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What is the BEST bbq paint? I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded
original paint. Just want something that will take high heat. This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve |
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On 25/03/2013 01:43, Steve B wrote:
What is the BEST bbq paint? I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. Just want something that will take high heat. This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve I imagine powder coating would burn off first time its used. What about automotive VHT exhaust / extractor paint? Or if its just for the cover automotive engine enamel? |
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"Steve B" wrote: What is the BEST bbq paint? I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. Just want something that will take high heat. This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve Don't know about the paint... However, when it comes time to get a replacement, spend a few extra bucks and get a Webber. They come with a porcelain finish. I have one of their little 'Smokey Joe' BBQ's thats been in the elements for 25 years or so. Other than it's wood handle being badly weathered, and 3 1/4-20 leg bolts that should probably be replaced, it looks and works great! Since new it's probably averaged 2 uses a month, year round, and now has a 3/16" layer of burned on grease/smoke that acts as a wonderful insulator. I replaced the grill rack a few years ago. Believe it or not, HD had the for real Webber replacement in stock... nice heavy, well made, well plated. Good luck! Erik |
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Steve B wrote:
What is the BEST bbq paint? I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. Just want something that will take high heat. This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve Powder won't take the heat. The only spray on stuff that I have used that held up long was Forrest Paints Stove Bright. The key to it is to apply THIN coats, then cure the paint by heating the unit up to around 400 degrees and keeping it therefor a while, then cranking it up to 600 for a while longer. One way to keep the paint in better shape is to install a double wall either inside or outside the current sides. One of my fist small smokers was a simple box type. It worked but any breeze would make the temps bounce. I ended up getting some high temp insulation and wrapping it. Then made a stainless shell around that. Temp control is MUCH better and it uses less fuel as well. When I built my bigger ones I used the same idea where I could. -- Steve W. |
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"Steve B" fired this volley in news:kioo5i$nfl$1
@speranza.aioe.org: This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. Willy Wonka had something to say about statements like that! G You didn't say what the underlying metal was, but if you have a way to actually bring the whole thing up to temperatures high enough to cure it, you might consider manifold paint. LLoyd |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:43:15 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: What is the BEST bbq paint? I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. Just want something that will take high heat. This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve Rustoleum makes..or used to make a high temperature BBQ paint just for this repair. Id imagine its similar to exhaust manifold paint, of which several are ceramic based paints. Ive done a number of BBQs over the past 40 yrs..and I started using the BBQ paint about 20 yrs ago with very good luck Gunner |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:43:15 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: What is the BEST bbq paint? I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. Just want something that will take high heat. This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve Kylon 1300* Ceramic header paint is supposed to be better than Rustoleum. A quick google confirmed it to be better according to many home shop mechanics Cerakote is marvelous stuff according to a mechanic buddy..but its not cheap. http://www.cerakotehightemp.com/ Supposedly the best bang for the buck is this stuff http://www.tcpglobal.com/spraypaintd...mperature.aspx the VHT Flame Proof. No idea if it really works as advertised or not. Gunner |
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:43:15 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: What is the BEST bbq paint? I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. Just want something that will take high heat. This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve Definitely NOT powder coat. What you want is a ceramic coating. Ceramicoat header paint would likely work pretty good if you can do the prep work right - otherwise send it out for "Jet Coat" ceramic coating or equivalent. |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... What is the BEST bbq paint? I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. Just want something that will take high heat. This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. Should I take it and have it powder coated? Suggest go with the powder coat. Also, sprinkle some arsenic on your food before smoking....yum yum, magically delicious... |
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On Mar 25, 6:21*pm, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote: "Steve B" wrote in ... What is the BEST bbq paint? *I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. *Just want something that will take high heat. *This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. *I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. *Should I take it and have it powder coated? Suggest go with the powder coat. Also, sprinkle some arsenic on your food before smoking....yum yum, magically delicious... Steve B should buy some lead paint from iggy. This way he can save a lot of money. |
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On Mar 24, 11:43*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
What is the BEST bbq paint? *I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. *Just want something that will take high heat. *This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. *I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. *Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve Is it going to sit in exposed conditions all the time? Or is it under cover? Some of the BBQ paint works well for heat but sucks for keeping rust away if it's rained on/snowed on all the time. To get a proper cure, it ALL has to get run up to 500-600 degrees, not just the parts around the fire box. A heat lamp just isn't going to do it. If it's not all cured to the same degree, eventually it flakes off. The best stuff you can't get anymore, CA CARB regs killed it for the rest of the country. Best stuff I've used recently was for car/truck exhausts and was rated to 1500 degrees, Krylon is what you'll find most places. Miot every other brand is gone from the market. Check your local car parts place. Ceramic coating seems to be the fad of the day, haven't used it myself. Powder coating isn't magic, it's just plastic of one form or another and will char off if heated, if rust doesn't get under it first. Good for aluminum trim parts, though. Stan |
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On Mar 26, 2:26*pm, Stanley Schaefer wrote:
On Mar 24, 11:43*pm, "Steve B" wrote: What is the BEST bbq paint? *I am redoing a Brinkman smoker, mostly sanded original paint. *Just want something that will take high heat. *This is a smoker, and not a grill, and will be subject to high heat of charcoal. *I know nothing is perfect, but I'd like to have it done so that I don't have to dink with it for a while. *Should I take it and have it powder coated? Steve Is it going to sit in exposed conditions all the time? Or is it under cover? *Some of the BBQ paint works well for heat but sucks for keeping rust away if it's rained on/snowed on all the time. *To get a proper cure, it ALL has to get run up to 500-600 degrees, not just the parts around the fire box. *A heat lamp just isn't going to do it. If it's not all cured to the same degree, eventually it flakes off. *The best stuff you can't get anymore, CA CARB regs killed it for the rest of the country. *Best stuff I've used recently was for car/truck exhausts and was rated to 1500 degrees, Krylon is what you'll find most places. *Miot every other brand is gone from the market. *Check your local car parts place. *Ceramic coating seems to be the fad of the day, haven't used it myself. Powder coating isn't magic, it's just plastic of one form or another and will char off if heated, if rust doesn't get under it first. *Good for aluminum trim parts, though. Stan Power coating is good for a hell of a lot more than aluminum parts! For example, powder coating is great on steel car and motorcycle frames. Powder coating is far more durable than the best polyurethane paint (If you're old like me think Dupont Imron) because it doesn't chip nearly as easily. |
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jon_banquer wrote:
Powder coating isn't magic, it's just plastic of one form or another and will char off if heated, if rust doesn't get under it first. Good for aluminum trim parts, though. Stan Power coating is good for a hell of a lot more than aluminum parts! For example, powder coating is great on steel car and motorcycle frames. Powder coating is far more durable than the best polyurethane paint (If you're old like me think Dupont Imron) because it doesn't chip nearly as easily. SOME powder types will resist impact well. Others will chip and fail easily. A lot of the durability of both relies on the substrate and surface prep. If done correctly a good liquid will last as long as a good powder. There are some areas where powder has the edge. Ease of application, reuse of over spray, environmental concerns being the big ones. In the case of a BBQ, any conventional powder would be off the list before it started. Now if you wanted to add in ceramics or metal sprays then those "powders" would work. BUT this is not a high dollar unit and I'm doubtful if the OP wants to spend about 5 times what his smoker costs new to paint the old one. -- Steve W. |
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On Mar 26, 9:44*pm, "Steve W." wrote:
jon_banquer wrote: Powder coating isn't magic, it's just plastic of one form or another and will char off if heated, if rust doesn't get under it first. *Good for aluminum trim parts, though. Stan Power coating is good for a hell of a lot more than aluminum parts! For example, powder coating is great on steel car and motorcycle frames. Powder coating is far more durable than the best polyurethane paint (If you're old like me think Dupont Imron) because it doesn't chip nearly as easily. SOME powder types will resist impact well. Others will chip and fail easily. A lot of the durability of both relies on the substrate and surface prep. If done correctly a good liquid will last as long as a good powder. There are some areas where powder has the edge. Ease of application, reuse of over spray, environmental concerns being the big ones. In the case of a BBQ, any conventional powder would be off the list before it started. Now if you wanted to add in ceramics or metal sprays then those "powders" would work. BUT this is not a high dollar unit and I'm doubtful if the OP wants to spend about 5 times what his smoker costs new to paint the old one. -- Steve W. The OP is a clueless moron who takes up space. |
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The BBQ paint is high temp paint. Gosh 400 degrees is
powder coat temp and you might have a liquid surface with powder. I think the BBQ paint is similar or the same as Header paint. Ceramic based color. Martin On 3/26/2013 11:44 PM, Steve W. wrote: jon_banquer wrote: Powder coating isn't magic, it's just plastic of one form or another and will char off if heated, if rust doesn't get under it first. Good for aluminum trim parts, though. Stan Power coating is good for a hell of a lot more than aluminum parts! For example, powder coating is great on steel car and motorcycle frames. Powder coating is far more durable than the best polyurethane paint (If you're old like me think Dupont Imron) because it doesn't chip nearly as easily. SOME powder types will resist impact well. Others will chip and fail easily. A lot of the durability of both relies on the substrate and surface prep. If done correctly a good liquid will last as long as a good powder. There are some areas where powder has the edge. Ease of application, reuse of over spray, environmental concerns being the big ones. In the case of a BBQ, any conventional powder would be off the list before it started. Now if you wanted to add in ceramics or metal sprays then those "powders" would work. BUT this is not a high dollar unit and I'm doubtful if the OP wants to spend about 5 times what his smoker costs new to paint the old one. |
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