My youngest has a Razor Scooter, looking something like this one:

http://www.target.com/p/razor-ultra-...r/-/A-11893958

The handle bar is a single piece T shape that slips on to a groved (looks
threaded, but seems to be a series of parallel notches) stem in the base.
Then a collar with two 7mm socket cap screws (a very difficult item for
me to find for sale) that secure the collar and clamp the bottom of the
T to the stem.

The problem is that the handlebar doesn't stay aligned with the wheel.
A bump or a crack will twist the wheel one way while the handlebar is
going the other, and oops, out of alignment.

The razor website sells replacement collars that use four of those screws,
for a better hold. Alas, those are for a different model and the collars
are a few mm too small.

I was thinking of taking it apart and applying red thread lock (loctite)
on the groves of the stem so that it gets second way of securing to the
handlebars.

I could, but am not enthusiastic about the idea, drill through things
and add some sort of cross piece, eg, a heavy duty cotter pin. Thread
lock seems less permanent than epoxy or welding, so if I need to take
it apart to repair or replace a piece I have that as an option.

How does that plan sound?

Elijah
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shipping from the razor website is a killer, too

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded
wrote:

My youngest has a Razor Scooter, looking something like this one:

http://www.target.com/p/razor-ultra-...r/-/A-11893958

The handle bar is a single piece T shape that slips on to a groved (looks
threaded, but seems to be a series of parallel notches) stem in the base.
Then a collar with two 7mm socket cap screws (a very difficult item for
me to find for sale) that secure the collar and clamp the bottom of the
T to the stem.

The problem is that the handlebar doesn't stay aligned with the wheel.
A bump or a crack will twist the wheel one way while the handlebar is
going the other, and oops, out of alignment.

The razor website sells replacement collars that use four of those screws,
for a better hold. Alas, those are for a different model and the collars
are a few mm too small.

I was thinking of taking it apart and applying red thread lock (loctite)
on the groves of the stem so that it gets second way of securing to the
handlebars.

I could, but am not enthusiastic about the idea, drill through things
and add some sort of cross piece, eg, a heavy duty cotter pin. Thread
lock seems less permanent than epoxy or welding, so if I need to take
it apart to repair or replace a piece I have that as an option.

How does that plan sound?

Elijah
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shipping from the razor website is a killer, too
I would use instead of red Loctite the green stuff. Number 609 is one
grade of "forever Loctite". Since you are locking a cylinder, not
threads. I have always wondered why a different type of Loctite needed
to be used, what was different about the two types, one for threads
and the other for cylinders. The viscosities are so close to the same
that I don't think that's the reason. I did contact Henkel and ask
them but their technical dept. wouldn't tell me why.
Eric

How much longer you figure he's going to be the right
size to ride? I'd go with the red loctite, and see if
that holds.

Second attempt might be two part epoxy.

As to drill, cut threads and put in 8=32 screws maybe,
and loctite the screws in?

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On 9/13/2013 4:31 PM, Eli the Bearded wrote:
My youngest has a Razor Scooter, looking something like this one:

http://www.target.com/p/razor-ultra-...r/-/A-11893958

The handle bar is a single piece T shape that slips on to a groved (looks
threaded, but seems to be a series of parallel notches) stem in the base.
Then a collar with two 7mm socket cap screws (a very difficult item for
me to find for sale) that secure the collar and clamp the bottom of the
T to the stem.

The problem is that the handlebar doesn't stay aligned with the wheel.
A bump or a crack will twist the wheel one way while the handlebar is
going the other, and oops, out of alignment.

The razor website sells replacement collars that use four of those screws,
for a better hold. Alas, those are for a different model and the collars
are a few mm too small.

I was thinking of taking it apart and applying red thread lock (loctite)
on the groves of the stem so that it gets second way of securing to the
handlebars.

I could, but am not enthusiastic about the idea, drill through things
and add some sort of cross piece, eg, a heavy duty cotter pin. Thread
lock seems less permanent than epoxy or welding, so if I need to take
it apart to repair or replace a piece I have that as an option.

How does that plan sound?

Elijah
------
shipping from the razor website is a killer, too

On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Eli the Bearded
wrote:

My youngest has a Razor Scooter, looking something like this one:

http://www.target.com/p/razor-ultra-...r/-/A-11893958

The handle bar is a single piece T shape that slips on to a groved (looks
threaded, but seems to be a series of parallel notches) stem in the base.
Then a collar with two 7mm socket cap screws (a very difficult item for
me to find for sale) that secure the collar and clamp the bottom of the
T to the stem.

The problem is that the handlebar doesn't stay aligned with the wheel.
A bump or a crack will twist the wheel one way while the handlebar is
going the other, and oops, out of alignment.

The razor website sells replacement collars that use four of those screws,
for a better hold. Alas, those are for a different model and the collars
are a few mm too small.

I was thinking of taking it apart and applying red thread lock (loctite)
on the groves of the stem so that it gets second way of securing to the
handlebars.

I could, but am not enthusiastic about the idea, drill through things
and add some sort of cross piece, eg, a heavy duty cotter pin. Thread
lock seems less permanent than epoxy or welding, so if I need to take
it apart to repair or replace a piece I have that as an option.

How does that plan sound?

Elijah
------
shipping from the razor website is a killer, too

Why not just use a couple radiator hose clamps..the worm screw type
and simply tighten the ******* down?


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In rec.crafts.metalworking, Gunner Asch gunnerasch AT gmail.com wrote:
Eli the Bearded wrote:
My youngest has a Razor Scooter, looking something like this one:
http://www.target.com/p/razor-ultra-...r/-/A-11893958
....
The razor website sells replacement collars that use four of those screws,
for a better hold. Alas, those are for a different model and the collars
are a few mm too small.
Why not just use a couple radiator hose clamps..the worm screw type
and simply tighten the ******* down?

Here's a picture of the four screw collar that I mentioned:

http://shop.razor.com/Pro-Series-Quad-Clamp/

You think hose clamps will compete with the two screw version of that? I
think you don't understand the problem at all.

Anyway, red locktite applied. Holding so far, but so far hasn't been long
yet. Drill and cotterpin will probably be next tact.

Elijah
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"a few mm too small" above refers to diameter

On Friday, September 13, 2013 1:31:00 PM UTC-7, Eli the Bearded wrote:
My youngest has a Razor Scooter, looking something like this one:



http://www.target.com/p/razor-ultra-...r/-/A-11893958



The handle bar is a single piece T shape that slips on to a groved (looks

threaded, but seems to be a series of parallel notches) stem in the base.

Then a collar with two 7mm socket cap screws (a very difficult item for

me to find for sale) that secure the collar and clamp the bottom of the

T to the stem.



The problem is that the handlebar doesn't stay aligned with the wheel.

A bump or a crack will twist the wheel one way while the handlebar is

going the other, and oops, out of alignment.



The razor website sells replacement collars that use four of those screws,

for a better hold. Alas, those are for a different model and the collars

are a few mm too small.



I was thinking of taking it apart and applying red thread lock (loctite)

on the groves of the stem so that it gets second way of securing to the

handlebars.



I could, but am not enthusiastic about the idea, drill through things

and add some sort of cross piece, eg, a heavy duty cotter pin. Thread

lock seems less permanent than epoxy or welding, so if I need to take

it apart to repair or replace a piece I have that as an option.



How does that plan sound?



Elijah

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shipping from the razor website is a killer, too

seat post clamps on bicycles are a another type of "collar clamp". If you type in collar clamp in a search, that should get you to all types of the devices. Another thing, in the picture of the scooter from the target website, the slot cut in the tube doesn't line up with the opening in the clamp. So the clamping effect would be not at its best. Pat