On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 21:09:11 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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What I thought was a
liana of wisteria turned out to be poison oak.

Ick! I used to get poison oak/ivy REAL bad until I went through a
desensitization program (oral tablets). If I just brushed up against
it, I'd have it all over my body by two days hence.

Now, I get a little irritation at the actual site of contact, and once in
a while two or three tiny blisters, but never "area coverage" -- it does
not spread like it used to do.

I rolled in it at one point with a girl at a campfire outing. We went
off into the woods and had fun. She called the next day with it all
over, inside and out. (poor girl!) I told her I had a couple of tiny
bumps on my left forearm, that's it. I felt sorry for her and very,
very happy/lucky for myself.

Once I got up to Oregon, I thought I was still immune to it until I
cut a 3' stick of it down and put it in a bag, wearing latex gloves.
Big problem, even though I took care, knowing what it was. I've had it
4 times up here already. Gaaack! Nasty, but usually less than 10 sq.
in. of it at a time.


I can live - even comfortably - with that.

Do you take the tabs just before ivy season every year, or what? I'm
checking it out now, maybe order some tabs.

I'm going to buy some jewelweed poison ivy soap today as it still
itches somewhat. The liana scratched me and it's a nasty sore there
with a palm sized oozing inflamation trail up my arm which was about
1/4" tall. It's less than 1/8" today and only the sore itches, which
means there's probably some urushiol still in there.
Farkin' weed!

--
Win first, Fight later.

--martial principle of the Samurai

On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 20:38:31 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

"Stormin Mormon" fired this volley in
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EEEEKKK!!! Don't confuse him with facts!!!!!

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Do LDS folks _actually_ get drunk, Stormy?

'Seems you are...

Please don't feed the jesus freak trolls (or quote their sigs.)

--
Win first, Fight later.

--martial principle of the Samurai

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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Do you take the tabs just before ivy season every year, or what? I'm
checking it out now, maybe order some tabs.

I took one four or five week regimen of it almost 30 years ago, and
although my sensitivity slowly increases with time (not being exposed very
often) that was enough.

It's a progressive-dose thing... 1/4 tab a day for a period, then half, up
to two tabs a day... then done for decades of immunity.

LLoyd

On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:06:36 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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Do you take the tabs just before ivy season every year, or what? I'm
checking it out now, maybe order some tabs.

I took one four or five week regimen of it almost 30 years ago, and
although my sensitivity slowly increases with time (not being exposed very
often) that was enough.

It's a progressive-dose thing... 1/4 tab a day for a period, then half, up
to two tabs a day... then done for decades of immunity.

Wow, impressive. Do you remember the name of the product?

--
In the depth of winter, I finally learned
that within me there lay an invincible summer.
-- Albert Camus

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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Wow, impressive. Do you remember the name of the product?

Yes. Aqua Ivy.

Lloyd

On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 09:55:28 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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Wow, impressive. Do you remember the name of the product?

Yes. Aqua Ivy.

http://goo.gl/BYphQ Um, -how- long ago did you say you tried these,
sir? g Note the date on that newspaper ad.

http://www.amazon.com/Hylands-Poison.../dp/B00008CQSY
I'll try the Hylands.

--
In the depth of winter, I finally learned
that within me there lay an invincible summer.
-- Albert Camus

On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 19:15:21 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

That's true if the humidity is high, but if you monitor and control it
temperature swings are less of a problem.

LOL! Good luck with that here.

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

On 2 Jan 2012 04:34:53 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:

Electric heat will not generate moisture -- and you might
discover that you would like a little more humidity -- but your machine
tools would not. :-)

It will not*generate* moisture but warm air will *absorb* moisture.
This will then precipitate on anything colder than the said air, etc.
etc.

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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http://goo.gl/BYphQ Um, -how- long ago did you say you tried these,
sir? g Note the date on that newspaper ad

Yeah, that's probably when they came out. I remember them on the shelves
until the early 80s.

LLoyd

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On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 19:15:21 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

That's true if the humidity is high, but if you monitor and control it
temperature swings are less of a problem.

LOL! Good luck with that here.

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

We have dew points above 70F in the summer here when the wind comes from the
Gulf of Mexico. My air conditioner can barely control the humidity. Then the
jet stream shifts and a much nicer breeze comes in from Hudson's Bay.

Tomorrow we are due for that shift, which is considerably less pleasant in
winter.

jsw

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:

[Aqua Ivy]
... I remember them on the shelves
until the early 80s.

Here's an abstract of a 1959 article on the testing of Aqua Ivy, with
the conclusion that it was quite effective:
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...21870759900826

But then somebody else found it to be "hazardous", on anecdotal basis:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/170/12/1409.extract
which prompted a rebuttal:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/171/5/592.2
and a counter rebuttal:
http://jama.ama-assn.org/content/171/5/592.3.short

"Hazardous" must have prevailed over "effective" because I can't find it
today.

Bob

Bob Engelhardt fired this volley in
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"Hazardous" must have prevailed over "effective" because I can't find
it
today.

We have that "disease" in the U.S. these days... yes.

If it benefits 2 million people, and hurts one, it's a bad thing, and
must be outlawed.

In any case, it sure did the trick for me. If I continue to become more
sensitive with time (as I expect I will) I may re-do the therapy with
whatever version is available today.

LLoyd

On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 19:24:46 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 19:15:21 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

That's true if the humidity is high, but if you monitor and control it
temperature swings are less of a problem.

LOL! Good luck with that here.

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

We have dew points above 70F in the summer here when the wind comes from the
Gulf of Mexico. My air conditioner can barely control the humidity. Then the
jet stream shifts and a much nicer breeze comes in from Hudson's Bay.

Tomorrow we are due for that shift, which is considerably less pleasant in
winter.

Got Snowsuits?

--
In the depth of winter, I finally learned
that within me there lay an invincible summer.
-- Albert Camus

On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:06:55 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Larry Jaques fired this volley in
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http://goo.gl/BYphQ Um, -how- long ago did you say you tried these,
sir? g Note the date on that newspaper ad

Yeah, that's probably when they came out. I remember them on the shelves
until the early 80s.

sigh Why do all the good things that we grew up with (DDT, Aqua
Ivy, REAL roman candles, freedom, honest politicians) go away and all
the crap (rust, Thompson's Waterseal, Minwhacked finishes, AIDS,
dishonest politicians, Rap, Myron Florin music) stay with us forEVER?
deeper sigh

--
In the depth of winter, I finally learned
that within me there lay an invincible summer.
-- Albert Camus

On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:48:24 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Bob Engelhardt fired this volley in
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"Hazardous" must have prevailed over "effective" because I can't find
it
today.

We have that "disease" in the U.S. these days... yes.

If it benefits 2 million people, and hurts one, it's a bad thing, and
must be outlawed.

I'd like to spend a bit of time in a dark alley with a pair of brass
knuckles (or better) with the folks who make that kind of thing
happen. Parents, attorneys, and politicians alike.

--
In the depth of winter, I finally learned
that within me there lay an invincible summer.
-- Albert Camus