I help coach the MIT collegiate pistol team, and we have a number of
Swiss Hammerli 480K air pistols that I believe were obtained second hand
from West Point in the distant past. These use high pressure compressed
air, and are filled from SCUBA tanks.

http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spha480k.htm

We have a variety of fill adapters. Most are single piece ones that
require removing the tank from the pistol, and then screwing the tank
into the adapter. We also have a couple that have a rotating seal so you
can easily fill the tanks while they are still on the pistol. They also
each have a short flexible hose that makes it less likely to damage
anything. The hoses are quite different, one being small & short, and the
other longer & much fatter. I have no idea if these were ever a Hammerli
product, or were something that someone put together on their own.

In any event, the one with the skinny hose started leaking, and when we
tried to tighten that connection, it broke. We disconnected the other end
of the hose, and it has a very odd fitting. Then again, I'm not used to
working with 2000 PSI hose fittings, so maybe it's quite normal...

Here's a pictu
http://users.rcn.com/gwhite/Misc/Dea...ll_Adapter.jpg

Does anyone have any insight on this thing? The long skinny threaded
piece visible on the right hand end is broken off inside the hose on the
left. If I can figure out how to remove the broken fitting on the left
end, and get a new connector & hose, I may be able to resurrect it.
However, in addition to being high pressure stuff, I'm assuming all the
threads are metric, and I suspect getting parts in the US will be
difficult at best.

Thanks!

Doug White

On 13/01/2013 11:05 AM, Doug White wrote:
I help coach the MIT collegiate pistol team, and we have a number of
Swiss Hammerli 480K air pistols that I believe were obtained second hand
from West Point in the distant past. These use high pressure compressed
air, and are filled from SCUBA tanks.

http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spha480k.htm

We have a variety of fill adapters. Most are single piece ones that
require removing the tank from the pistol, and then screwing the tank
into the adapter. We also have a couple that have a rotating seal so you
can easily fill the tanks while they are still on the pistol. They also
each have a short flexible hose that makes it less likely to damage
anything. The hoses are quite different, one being small & short, and the
other longer & much fatter. I have no idea if these were ever a Hammerli
product, or were something that someone put together on their own.

In any event, the one with the skinny hose started leaking, and when we
tried to tighten that connection, it broke. We disconnected the other end
of the hose, and it has a very odd fitting. Then again, I'm not used to
working with 2000 PSI hose fittings, so maybe it's quite normal...

Here's a pictu
http://users.rcn.com/gwhite/Misc/Dea...ll_Adapter.jpg

Does anyone have any insight on this thing? The long skinny threaded
piece visible on the right hand end is broken off inside the hose on the
left. If I can figure out how to remove the broken fitting on the left
end, and get a new connector & hose, I may be able to resurrect it.
However, in addition to being high pressure stuff, I'm assuming all the
threads are metric, and I suspect getting parts in the US will be
difficult at best.

Thanks!

Doug White


Not that thsi will help you much.....I once did a course on hydraulics
at tech school. Those look like replaceable high pressure couplings -
the thread, spiral or what ever you want to call it could be anything
the manufacturer designed it to be.

Perhaps try talking to someone at one of those high pressure "hose
doctor" type places.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:05:03 GMT, Doug White
wrote:

I help coach the MIT collegiate pistol team, and we have a number of
Swiss Hammerli 480K air pistols that I believe were obtained second hand
from West Point in the distant past. These use high pressure compressed
air, and are filled from SCUBA tanks.

http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spha480k.htm

We have a variety of fill adapters. Most are single piece ones that
require removing the tank from the pistol, and then screwing the tank
into the adapter. We also have a couple that have a rotating seal so you
can easily fill the tanks while they are still on the pistol. They also
each have a short flexible hose that makes it less likely to damage
anything. The hoses are quite different, one being small & short, and the
other longer & much fatter. I have no idea if these were ever a Hammerli
product, or were something that someone put together on their own.

In any event, the one with the skinny hose started leaking, and when we
tried to tighten that connection, it broke. We disconnected the other end
of the hose, and it has a very odd fitting. Then again, I'm not used to
working with 2000 PSI hose fittings, so maybe it's quite normal...

Here's a pictu
http://users.rcn.com/gwhite/Misc/Dea...ll_Adapter.jpg

Does anyone have any insight on this thing? The long skinny threaded
piece visible on the right hand end is broken off inside the hose on the
left. If I can figure out how to remove the broken fitting on the left
end, and get a new connector & hose, I may be able to resurrect it.
However, in addition to being high pressure stuff, I'm assuming all the
threads are metric, and I suspect getting parts in the US will be
difficult at best.

Thanks!

Doug White

Looks like an old Weatherhead fitting, but the ones I used were on
pneumatic signal lines, not high pressure. They're still around,
bought by Eaton, might look through their products.

http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsS...head/index.htm

Good luck.

Pete Keillor

Pete Keillor wrote in
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:05:03 GMT, Doug White
wrote:

I help coach the MIT collegiate pistol team, and we have a number of
Swiss Hammerli 480K air pistols that I believe were obtained second
hand from West Point in the distant past. These use high pressure
compressed air, and are filled from SCUBA tanks.

http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spha480k.htm

We have a variety of fill adapters. Most are single piece ones that
require removing the tank from the pistol, and then screwing the tank
into the adapter. We also have a couple that have a rotating seal so
you can easily fill the tanks while they are still on the pistol.
They also each have a short flexible hose that makes it less likely to
damage anything. The hoses are quite different, one being small &
short, and the other longer & much fatter. I have no idea if these
were ever a Hammerli product, or were something that someone put
together on their own.

In any event, the one with the skinny hose started leaking, and when
we tried to tighten that connection, it broke. We disconnected the
other end of the hose, and it has a very odd fitting. Then again, I'm
not used to working with 2000 PSI hose fittings, so maybe it's quite
normal...

Here's a pictu
http://users.rcn.com/gwhite/Misc/Dea...ll_Adapter.jpg

Does anyone have any insight on this thing? The long skinny threaded
piece visible on the right hand end is broken off inside the hose on
the left. If I can figure out how to remove the broken fitting on the
left end, and get a new connector & hose, I may be able to resurrect
it. However, in addition to being high pressure stuff, I'm assuming
all the threads are metric, and I suspect getting parts in the US will
be difficult at best.

Thanks!

Doug White

Looks like an old Weatherhead fitting, but the ones I used were on
pneumatic signal lines, not high pressure. They're still around,
bought by Eaton, might look through their products.

http://www.eaton.com/Eaton/ProductsS...e/Weatherhead/
index.htm

Good luck.

Thanks! I looked through the Eaton high pressure hose fittings, and
didn't see anything that looked right. The hose certainly looks like
hydraulic hose, but I find it hard to believe anything industrial would
rely on the skinny threaded bits used. I'm amazed it has survived this
long.

Doug White

Doug White wrote:

I help coach the MIT collegiate pistol team, and we have a number of
Swiss Hammerli 480K air pistols that I believe were obtained second hand
from West Point in the distant past. These use high pressure compressed
air, and are filled from SCUBA tanks.

http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spha480k.htm

We have a variety of fill adapters. Most are single piece ones that
require removing the tank from the pistol, and then screwing the tank
into the adapter. We also have a couple that have a rotating seal so you
can easily fill the tanks while they are still on the pistol. They also
each have a short flexible hose that makes it less likely to damage
anything. The hoses are quite different, one being small & short, and the
other longer & much fatter. I have no idea if these were ever a Hammerli
product, or were something that someone put together on their own.

In any event, the one with the skinny hose started leaking, and when we
tried to tighten that connection, it broke. We disconnected the other end
of the hose, and it has a very odd fitting. Then again, I'm not used to
working with 2000 PSI hose fittings, so maybe it's quite normal...

Here's a pictu
http://users.rcn.com/gwhite/Misc/Dea...ll_Adapter.jpg

Does anyone have any insight on this thing? The long skinny threaded
piece visible on the right hand end is broken off inside the hose on the
left. If I can figure out how to remove the broken fitting on the left
end, and get a new connector & hose, I may be able to resurrect it.
However, in addition to being high pressure stuff, I'm assuming all the
threads are metric, and I suspect getting parts in the US will be
difficult at best.

Thanks!

Doug White

Do a quick search in the paintball world, from what I hear they have
been switching away from CO2 and over to HP air. SCUBA cylinders are
typically 3,000 PSI BTW.

On Jan 12, 8:05*pm, Doug White wrote:
I help coach the MIT collegiate pistol team, and we have a number of
Swiss Hammerli 480K air pistols that I believe were obtained second hand
from West Point in the distant past. *These use high pressure compressed
air, and are filled from SCUBA tanks.

http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spha480k.htm

We have a variety of fill adapters. *Most are single piece ones that
require removing the tank from the pistol, and then screwing the tank
into the adapter. *We also have a couple that have a rotating seal so you
can easily fill the tanks while they are still on the pistol. *They also
each have a short flexible hose that makes it less likely to damage
anything. The hoses are quite different, one being small & short, and the
other longer & much fatter. I have no idea if these were ever a Hammerli
product, or were something that someone put together on their own.

In any event, the one with the skinny hose started leaking, and when we
tried to tighten that connection, it broke. We disconnected the other end
of the hose, and it has a very odd fitting. Then again, I'm not used to
working with 2000 PSI hose fittings, so maybe it's quite normal...

Here's a pictuhttp://users.rcn.com/gwhite/Misc/Dea...ll_Adapter.jpg

Does anyone have any insight on this thing? The long skinny threaded
piece visible on the right hand end is broken off inside the hose on the
left. If I can figure out how to remove the broken fitting on the left
end, and get a new connector & hose, I may be able to resurrect it.
However, in addition to being high pressure stuff, I'm assuming all the
threads are metric, and I suspect getting parts in the US will be
difficult at best.

Thanks!

Doug White

Chances are that's it's something proprietary, what with it being old
and all. Precharged air guns have been slowly consolidating on-the-
gun fittings, but there's no "official" standard, every maker did
their own thing. See what www.pyramydair.com has, they import a bunch
of different brands and may have what you need or know where it could
be had. Might be some match airgun sites you could post a query on,
too. Chances of it being something US standard or European standard
are nil. An adapter to a more standard filler whip might be the
answer as well. There were some one-guy operations turning such
things out at one time.

Stan

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 03:05:03 GMT, Doug White
wrote:

I help coach the MIT collegiate pistol team, and we have a number of
Swiss Hammerli 480K air pistols that I believe were obtained second hand
from West Point in the distant past. These use high pressure compressed
air, and are filled from SCUBA tanks.

http://www.pilkguns.com/tenp/spha480k.htm

We have a variety of fill adapters. Most are single piece ones that
require removing the tank from the pistol, and then screwing the tank
into the adapter. We also have a couple that have a rotating seal so you
can easily fill the tanks while they are still on the pistol. They also
each have a short flexible hose that makes it less likely to damage
anything. The hoses are quite different, one being small & short, and the
other longer & much fatter. I have no idea if these were ever a Hammerli
product, or were something that someone put together on their own.

In any event, the one with the skinny hose started leaking, and when we
tried to tighten that connection, it broke. We disconnected the other end
of the hose, and it has a very odd fitting. Then again, I'm not used to
working with 2000 PSI hose fittings, so maybe it's quite normal...

Here's a pictu
http://users.rcn.com/gwhite/Misc/Dea...ll_Adapter.jpg

Does anyone have any insight on this thing? The long skinny threaded
piece visible on the right hand end is broken off inside the hose on the
left. If I can figure out how to remove the broken fitting on the left
end, and get a new connector & hose, I may be able to resurrect it.
However, in addition to being high pressure stuff, I'm assuming all the
threads are metric, and I suspect getting parts in the US will be
difficult at best.

Thanks!

Doug White

The long skinny threaded piece plus the ferrule (not strictly speaking
a ferrule, because it isn't crimped on) that's still on the hose
constitute a reusable hose end. Parker makes the hose ends and a wide
selection of metric fittings and adapters. Parker has all their
catalogs online, but navigating them is painful. If you're not
familiar with this stuff your best bet is a sympathetic counterman at
a Parker hydraulics distributor.

This is the distributor I use, but there has to be a similar place
closer to Cambridge.
http://www.thehopegroup.com/company/...ocations.shtml

Weatherhead, Aeroquip, and maybe Swagelock are other mfrs of similar
fittings.

--
Ned Simmons