On 4/28/2013 5:17 PM, Ignoramus11949 wrote:
Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i


There aren't all that many sane people around any more, Ig.

Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i

Ignoramus11949 wrote:

Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i

The gullible span the political spectrum, and tend to shift back and
forth across it due to their gullibility and whoever has convinced them
to shift left or right at any particular time. From what I've seen there
is a tendency for them to shift to the left to join the FSA since it
seems easier than actually working. The 420 set fits this well since
their few remaining brain cells lead them to think that everything
should be free.

Now for my plug for a non bogus book I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/987..._ya_os_product

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:49:11 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 4/28/2013 5:17 PM, Ignoramus11949 wrote:
Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i


There aren't all that many sane people around any more, Ig.

I'm not sure that there ever were.... Just that the Internet makes it
so apparent :-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:17:43 -0500, Ignoramus11949
wrote:

Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i

So you are not reading any lefty sites? Those very same ads appear
all over the Leftwing blogs and sites.

WTF...are you really that blind and stupid?

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:49:11 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 4/28/2013 5:17 PM, Ignoramus11949 wrote:
Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i


There aren't all that many sane people around any more, Ig.

Sure there are. But they keep their heads down, their mouths shut and
try desperately to find something to eat.

On 2013-04-29, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:49:11 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 4/28/2013 5:17 PM, Ignoramus11949 wrote:
Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i


There aren't all that many sane people around any more, Ig.

Sure there are. But they keep their heads down, their mouths shut and
try desperately to find something to eat.



I am trying desperately to eat less.

i

On 2013-04-28, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus11949 wrote:

Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i

The gullible span the political spectrum, and tend to shift back and
forth across it due to their gullibility and whoever has convinced them
to shift left or right at any particular time. From what I've seen there
is a tendency for them to shift to the left to join the FSA since it
seems easier than actually working. The 420 set fits this well since
their few remaining brain cells lead them to think that everything
should be free.

Now for my plug for a non bogus book I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/987..._ya_os_product

I just bought it, hope I will have time to read it.

i

On 4/29/2013 11:14 AM, Pete C. wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Now for my plug for a non bogus book I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/987..._ya_os_product

Is it worth the $25? Or was his get-rich-quick scheme to write a book
and charge a lot for it?g

I think it is, since it's in depth coverage of the Argentine economic
collapse and the ongoing results of that collapse, something the media
hasn't covered. The collapse was 2001 and here we are in 2013 and there
has been *no* recovery in Argentina, more than half the population is
below the poverty line, etc. The rumblings over the Falkland islands
recently had nothing to do with the islands, but rather were an attempt
by the Argentine government to distract the populace from the total
failure to rebuild the economy. It's important stuff to understand since
there are strong signs the same is headed our way (Greece, Spain,
Cypress, etc.). If anything Argentina shows how recovery will not be
remotely quick.


Time Business and Money April 5, 2013

....
As the recent crisis in Cyprus demonstrates, a minor dislocation can
become a threat to the entire global financial system overnight.

The U.S. is deeply troubled too. Deficits remain enormous, and the
checks and balances of the political system have turned into a logjam.

In a new book, David Stockman, President Ronald Reagan’s budget
director, chronicles the relentless downward spiral of America’s
political and financial systems. He concludes: “The future is bleak …
When the latest bubble pops, there will be nothing to stop the
collapse.”
....

http://business.time.com/2013/04/05/is-the-global-economy-slowly-falling-apart/

"Ignoramus11949" wrote in
message ...

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be
extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?
WTF?
i

I think they may be targeting the elderly instead of conservatives in
general. Look at periodicals aimed at typically younger outdoorsmen.
The alternate-energy material I read leans toward the feel-good left
and is also filled with scams aimed at wishful readers who lack a
scientific education.

We grew up learning to evaluate and ignore commercial propaganda just
as you did the government's. I saw yours first-hand in the "Soviet
Life" magazine I subscribed to.

jsw

On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 17:38:14 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Ignoramus11949 wrote:

Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

Everyone bends to their particular weakness when something states
things which are in line with the person's world view.


I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

And progressives buy the stuff advertised in progressive pubs. shrug


The gullible span the political spectrum, and tend to shift back and
forth across it due to their gullibility and whoever has convinced them
to shift left or right at any particular time. From what I've seen there
is a tendency for them to shift to the left to join the FSA since it
seems easier than actually working. The 420 set fits this well since
their few remaining brain cells lead them to think that everything
should be free.

Now for my plug for a non bogus book I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/987..._ya_os_product

Is it worth the $25? Or was his get-rich-quick scheme to write a book
and charge a lot for it? g

--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill

Larry Jaques wrote:

Now for my plug for a non bogus book I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/987..._ya_os_product

Is it worth the $25? Or was his get-rich-quick scheme to write a book
and charge a lot for it? g

I think it is, since it's in depth coverage of the Argentine economic
collapse and the ongoing results of that collapse, something the media
hasn't covered. The collapse was 2001 and here we are in 2013 and there
has been *no* recovery in Argentina, more than half the population is
below the poverty line, etc. The rumblings over the Falkland islands
recently had nothing to do with the islands, but rather were an attempt
by the Argentine government to distract the populace from the total
failure to rebuild the economy. It's important stuff to understand since
there are strong signs the same is headed our way (Greece, Spain,
Cypress, etc.). If anything Argentina shows how recovery will not be
remotely quick.

On Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:14:24 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:49:11 -0500, Richard

There aren't all that many sane people around any more, Ig.

Sure there are. But they keep their heads down, their mouths shut and
try desperately to find something to eat.

Well that "mouths shut" criterion certainly leaves you out of the "sane" group, doesn't it, gumball.

On Apr 28, 5:17*pm, Ignoramus11949 ignoramus11...@NOSPAM.
11949.invalid wrote:
Whenb I browse the web to read news, I often see paid advertisements
that are disguised as news links (example "Why Billionaires are
dumping their stocks").

Those often lead to NewsMax, and feature very scripted, uncritical
infomercials, disguised as interviews. Those infomercials sell bogus
financial books (such as "Aftershock") and subscriptions.

Any half sane person any decline to pay any money for any of those
books and services, just because of the way they are dishonestly
advertised. And yet, advertising continues unabated, no doubt because
it actually works.

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?

WTF?

i

You are correct Ig.

Conservatives ARE more guillble than the general public.

They are as a groups less educated...much less.

They are subject to reacting on emotion rather than intellect...fear,
guilt, that is why you see the Flag and the Cross used so much to sway
them.

They love the Faux Network while hating PBS.

If my goal in life was to just make easy money, I would target
conservatives...easy pickings.

TMT

On Apr 29, 11:50*am, rangerssuck wrote:
On Sunday, April 28, 2013 8:14:24 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 28 Apr 2013 05:49:11 -0500, Richard
There aren't all that many sane people around any more, Ig.
Sure there are. *But they keep their heads down, their mouths shut and
try desperately to find something to eat.

Well that "mouths shut" criterion certainly leaves you out of the "sane" group, doesn't it, gumball.

Laugh..laugh..laugh...

TMT

On 2013-04-29, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Ignoramus11949" wrote in
message ...

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be
extremely
annoying. But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible. In other words, if snake oil is advertised in a
"conservative" publication, then conservatives buy it uncritically?
WTF?
i

I think they may be targeting the elderly instead of conservatives in
general. Look at periodicals aimed at typically younger outdoorsmen.
The alternate-energy material I read leans toward the feel-good left
and is also filled with scams aimed at wishful readers who lack a
scientific education.

We grew up learning to evaluate and ignore commercial propaganda just
as you did the government's. I saw yours first-hand in the "Soviet
Life" magazine I subscribed to.

jsw



Yes, maybe it is indeed an elderly scam. Who else is so worried about
their savings. What those promoters recommended when the book was
published 4 years ago or so, was to sell all stocks and real estate
and to "invest" in long term put options on stocks.

The book is available for free at

http://joomlaserverhost.com/misctrad...Me ltdown.pdf

They also offer an array of paid "services" to help their clients part
with their money.

I agree that plenty of people are naturally resistant to such scams,
but I am also sure that the promoters would not fund advertising if it
did not bring them additional incremental profit.

i

On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:14:23 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

Now for my plug for a non bogus book I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/987..._ya_os_product

Is it worth the $25? Or was his get-rich-quick scheme to write a book
and charge a lot for it? g

I think it is, since it's in depth coverage of the Argentine economic
collapse and the ongoing results of that collapse, something the media
hasn't covered.

REAL DATA? Nah, the media don't cover that. sigh


The collapse was 2001 and here we are in 2013 and there
has been *no* recovery in Argentina, more than half the population is
below the poverty line, etc. The rumblings over the Falkland islands
recently had nothing to do with the islands, but rather were an attempt
by the Argentine government to distract the populace from the total
failure to rebuild the economy. It's important stuff to understand since
there are strong signs the same is headed our way (Greece, Spain,
Cypress, etc.). If anything Argentina shows how recovery will not be
remotely quick.

I've just been reading the online pages at Amazon and will likely buy
the book, too. It sure sounds non-bogus so far, after reading the
TOC. I really don't like the price (preferring to nab $100 books for
a buck), especially because it came from what is/was de turd world,
but if it can head us off from that same potentiality, it may be well
worth it. Thanks for the heads-up.

--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill

Ignoramus11949 wrote:

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying.

So what's so hard about using Firefox and adblock-plus?


But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible.

You wonder, indeed. You just established that they advertise in things you
read yourself, which are probably not very conservative, and that the
advertising is successful.


--

Reply in group, but if emailing remove the last word.

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:14:23 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

Now for my plug for a non bogus book I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/987..._ya_os_product

Is it worth the $25? Or was his get-rich-quick scheme to write a book
and charge a lot for it? g

I think it is, since it's in depth coverage of the Argentine economic
collapse and the ongoing results of that collapse, something the media
hasn't covered.

REAL DATA? Nah, the media don't cover that. sigh

Well, the media did cover the Argentina collapse in 2001, what they
haven't done is any followup which would point out the total lack of
recovery, or forensic analysis to show the details of why the collapse
occurred (same reasons our collapse is coming).


The collapse was 2001 and here we are in 2013 and there
has been *no* recovery in Argentina, more than half the population is
below the poverty line, etc. The rumblings over the Falkland islands
recently had nothing to do with the islands, but rather were an attempt
by the Argentine government to distract the populace from the total
failure to rebuild the economy. It's important stuff to understand since
there are strong signs the same is headed our way (Greece, Spain,
Cypress, etc.). If anything Argentina shows how recovery will not be
remotely quick.

I've just been reading the online pages at Amazon and will likely buy
the book, too. It sure sounds non-bogus so far, after reading the
TOC. I really don't like the price (preferring to nab $100 books for
a buck), especially because it came from what is/was de turd world,
but if it can head us off from that same potentiality, it may be well
worth it. Thanks for the heads-up.

Self published books are a bit more, there is a section in the book
covering that and the commentary received from publishers who wanted the
book "toned down" from the reality it was covering. Don't think the book
will head anything off, that's not what it's about, it's about
understanding what is coming (SHTF vs. EOTWAWKI) and how to adapt to
survive the best in that new more than half the population in poverty
reality.

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 06:43:37 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:14:23 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

Now for my plug for a non bogus book I recommend:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/987..._ya_os_product

Is it worth the $25? Or was his get-rich-quick scheme to write a book
and charge a lot for it? g

I think it is, since it's in depth coverage of the Argentine economic
collapse and the ongoing results of that collapse, something the media
hasn't covered.

REAL DATA? Nah, the media don't cover that. sigh

Well, the media did cover the Argentina collapse in 2001, what they
haven't done is any followup which would point out the total lack of
recovery, or forensic analysis to show the details of why the collapse
occurred (same reasons our collapse is coming).

That might scare people. You know they're against doing that. g

It would also require in-depth investigation and analysis, which they,
evidently, no longer have any capability for whatsoever.


The collapse was 2001 and here we are in 2013 and there
has been *no* recovery in Argentina, more than half the population is
below the poverty line, etc. The rumblings over the Falkland islands
recently had nothing to do with the islands, but rather were an attempt
by the Argentine government to distract the populace from the total
failure to rebuild the economy. It's important stuff to understand since
there are strong signs the same is headed our way (Greece, Spain,
Cypress, etc.). If anything Argentina shows how recovery will not be
remotely quick.

I've just been reading the online pages at Amazon and will likely buy
the book, too. It sure sounds non-bogus so far, after reading the
TOC. I really don't like the price (preferring to nab $100 books for
a buck), especially because it came from what is/was de turd world,
but if it can head us off from that same potentiality, it may be well
worth it. Thanks for the heads-up.

Self published books are a bit more, there is a section in the book
covering that and the commentary received from publishers who wanted the
book "toned down" from the reality it was covering. Don't think the book
will head anything off, that's not what it's about, it's about
understanding what is coming (SHTF vs. EOTWAWKI) and how to adapt to
survive the best in that new more than half the population in poverty
reality.

Check.

--
However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
-- Sir Winston Churchill

On 2013-04-30, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

Ignoramus11949 wrote:

I find the sheer volume of all this false advertising to be extremely
annoying.

So what's so hard about using Firefox and adblock-plus?


But additionally, I wonder if they place those ads in
conservative magazines because conservaties are particularly
gullible.

You wonder, indeed. You just established that they advertise in things you
read yourself, which are probably not very conservative, and that the
advertising is successful.

I do read Fox News almost every day (among other things), but they do,
indeed, advertise everywhere.

i