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Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less
http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Although companies have focused greater attention on the need for ethical practices over the past few decades, male business professionals who self-report high ethical character earn, on average, 3.4% less than their peers who don't report having such standards, according to an analysis of data on thousands of students by Andrew Hussey of the University of Memphis. Moreover, men who reported that their MBA programs enhanced their ethical standards received 6.5% lower wages than men who reported no such gain. For women, the situation is different: Female professionals who self-report high ethical standards receive no pay penalty, and women who said that their schooling had raised their standards received a premium averaging 5.5%. Source: The effect of ethics on labor market success: Evidence from MBAs |
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"Ignoramus2996" wrote in message
... http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Although companies have focused greater attention on the need for ethical practices over the past few decades, male business professionals who self-report high ethical character earn, on average, *Self-report* high ethical character????? Are you effing kidding?? They proly earn 3.4% less bec they are delusional.... LOL 3.4% less than their peers who don't report having such standards, according to an analysis of data on thousands of students by Andrew Hussey of the University of Memphis. Moreover, men who reported that their MBA programs enhanced their ethical standards received 6.5% lower wages than men who reported no such gain. For women, the situation is different: Female professionals who self-report high ethical standards receive no pay penalty, and women who said that their schooling had raised their standards received a premium averaging 5.5%. Source: The effect of ethics on labor market success: Evidence from MBAs In the current zeitgeist today, truly ethical people are lucky they are not homeless. Unfortunately, most assholes view "paying dey taxes" as responsible and ethical. And paying taxes, in the current scheme of things, is actually un-ethical. And cowardly.... but an understandable cowardice. Sheeit, I pay my taxes, and go into a fukn rage every fukn April. -- EA |
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On Thu, 17 May 2012 09:40:31 -0400, "Existential Angst"
wrote: "Ignoramus2996" wrote in message m... http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Although companies have focused greater attention on the need for ethical practices over the past few decades, male business professionals who self-report high ethical character earn, on average, *Self-report* high ethical character????? Are you effing kidding?? They proly earn 3.4% less bec they are delusional.... LOL That jumped out at me as well. It'd be interesting to know how the study controlled for the obvious problem. Reminds me of the old riddle about the liar and the truth-teller. http://www.bigriddles.com/riddle/a-l...a-truth-teller -- Ned Simmons |
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Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less
On Thu, 17 May 2012 09:54:23 -0400, Ned Simmons wrote:
On Thu, 17 May 2012 09:40:31 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "Ignoramus2996" wrote in message om... http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Although companies have focused greater attention on the need for ethical practices over the past few decades, male business professionals who self-report high ethical character earn, on average, *Self-report* high ethical character????? Are you effing kidding?? They proly earn 3.4% less bec they are delusional.... LOL That jumped out at me as well. It'd be interesting to know how the study controlled for the obvious problem. Reminds me of the old riddle about the liar and the truth-teller. http://www.bigriddles.com/riddle/a-l...a-truth-teller Reports in the press of studies like that never seem to mention such self- selection. And they certainly never seem to take into account the people who just don't answer the survey at all -- they just blithely assume that all the folks who look at the survey, say "pfffft!!" and toss it in the round file are exactly like all the folks with interest and time enough to actually answer the thing. -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com |
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"Existential Angst" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus2996" wrote in message ... http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Although companies have focused greater attention on the need for ethical practices over the past few decades, male business professionals who self-report high ethical character earn, on average, *Self-report* high ethical character????? Are you effing kidding?? They proly earn 3.4% less bec they are delusional.... LOL Not so fast... Implicit is that the higher earners "self-reported" as having lower (or at least average) "ethical standards" 3.4% less than their peers who don't report having such standards, according to an analysis of data on thousands of students by Andrew Hussey of the University of Memphis. Moreover, men who reported that their MBA programs enhanced their ethical standards received 6.5% lower wages than men who reported no such gain. For women, the situation is different: Female professionals who self-report high ethical standards receive no pay penalty, and women who said that their schooling had raised their standards received a premium averaging 5.5%. Source: The effect of ethics on labor market success: Evidence from MBAs In the current zeitgeist today, truly ethical people are lucky they are not homeless. Unfortunately, most assholes view "paying dey taxes" as responsible and ethical. No, assholes who cheat on their taxes need to be punished and any ill-gotten assets confiscated. And paying taxes, in the current scheme of things, is actually un-ethical. And cowardly.... but an understandable cowardice. If you you really think it would be a good thing if everybody simply refused to pay taxes then your head needs examined. Really you do. Sheeit, I pay my taxes, and go into a fukn rage every fukn April. -- EA |
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"Tim Wescott" wrote in message
... On Thu, 17 May 2012 09:54:23 -0400, Ned Simmons wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2012 09:40:31 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "Ignoramus2996" wrote in message news:IradnQ9sEeqWZinSnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews. com... http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Although companies have focused greater attention on the need for ethical practices over the past few decades, male business professionals who self-report high ethical character earn, on average, *Self-report* high ethical character????? Are you effing kidding?? They proly earn 3.4% less bec they are delusional.... LOL That jumped out at me as well. It'd be interesting to know how the study controlled for the obvious problem. Reminds me of the old riddle about the liar and the truth-teller. http://www.bigriddles.com/riddle/a-l...a-truth-teller Reports in the press of studies like that never seem to mention such self- selection. And they certainly never seem to take into account the people who just don't answer the survey at all -- they just blithely assume that all the folks who look at the survey, say "pfffft!!" and toss it in the round file are exactly like all the folks with interest and time enough to actually answer the thing. Most studies you read nowadays are the product of desperate PhDs tryna keep dey useless jobs -- the proverbial publish or perish. It was ALWAYS publish or perish, except previously "quality" -- heh, and honesty -- was implicit. Now, it's any goddammthing, incl, I think, confabulation. Science stopped being science shortly after Watson&Crick -- partic Watson -- stole Linus Pauling's THIRD nobel prize. And Roslyn Franck's, and a bunch of others. Pauling was LITERALLY minutes away from solving the structure. He had ALREADY solved the triple helix of alpha keratin, and had deduced the double helix structure of DNA, except with an inverted backbone. A cupla more minutes with the data Watson had hijacked, and bang...... And there's always the Bogdanoff Bros.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdanov_Affair And their chins: http://www.celebrityplasticsurgery.t...anoff-brothers Science hasn't been the same since. And in the last 20 years, since Big Pharma has infiltrated the University system, just forget it, you cain't hardly believe *textbooks* any more. -- EA -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com |
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"PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in message
news:gpadney4GvD7tCjSnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com... "Existential Angst" wrote in message ... "Ignoramus2996" wrote in message ... http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Although companies have focused greater attention on the need for ethical practices over the past few decades, male business professionals who self-report high ethical character earn, on average, *Self-report* high ethical character????? Are you effing kidding?? They proly earn 3.4% less bec they are delusional.... LOL Not so fast... Implicit is that the higher earners "self-reported" as having lower (or at least average) "ethical standards" The bottom line is that all things being equal, a mutha****a is likely to earn assloads more than non-mutha****as. Whether either KNOWS this or not is pretty effing moot, imo. When yer being ****ed in the ass, introspection is a bit of a low priority, imo. 3.4% less than their peers who don't report having such standards, according to an analysis of data on thousands of students by Andrew Hussey of the University of Memphis. Moreover, men who reported that their MBA programs enhanced their ethical standards received 6.5% lower wages than men who reported no such gain. For women, the situation is different: Female professionals who self-report high ethical standards receive no pay penalty, and women who said that their schooling had raised their standards received a premium averaging 5.5%. Source: The effect of ethics on labor market success: Evidence from MBAs In the current zeitgeist today, truly ethical people are lucky they are not homeless. Unfortunately, most assholes view "paying dey taxes" as responsible and ethical. No, assholes who cheat on their taxes need to be punished and any ill-gotten assets confiscated. And paying taxes, in the current scheme of things, is actually un-ethical. And cowardly.... but an understandable cowardice. If you you really think it would be a good thing if everybody simply refused to pay taxes then your head needs examined. Really you do. The "right" not to pay unjust taxes is right up there with the right to bear arms. Unfortunately, there is no amendment to this effect. And the WAY our taxes are administered/imposed makes virtually ALL of them unjust. Hey, why don't you pay extra, then? I'm sure your CongressWhore has a few concubines who could use, well, a tip.... Will you be needing a happy ending, Sir?? Sure, and here's an extree $50 from ole PMT..... just don't get it in my eye, OK??? -- EA Sheeit, I pay my taxes, and go into a fukn rage every fukn April. -- EA |
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"Existential Angst" wrote in message ... "PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in message news:gpadney4GvD7tCjSnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com... Not so fast... Implicit is that the higher earners "self-reported" as having lower (or at least average) "ethical standards" The bottom line is that all things being equal, a mutha****a is likely to earn assloads more than non-mutha****as. As a society, many of us tend to idolize the rich...that they ( the rich ) would tend towards exploit this anomoly is far from surprising, at least to me. --after all, most of them are probably moderately psychotic individuals to begin with. Whether either KNOWS this or not is pretty effing moot, imo. When yer being ****ed in the ass, introspection is a bit of a low priority, imo. Cheating on your taxes, just because others also do it, doesn't solve the problem. Indeed, it only worsens the situation... In the current zeitgeist today, truly ethical people are lucky they are not homeless. Unfortunately, most assholes view "paying dey taxes" as responsible and ethical. No, assholes who cheat on their taxes need to be punished and any ill-gotten assets confiscated. And paying taxes, in the current scheme of things, is actually un-ethical. And cowardly.... but an understandable cowardice. If you you really think it would be a good thing if everybody simply refused to pay taxes then your head needs examined. Really you do. The "right" not to pay unjust taxes is right up there with the right to bear arms. Unfortunately, there is no amendment to this effect. And the WAY our taxes are administered/imposed makes virtually ALL of them unjust. Jail sandwich=one slice of wheat, one slice of white, with pre-mixed peanut butter and jelly spread in between... Point being, every inmate still thinks HE'S the one that's being treated the most unfairly... I'm sure your CongressWhore has a few concubines who could use, well, a tip... Pretty sure what I'm hearing above is envy, perhaps you should run for office... Will you be needing a happy ending, Sir?? All in all, I fairly happy with government spending, because only rarely does it go directly to places Wal Mart and then suddenly dissapear to points unknown; instead, we usually end up with jobs, roads, bridges and a lot of other nice little things like tanks, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, and so forth... --things that all likelyhood we'd have to do without were it up to folks like Donald Trump ( and apparently, you ) to personally finance... Hey, why don't you pay extra, then? See below... Sure, and here's an extree $50 from ole PMT..... just don't get it in my eye, OK??? What apparently, you fail to understand, is that ( probably ) the both of us are ALREADY paying more--it's just that *we* have no choice in the matter... Whereas there's a small percentage who actually has the option of paying substantially less, and who usually takes it. |
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"PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in message
... "Existential Angst" wrote in message ... "PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in message news:gpadney4GvD7tCjSnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@scnresearch. com... Not so fast... Implicit is that the higher earners "self-reported" as having lower (or at least average) "ethical standards" The bottom line is that all things being equal, a mutha****a is likely to earn assloads more than non-mutha****as. As a society, many of us tend to idolize the rich...that they ( the rich ) would tend towards exploit this anomoly is far from surprising, at least to me. ================================================== ===== Well, there is the Pogo-ism to all this: We are our own enemy. With the PV corollary being: You can only be so much of an asshole/oblivious, without affecting society at large. And we have indeed affected society-at-large. --after all, most of them are probably moderately psychotic individuals to begin with. ================================================== ========= A very asstute point. Not psychotic, but profoundly sociopathic. Whether either KNOWS this or not is pretty effing moot, imo. When yer being ****ed in the ass, introspection is a bit of a low priority, imo. Cheating on your taxes, just because others also do it, doesn't solve the problem. Indeed, it only worsens the situation... ================================================== == Except note that I didn't use the word "cheat". I said, Don't Pay. And, I just closed on a re-fi. I'll bet you didn't know banks were licensed colonoscopists -- except they don't use anaesthesia. Iffin there were anything wrong with my effing taxes, bleeve me, they'da found it. The banks are doing everything they can NOT to give loans. In the current zeitgeist today, truly ethical people are lucky they are not homeless. Unfortunately, most assholes view "paying dey taxes" as responsible and ethical. No, assholes who cheat on their taxes need to be punished and any ill-gotten assets confiscated. And paying taxes, in the current scheme of things, is actually un-ethical. And cowardly.... but an understandable cowardice. If you you really think it would be a good thing if everybody simply refused to pay taxes then your head needs examined. Really you do. The "right" not to pay unjust taxes is right up there with the right to bear arms. Unfortunately, there is no amendment to this effect. And the WAY our taxes are administered/imposed makes virtually ALL of them unjust. Jail sandwich=one slice of wheat, one slice of white, with pre-mixed peanut butter and jelly spread in between... Point being, every inmate still thinks HE'S the one that's being treated the most unfairly... I'm sure your CongressWhore has a few concubines who could use, well, a tip... Pretty sure what I'm hearing above is envy, perhaps you should run for office... ================================================== ===== Do you always confuse contempt with envy? Will you be needing a happy ending, Sir?? All in all, I fairly happy with government spending, because only rarely does it go directly to places Wal Mart and then suddenly dissapear to points unknown; instead, we usually end up with jobs, roads, bridges and a lot of other nice little things like tanks, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, and so forth... --things that all likelyhood we'd have to do without were it up to folks like Donald Trump ( and apparently, you ) to personally finance... Hey, why don't you pay extra, then? See below... Sure, and here's an extree $50 from ole PMT..... just don't get it in my eye, OK??? What apparently, you fail to understand, is that ( probably ) the both of us are ALREADY paying more--it's just that *we* have no choice in the matter... Whereas there's a small percentage who actually has the option of paying substantially less, and who usually takes it. ================================================== ============ We can agree to disagree, in which case you should should turn in your guns, pay double your taxes, and, well, just lube yerself up. Your well-intended rationalized contortions are exactly what has facilitated these political/economic ass-****ings up to our ileocecal valves.... An ass****ing up to the sigmoid colon? Well, that's to be expected. You get that everywhere. But up to the small intestine?? Dats a little too far..... And btw, I don't pretend to have a solution, I don't know that a solution even exists, at this point. I think it's very likely that technology has irreversibly lobotomized the (m)asses. "They" likely have won. But I'm not going to pretend that a rapacious ass****ing is a colonoscopy, either. Recognition is the first step to solving any problem. -- EA |
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Ignoramus2996 wrote:
http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Geez, and we needed to pay somebody several hundred K $ to figure this out?????? Umm, you leave out lawyers, politicians "investment consultants" and you already have skewed the curve. Jon |
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"Jon Elson" wrote in message
... Ignoramus2996 wrote: http://web.hbr.org/email/archive/dai...hp?date=051412 MAY 14, 2012 Male Professionals with Higher Ethical Standards Earn Less Geez, and we needed to pay somebody several hundred K $ to figure this out?????? YUP!!!!!! More, if you factor in university pensions. Don't forget the 10,000 or so scientists who can't agree on how to read an effing thermometer.... They should hire my wife... She can accurately read a thermometer -- of all types -- clear up to 450 F!!! And, of course, don't forget Cold Fusion..... Umm, you leave out lawyers, politicians "investment consultants" and you already have skewed the curve. Here, "ethical" without the preceding "Un-" would indeed be a confabulation. -- EA Jon |
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"Existential Angst" wrote in message ... "PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in message ... I'm sure your CongressWhore has a few concubines who could use, well, a tip... Pretty sure what I'm hearing above is envy, perhaps you should run for office... ================================================== ===== Do you always confuse contempt with envy? Not confused at all...just sayin that oftentimes, envy underlies contempt. |
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