of the gel?
Thanks,
Eric


I would rinse the sump with bateriocide diesel and not bother to dry the sump.
Diesel has a little lubricating properties and a little diesel should not be a problem.

Dan

On 10 Nov 2014 01:41:12 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

On 2014-11-10, wrote:
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is

[ ... ]

Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

It is called "way lube", because it is made to lubricate the
sliding *ways*. At least my lathe (Clausing 12x24") requires a different
(and much thinner) oil in the apron. Double check the manual for that
lathe (if you can find one.)
Don,
I was making a joke. I guess it didn't go over too well. I better not
try stand up comedy. The apron also has the lube pump for the ways.
And it says right on the apron to use Shell Tonna 33 for which Mobil
Vactra 22 is an equivalent. And Vactra 22 is way lube.
Eric

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 06:53:42 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2014-11-10, wrote:
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is

[ ... ]

Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

It is called "way lube", because it is made to lubricate the
sliding *ways*. At least my lathe (Clausing 12x24") requires a different
(and much thinner) oil in the apron. Double check the manual for that
lathe (if you can find one.)

Every lathe I have requires a hydraulic / gear oil for gearboxes and
apron. Way lube is only for the sliding ways.
I have run several lathes that use the same oil in the apron gearbox
as on the ways. And they have all specified way lube of one type or
another.
Eric

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 05:08:02 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:31:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:

su I'd like to just rinse the sump with bacteriocide laden diesel
oil, drain, dry, and then fill with way lube. Anybody think this would
prevent the rapid regrowth of the gel?
Thanks,
Eric


I would rinse the sump with bateriocide diesel and not bother to dry the sump.
Diesel has a little lubricating properties and a little diesel should not be a problem.

Dan
You are probably right Dan. I'm just wondering if it will be effective
or if I should just refill with new oil. If I had an oven big enough I
would just bake the thing at 180 degrees for a few hours and be done
with it.
ERic

wrote in message ...
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is
not supposed to get any water in it I'm sure some gets in from
condensdation and maybe coolant leaking in somewhere. So this tiny
amount of water must be enough for the type of bacteria that eats oils
to live fairly well. I have washed out the sump with solvent but I'm
thinking that any bacteria that can eat way lube will probably like
stoddard solvent too. Will the bacteriocide used in diesel burning
machines and oil burning furnaces kill the bacteria in my machine
sump? I'd like to just rinse the sump with bacteriocide laden diesel
oil, drain, dry, and then fill with way lube. Anybody think this would
prevent the rapid regrowth of the gel?

Yes, although my guess is the gel is likely due to the petroleum molecules reverting back into longer chains over a long peiod of time, and or evaporation of the lighter fractions. If the problem is indeed bacterial, I would soak overnight, bacteriocides generally need to be in contact with the target organism for some period of time to be fully effective.

Thanks,
Eric
P.S.
Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

It's a throwback to early ship building, ships are still commonly launched under gravty, down wooden "ways". Early machine tools were of similar construction, greased wood beams. Oftentimes the matinging wooden blocks were lined with thin metallic strips in order to reduce friction.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 09:10:52 -0800, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 05:08:02 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Sunday, November 9, 2014 7:31:52 PM UTC-5, wrote:

su I'd like to just rinse the sump with bacteriocide laden diesel
oil, drain, dry, and then fill with way lube. Anybody think this would
prevent the rapid regrowth of the gel?
Thanks,
Eric


I would rinse the sump with bateriocide diesel and not bother to dry the sump.
Diesel has a little lubricating properties and a little diesel should not be a problem.

Dan
You are probably right Dan. I'm just wondering if it will be effective
or if I should just refill with new oil. If I had an oven big enough I
would just bake the thing at 180 degrees for a few hours and be done
with it.
ERic

Simply fill the box with some Clorox and let it sit for a few hours
outside. Its not rocket science. And after its been dumped and
flushed..refill with good oil and get on with your life.

This is a fairly regular issue in machine shops, from lubricants to
coolants..particularly in this economy when many machines sit for long
periods of time.

Gunner

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miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
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wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 06:53:42 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2014-11-10, wrote:
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is

[ ... ]

Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

It is called "way lube", because it is made to lubricate the
sliding *ways*. At least my lathe (Clausing 12x24") requires a different
(and much thinner) oil in the apron. Double check the manual for that
lathe (if you can find one.)

Every lathe I have requires a hydraulic / gear oil for gearboxes and
apron. Way lube is only for the sliding ways.
I have run several lathes that use the same oil in the apron gearbox
as on the ways. And they have all specified way lube of one type or
another.
Eric

Well, mine call for very different oils. One calls for DTE24
hydraulic/gear oil for the gearboxes and apron, and 68 way lube on the
ways. My other two call for similar.

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 17:24:15 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


wrote:

On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 06:53:42 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2014-11-10, wrote:
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is

[ ... ]

Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

It is called "way lube", because it is made to lubricate the
sliding *ways*. At least my lathe (Clausing 12x24") requires a different
(and much thinner) oil in the apron. Double check the manual for that
lathe (if you can find one.)

Every lathe I have requires a hydraulic / gear oil for gearboxes and
apron. Way lube is only for the sliding ways.
I have run several lathes that use the same oil in the apron gearbox
as on the ways. And they have all specified way lube of one type or
another.
Eric

Well, mine call for very different oils. One calls for DTE24
hydraulic/gear oil for the gearboxes and apron, and 68 way lube on the
ways. My other two call for similar.
The reason some lathes use way oil in the apron is because the apron
serves as the reservoir for the way lube. There is a pump in the apron
that pumps oil to the ways.
Eric

On Sunday, November 9, 2014 4:31:52 PM UTC-8, wrote:
Diesel folks,
I took apart the apron on a used lathe I bought and the sump had gobs
and gobs of gobs of gelled oil. Even though the sump in the apron is
not supposed to get any water in it I'm sure some gets in from
condensdation and maybe coolant leaking in somewhere. So this tiny
amount of water must be enough for the type of bacteria that eats oils

The bacteria that eat oil are usually anaerobic; oxygen kills 'em.
It could be a LOT of things. Best plan, is just to remove anything in the
sump that comes out in a slotted spoon, and unclog any filters.
In the old days, one might some carburetor cleaner to the oil and
circulate it to do a 'clean-out', but that's VERY BAD unless your ventilation
is top-notch.

Naturally, if you dislike the look, or history-mystery of the lube, it's time to
recycle it and maybe pay attention to the filter/pump/manifold/pipes

On Monday, November 10, 2014 12:10:45 PM UTC-5, wrote:


You are probably right Dan. I'm just wondering if it will be effective
or if I should just refill with new oil. If I had an oven big enough I
would just bake the thing at 180 degrees for a few hours and be done
with it.
ERIC

A long time ago, I read something about Houghton selling a oil with some iodine added. I don't think it was cutting oil, I think it was to lubricate stainless against stainless. So I rummaged around on the internet and found a patent of two about using iodine as a biostat and also improving the performance of a cutting oil. I also found references that said that iodine is very corrosive to some metals.

So I would probably buy some biostat rather than trying a do it yourself solution.

Dan

On 2014-11-10, wrote:
On 10 Nov 2014 01:41:12 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

On 2014-11-10, wrote:

[ ... ]

Why is it called way lube? Is it just because it is so good? I mean
it's not just lube, it's WAY lube. Just askin'

[ ... ]

Don,
I was making a joke. I guess it didn't go over too well. I better not
try stand up comedy. The apron also has the lube pump for the ways.
And it says right on the apron to use Shell Tonna 33 for which Mobil
Vactra 22 is an equivalent. And Vactra 22 is way lube.
Eric

Sorry. I tend to treat every question here (except from obvious
trolls) as serious -- and typing with a broken arm slows my humor
detector.

Besides -- for a newbie reading your question, if not for you.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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