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You don't stay clear of LinkedIn and you lie frequently to cover what you
truly are.

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Nonsense. I've been on LinkedIn about a dozen times in the past six months,
usually because someone I know has asked if I would do so. That's why I
have
a minimal profile. I don't want anything to do with it. It's a waste of
time
As a sterling example, it's wasting what little there is of your life.

Do you have a real job yet? When you actually did work, you used to talk
about it all the time. All you do now is dodge the question from everyone
who asks you what you do.

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The fact is that you don't have any serious industry connections and your
LinkedIn profile shows this.

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[Ed]

Unlike you, Jon, I have *real* industry connections, with whom I'm either
emailing or talking with on the phone all the time. Last week I was in
Chicago for meetings with some of them.

Yours are online connections -- as thin and as meaningless as a can of
compressed air.

================================================= ===============

You also fail to understand how to properly use business social networking.
You will never understand how to properly use business social networking
until it's too late. I'd argue that time is already here for you.

================================================= ===============
[Ed]

Jon, I'm one of the best-known metalworking magazine editors in the
country.
I don't need your kind of connections. I have real ones.

================================================= ===============

You're a loser in a dying business. The business of taking advertising
money
and then writing bull**** articles about those businesses and pretending to
be objective is in deep trouble. Social business networking has changed the
entire market. You and the business you're in are headed for extinction and
it can't happen soon enough. :)

================================================= ===============

[Ed]

I'm doing just fine, Jon. And, unlike you, I have a real job, with plenty
of
other opportunities if I should want them.

You have no understanding of magazine editing. Your fantasies are not a
substitute for knowledge.


I won't touch linked in or facebook or any social media. I waste
enough time on email and here.

================================================== ===============

[Ed]

I have a young editor who takes care of that. People keep telling me I have
to be there. But I see very little of interest on social media. It looks
like a place to pretend you have a lot of friends, when you don't have real
ones.

However, I do like to follow a few people on Twitter. But I've never posted
a tweet (is someone who tweets known as a twit? Is the past-pluperfect tense
of tweet, "had ****"?)

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Try again.


Keep trying

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If you look at the header, you'll see you're reverting to your old habit of
talking to yourself.

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SNIP

This is so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :)


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[Ed]

It's one of the few entertainments one gets in talking with you, Jon. Five
minutes of Google searching on "Jon Banquer" gives one enough material to
kick your sorry butt across seven counties. d8-)

We all notice that you have ducked and dodged about a dozen recent requests
from various people, for you to explain what you do for a living. What kind
of welfare checks do you collect?


Ed, you are going to "lose" the discussion. You can't possibly shame
jon-jon into being quiet as he isn't smart enough to understand the
concept.

The only solution is simply ignore him.... and even that isn't fool
proof as he frequently changes his nyme when ever he begins to feel
ignored. (which is frequently)


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Larry Jaques wrote:

That said, Holley carbs always (or at least OFTEN) had issues with
leaks between the metering block and the throttle body, often due to
warped metering blocks - worse in hot climates but common enough up
here in Ontario,


Right. And if it wasn't a leak, it was a plugged orifice.



You're never in the orifice anyway!


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On Sunday, July 27, 2014 6:37:22 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:09:17 -0400, "Ed Huntress"

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"jon_banquer" wrote in message


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SNIP




This is so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :)




================================================= =================================




[Ed]




It's one of the few entertainments one gets in talking with you, Jon. Five


minutes of Google searching on "Jon Banquer" gives one enough material to


kick your sorry butt across seven counties. d8-)




We all notice that you have ducked and dodged about a dozen recent requests


from various people, for you to explain what you do for a living. What kind


of welfare checks do you collect?




Ed, you are going to "lose" the discussion. You can't possibly shame

jon-jon into being quiet as he isn't smart enough to understand the

concept.



The only solution is simply ignore him.... and even that isn't fool

proof as he frequently changes his nyme when ever he begins to feel

ignored. (which is frequently)





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Cheers,



John B.


Being opinionated and persistent is what I'm known for. Those who hire me like those qualities and want to exploit them.

slow Eddy can't ignore me. He's tried many times for well over a decade and failed every time. Anyone care to guess why? :)

Finally, thanks for proving once again that Mark Wieber clique of idiot members like you are too stupid to know how to use a newsgroup filter.





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On Sunday, July 27, 2014 3:55:55 PM UTC-7, jon_banquer wrote:



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Try again.




Keep trying



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[Ed]



If you look at the header, you'll see you're reverting to your old habit of

talking to yourself.



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If you reread this thread, slow Eddy you will see you're once again reverting to your old habit of not being able to answer questions asked of you.

When you do reread this thread you will see just how badly I kicked your worthless, lying ass to the curb... again! I suggest that before you do the reread that you take some very strong pain relievers because the hurt I put on you in this thread is epic.

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:09:17 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:



"jon_banquer" wrote in message
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SNIP

This is so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :)


================================================= =================================

[Ed]

It's one of the few entertainments one gets in talking with you, Jon. Five
minutes of Google searching on "Jon Banquer" gives one enough material to
kick your sorry butt across seven counties. d8-)

We all notice that you have ducked and dodged about a dozen recent requests
from various people, for you to explain what you do for a living. What kind
of welfare checks do you collect?


Ed, you are going to "lose" the discussion. You can't possibly shame
jon-jon into being quiet as he isn't smart enough to understand the
concept.

The only solution is simply ignore him.... and even that isn't fool
proof as he frequently changes his nyme when ever he begins to feel
ignored. (which is frequently)


--
Cheers,

John B.

================================================== ===========
[Ed]

I realize what you're saying, John, and anyone with any sense -- anyone
whose opinion matters -- realizes that Jon-jon is beyond reason, that he's
so used to being humiliated that it doesn't even faze him anymore. It comes
from the same sense of beaten-down fatalism that leads him to say he doesn't
mind being arrested. It's bogus, but what else can he say, with his mug shot
archived on the Web?

Jon reminds me of an 80-pound blue shark I tussled with out at Montauk
around 20 years ago. I was using a fresh-water spinning outfit with 8-pound
line. That shark was not the sharpest fin in the water; he'd run for a dozen
yards and then change direction, like Jon does when he doesn't want to
answer a question. The shark didn't realize that his escape would be to run
in one direction until he'd run my line out. But he just got it in his head
that going in a different direction every few flips was the way to do it,
and he wore himself out swimming in all directions. He never gained any
line.

After almost an hour of this I was getting bored, the shark was getting
tuckered out, and we decided to end it. We brought him to the boat, with
just 8-pound line and an 8-foot steel leader, and I cut the leader at the
hook. He was too shot to try bringing him over the side; he probably
wouldn't have recovered. So the shark, realizing there was no tension on
him, gave one big flip of his tail and took off.

Now we'll cut the leader, Jon will give one flip of his tail, and he can
head back to LinkedIn, where he gets along because he can make postings
disappear when he doesn't like them.

Thanks, John. And adios, Jon-jon.

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On Sunday, July 27, 2014 7:31:26 PM UTC-7, Ed Huntress wrote:
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:09:17 -0400, "Ed Huntress"

wrote:







"jon_banquer" wrote in message


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SNIP




This is so easy it's like shooting fish in a barrel. :)




================================================= =================================




[Ed]




It's one of the few entertainments one gets in talking with you, Jon. Five


minutes of Google searching on "Jon Banquer" gives one enough material to


kick your sorry butt across seven counties. d8-)




We all notice that you have ducked and dodged about a dozen recent requests


from various people, for you to explain what you do for a living. What kind


of welfare checks do you collect?




Ed, you are going to "lose" the discussion. You can't possibly shame

jon-jon into being quiet as he isn't smart enough to understand the

concept.



The only solution is simply ignore him.... and even that isn't fool

proof as he frequently changes his nyme when ever he begins to feel

ignored. (which is frequently)





--

Cheers,



John B.



================================================== ===========

[Ed]



I realize what you're saying, John, and anyone with any sense -- anyone

whose opinion matters -- realizes that Jon-jon is beyond reason, that he's

so used to being humiliated that it doesn't even faze him anymore. It comes

from the same sense of beaten-down fatalism that leads him to say he doesn't

mind being arrested. It's bogus, but what else can he say, with his mug shot

archived on the Web?



Jon reminds me of an 80-pound blue shark I tussled with out at Montauk

around 20 years ago. I was using a fresh-water spinning outfit with 8-pound

line. That shark was not the sharpest fin in the water; he'd run for a dozen

yards and then change direction, like Jon does when he doesn't want to

answer a question. The shark didn't realize that his escape would be to run

in one direction until he'd run my line out. But he just got it in his head

that going in a different direction every few flips was the way to do it,

and he wore himself out swimming in all directions. He never gained any

line.



After almost an hour of this I was getting bored, the shark was getting

tuckered out, and we decided to end it. We brought him to the boat, with

just 8-pound line and an 8-foot steel leader, and I cut the leader at the

hook. He was too shot to try bringing him over the side; he probably

wouldn't have recovered. So the shark, realizing there was no tension on

him, gave one big flip of his tail and took off.



Now we'll cut the leader, Jon will give one flip of his tail, and he can

head back to LinkedIn, where he gets along because he can make postings

disappear when he doesn't like them.



Thanks, John. And adios, Jon-jon.



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slow Eddy just can't seem to grasp that many people know exactly who I am and what I'm all about. :) This fact makes it even more fun for me as I rattle slow Eddy's cage and jerk his chain. It's easy to do with idiots like slow Eddy who pretend that they know and understand the modern, high-tech, CNC job shop business/the CADCAM business. Slow Eddy is old school and he can't change.

Paid advertising machinist and CADCAM forums, as well as worthless advertising driven CADCAM magazines, are no longer the way most CADCAM programmers get their information. A whole new world has emerged and LinkedIn groups like mine are leading the way. Basically, it's just about over but slow Eddy has his head shoved so far up his ass he can't see what's happening and how the world of business social networking has passed him by. Even if slow Eddy did understand he isn't capable of adapting to it. Put another way, you can't teach a handicapped, frail, old dog with dementia new tricks.






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As I said, Jon, the people who endorse your "skills" are people who


haven't yet figured you out.


Or they're just pitious _smaller_ sycophants (yes-man, bootlicker, brown-

noser, toady, lickspittle, flatterer, flunky, lackey, spaniel, doormat,

stooge, cringer, suck, suck-up) who have no lives of their own, either.



I get all of my business from direct referrals. I have more offers than

I can accept; signed contracts a year out. If anything, I need to move

to new quarters and hire more staff; but that's a chancy deal, and I

don't need money that much. Most of what I have is already paid for.



It's not "big money", it's steady, reliable income. I'll never get rich

doing it, but I love what I do; can't think of a better business (for

me).


Is that a challenge to jon ??

Then there are those who start LinkedIn blogs in the hope they'll get
more than 28 comments! G


But how many people viewed it. Even viewing the usenet invite 8 views so far?

Now post your own up there and see if you even get a fraction of the response?
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Now post your own up there and see if you even get a fraction of the
response?


Why? It would make me spend time doing something to get 'ego points' I
don't need.

I don't need 'followers', I need regular, repeat customers. I've got
those.

Mine is a very small market. All the people whom I'd like to know me
already know who I am, and how to contact me. I didn't build that up
with a web group, I built it by customer referrals.

Like I said, I am not a 'precision' machinist, but I can make parts that
work for decades. I'm not an expert at CNC, but I use it to make parts,
because CAD and CAM let me verify the parts will fit right before I make
them, and CNC is faster and more accurate than making them by hand
(expecially 'organic' shapes).

And this is because I'm not in the business of making 'parts'. I'm in
the business of designing and building robotic machinery to do a very
difficult, very dirty, dangerous job. Whatever gets me there is what I
need.

Many of the people who start up 'groups' like those on LinkedIn are just
looking for attention. Some folks holler about LinkedIn all the time, as
if it were some panacaea for incompetence and indolence. For me, it would
just be a distraction from what makes my daily bread.

If that's how they get their attention, I guess it's OK; it's just not
for me; or anyone else who works ten to twelve hour days at his trade.

Lloyd


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On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:30:04 AM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:18:30 AM UTC-7, wrote:

On Friday, July 25, 2014 11:53:40 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:


On Friday, July 25, 2014 8:27:50 PM UTC-7, Ed Huntress wrote:


"jon_banquer" wrote in message


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On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:29:47 PM UTC-7, Ed Huntress wrote:


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Jeez, whatever you do with your newsreader makes an even bigger mess than


mine. What do you do, sit on your keyboard?



Have you stopped living off of SSI, Jon?




Would be hard to stop when I've never been on SSI, slow Eddy.


Care to provide proof of this lie or is this like your other lies where




you


never can provide any factual evidence when your called on your lies



Time to go back writing ad copy, slow Eddy. It's the only way you can



make


a




living.


Hey, it's just a question, like "Have you stopped beating your wife?"


And


we



know how that one goes for you, right? You ought to see if you can get a


better mug shot. That one looks awful.


In other words, you lied again and can't produce any proof. That's the


slow


Eddy I know.



Where is the lie? I asked a question. But your mug shot still looks awful.




Can't you do any better than this?



Compared to this mugshot I think I look damn good:


When Americans start violent protests at Walmarts I'll see what I can do to


accomidate you by getting arrested. What concerns me is you're so old and


senile that I doubt you will be alive by then.


Well, don't get arrested again on my account, Jon. And I'm still pretty




spry. I'm 5'9", like you, but I never weighed more than 155. And that was


when I was on the lightweight crew in college.


I really have no issue with being arrested, Ed. I've been arrested


many times in my life.



And if you weren't read your Miranda Rights, then you probably weren't even arrested (on record).


What's a major problem for my critics is I've never been




convicted of a felony and that's really too bad as I secretly


wanted to be just like my old nemesis Heisenberg.



And if you've been detained by the police many times, but never convicted of a felony, then the cops, investigators and prosecutors should be referred to your state's legislature (or your congressman) for harassment/overzealous behavior.


You may have a lawsuit in your favor.




In the mug shot that slow Eddy and many others looking to try
and discredit me love to link to, the Florida prosecutor apologized
to me and they dismissed all charges. That was good enough for me.


Jon, if they tried to prosecute me and didn't apologize, then I'd ask for a F.O.I. copy of the prosecutor and investigator's entire file on me that they were supposedly going by and I'd keep my congressman and the feds (or vice versa) informed.

(Just to see if it all stemmed from, say business rivals - maybe even from major business leaders in the area. Sometimes, your business rivals can try foul play through the authorities without them knowing - better safe than sorry)
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On Saturday, July 26, 2014 11:30:04 AM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

On Saturday, July 26, 2014 8:18:30 AM UTC-7, wrote:




On Friday, July 25, 2014 11:53:40 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:




On Friday, July 25, 2014 8:27:50 PM UTC-7, Ed Huntress wrote:




"jon_banquer" wrote in message




...




On Friday, July 25, 2014 7:29:47 PM UTC-7, Ed Huntress wrote:




"jon_banquer" wrote in message




...




Jeez, whatever you do with your newsreader makes an even bigger mess than




mine. What do you do, sit on your keyboard?






Have you stopped living off of SSI, Jon?








Would be hard to stop when I've never been on SSI, slow Eddy.




Care to provide proof of this lie or is this like your other lies where








you




never can provide any factual evidence when your called on your lies






Time to go back writing ad copy, slow Eddy. It's the only way you can






make




a








living.




Hey, it's just a question, like "Have you stopped beating your wife?"




And




we






know how that one goes for you, right? You ought to see if you can get a




better mug shot. That one looks awful.




In other words, you lied again and can't produce any proof. That's the




slow




Eddy I know.






Where is the lie? I asked a question. But your mug shot still looks awful.








Can't you do any better than this?






Compared to this mugshot I think I look damn good:




When Americans start violent protests at Walmarts I'll see what I can do to




accomidate you by getting arrested. What concerns me is you're so old and




senile that I doubt you will be alive by then.




Well, don't get arrested again on my account, Jon. And I'm still pretty








spry. I'm 5'9", like you, but I never weighed more than 155. And that was




when I was on the lightweight crew in college.




I really have no issue with being arrested, Ed. I've been arrested




many times in my life.






And if you weren't read your Miranda Rights, then you probably weren't even arrested (on record).




What's a major problem for my critics is I've never been








convicted of a felony and that's really too bad as I secretly




wanted to be just like my old nemesis Heisenberg.






And if you've been detained by the police many times, but never convicted of a felony, then the cops, investigators and prosecutors should be referred to your state's legislature (or your congressman) for harassment/overzealous behavior.




You may have a lawsuit in your favor.








In the mug shot that slow Eddy and many others looking to try


and discredit me love to link to, the Florida prosecutor apologized


to me and they dismissed all charges. That was good enough for me.




Jon, if they tried to prosecute me and didn't apologize, then I'd ask for a F.O.I. copy of the prosecutor and investigator's entire file on me that they were supposedly going by and I'd keep my congressman and the feds (or vice versa) informed.



(Just to see if it all stemmed from, say business rivals - maybe even from major business leaders in the area. Sometimes, your business rivals can try foul play through the authorities without them knowing - better safe than sorry)


That mug shot has done nothing but help me.

I require that people who I speak with or that I work with not be sheeple. I can't think of a better way to quickly remove idiots who aren't adults and who need nannies. Those who try and use a mug shot against me are too stupid to realize that a mug shot and an arrest without a conviction doesn't mean anything. Dr. Martin Luther King's mug shot didn't hurt him and it doesn't hurt me.

Life isn't perfect. I'm not perfect. I don't expect others to be perfect. Anyone who judges someone on an arrest without a conviction isn't someone I want anything to do with. Slow Eddy shows his true colors by trying to use it against me. I couldn't be happier about that.
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