Think I've got that problem pretty well taken care of now. The
winters here in central NC aren't bad - not compared to MI winters,
that's for sure. My shop is wood, small, 8X12, and not insulated.

I started out by closing both doors. This help, but still got
chilly. Then the older son gave me one of those oil filled heaters that
look like a radiator. The thing works well enough it would seem, but
also seems to take forever to get warm, and even longer to hat the shop.
I think it would be great for maintain the heat, but for the initial
heating, it sucked.

Then I got one of those little ceramic electric heaters, with a
fan. Doors still closed. Noisy, but puts out heat almost instantly,
and seems to work pretty well. I got the impression it sucked up a lot
of electric tho.

About this time I beliee it was, I got the idea for a plastic strip
door. Probably most of you have seen, or at least seen pictures of,
long clear plastic strips allowing people and machines to pass thru, but
keeping heat or cold from entering or leaving, as the case may be. So
cut some pastic window dovering and hung that. This actually works
quite well. If I redo it I will use couble strips, and wider, next
time. This lets some light in and keeps away the feeling of being in a
large box.

Awhile back got one of the Mr Buddy propane heaters, the small one.
Finally tried it out. Worked nicely. Heat whthin about a minute, and
heat in the sh op going up noticably withing 5-10 minutes. The hard
part then was dedicing where to put it. Finally decided to hang it from
the ceiling, near t he back. Ah, works. With a however. No matter
what anyone tells you, thee is almost always a h owever. This however
was, it was too high. So made a wooden extension to hang from the
wooden hooks I had put up before, so it will hang about 22 inches lower.
That'll put it low enough it'll direct heat at me even when I'm sitting.
And, if it turns out it's a tad too low, it'll be plenty easy enough to
raise it however much is wanted. Behind the heater is the window,
that's cracked open, with a fan blowing air in. The fan is mostly
blocked, so just a small amount of fresh air is coming in, not much to
heat, and it keeps any fumes, and fine dust in the air floating toward
the front, and the plastic strips. This should make those winter days
much more tolerable, even pleasant. Summer is no prob as the shop is
shaded most of the day and the fan keeps air going thru - don' need no
steenkin' air conditionin'.

Oh yeah, I glue up in the house. Even when it's warm enough to
safely do it in the sh op, I generally just do it in the house. Live
is basically good.



JOAT
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Update. I took the entension out and tried it. Worked perfetly,
of course, after all it ain't rocket science. But I hadn't allowed for
the side pieces of the two hooks I'd made, so it hung an inch or so
higher than I'd figured on, and an inch or sor more forward. So, turned
it around. Ah, better, that way is an inch or so lower, and an inch or
so further back. I'm thinking I may cut out enough to allow for the
side pieces of the hooks, which would let it come down an inco or so
more, and let it move back another inch or so, which should b just about
exactly what I want. Some days even things that aren't quite what
you're after still come out right. Life is basically good.



JOAT
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INSULATE INSULATE INSULATE
have you got it


"J T" wrote in message
...
Update. I took the entension out and tried it. Worked perfetly,
of course, after all it ain't rocket science. But I hadn't allowed for
the side pieces of the two hooks I'd made, so it hung an inch or so
higher than I'd figured on, and an inch or sor more forward. So, turned
it around. Ah, better, that way is an inch or so lower, and an inch or
so further back. I'm thinking I may cut out enough to allow for the
side pieces of the hooks, which would let it come down an inco or so
more, and let it move back another inch or so, which should b just about
exactly what I want. Some days even things that aren't quite what
you're after still come out right. Life is basically good.



JOAT
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On Dec 28, 9:10*pm, "Roemax" wrote:
INSULATE INSULATE INSULATE
have you got it

"J T" wrote in message

...



* * Update. *I took the entension out and tried it. *Worked perfetly,
of course, after all it ain't rocket science. *But I hadn't allowed for
the side pieces of the two hooks I'd made, so it hung an inch or so
higher than I'd figured on, and an inch or sor more forward. *So, turned
it around. *Ah, better, that way is an inch or so lower, and an inch or
so further back. *I'm thinking I may cut out enough to allow for the
side pieces of the hooks, which would let it come down an inco or so
more, and let it move back another inch or so, which should b just about
exactly what I want. *Some days even things that aren't quite what
you're after still come out right. *Life is basically good.

JOAT
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Hi, just read your post and wondering if your shop is near your house.
I live in Maine and my shop WAS also unheated. The house is hot air
[OIL] and I bought some flex insulated tube and cut into my bathroom
duct with a T and bought heat into my shop. It's a toasty 50 degree
when it's ZERO outside....
Dave

Dave wrote:

It's a toasty 50 degree
when it's ZERO outside....

By my definition 50F is not toasty, it is not even fit for human
habitation.

Lew

Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 2:10am (EST+5) (Roemax) doth
mumble:
INSULATE INSULATE INSULATE
have you got it

No, I haven't got it. I did once, but the doctor gave me some
pills.



JOAT
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Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 8:02pm (EST-3) (lance) doth
wondereth:
Hi, just read your post and wondering if your shop is near your house.
snip

Well, it is within walking distance. About 30-40 feet maybe.



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Fri, Dec 28, 2007, 8:54pm (EST-3)
(Lew*Hodgett) doth sayeth:
By my definition 50F is not toasty, it is not even fit for human
habitation.

It's all relative Lew. Up there 50 would be the same as a warm
summer day.



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On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:54:28 -0800, "Lew Hodgett"
wrote:

By my definition 50F is not toasty, it is not even fit for human
habitation.

My neck of the woods was a beautiful 43F yesterday, so I went for a
nice bike ride.

Being as much of a boat guy as you are, I totally understand your
attraction to warmth!

Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 9:21am
(Bonehenge*(B*A*R*R*Y)) doth sayeth:
My neck of the woods was a beautiful 43F yesterday, so I went for a nice
bike ride. snip

I know exactly what you mean. Here it was 72 today. ROTFLMAO



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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:48:30 -0500, (J T)
wrote:

I know exactly what you mean. Here it was 72 today. ROTFLMAO



It was 76 here, INSIDE! G

We did see 50F outside, which is really good for near New Year's.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:15:26 -0500, (J T)
wrote:


Awhile back got one of the Mr Buddy propane heaters, the small one.
Finally tried it out. Worked nicely. Heat whthin about a minute, and
heat in the sh op going up noticably withing 5-10 minutes. The hard
part then was dedicing where to put it. Finally decided to hang it from
the ceiling, near t he back. Ah, works. With a however. No matter
what anyone tells you, thee is almost always a h owever. This however
was, it was too high. So made a wooden extension to hang from the
wooden hooks I had put up before, so it will hang about 22 inches lower.
That'll put it low enough it'll direct heat at me even when I'm sitting.
And, if it turns out it's a tad too low, it'll be plenty easy enough to
raise it however much is wanted. Behind the heater is the window,
that's cracked open, with a fan blowing air in. The fan is mostly
blocked, so just a small amount of fresh air is coming in, not much to
heat, and it keeps any fumes, and fine dust in the air floating toward
the front, and the plastic strips. This should make those winter days
much more tolerable, even pleasant. Summer is no prob as the shop is
shaded most of the day and the fan keeps air going thru - don' need no
steenkin' air conditionin'.

Oh yeah, I glue up in the house. Even when it's warm enough to
safely do it in the sh op, I generally just do it in the house. Live
is basically good.



JOAT
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What are you using for the propane: 20 lb or quart bottles?
How do you find the cost of running the Buddy?

Otoe

"Otoe" wrote:

What are you using for the propane: 20 lb or quart bottles?
How do you find the cost of running the Buddy?


If the appliance operates with small bottle, that means high pressure.

You can use 20 lb and larger bottles by going to an industrial propane
distributor and have them make up a 10 ft, high pressure hose.

If the appliance uses low pressure propane, add a regulator.

Standard stuff on a cruising sailboat.

SFWIW, major difference in price between 20 lb bottles and 1 lb
bottles.

BTW, heat rises, mount heater accordingly.

Lew

Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 1:01am (EST+5)
(Bonehenge*(B*A*R*R*Y)) doth sayeth:
Here it was 72 today. ROTFLMAO
It was 76 here, INSIDE! G snip

Can't match that. It's about 10:50 PM here, and my inside temp
according to my wall thermometer is approx 71.5. Of course I have had
the frond door open, and just the screen door, for about the past 4-5
hours. BSIG.



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Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 8:45pm (Otoe) doth query:
What are you using for the propane: 20 lb or quart bottles? How do you
find the cost of running the Buddy?

For now, just the small bottles. Today didn't even have to light
it. Only had it going for a day or so, so not sure what the consumption
is; but, for me, here, I'm thinking I can get maybe a week's use out of
a bottle. Just don't know yet. If consumption is more than I'm
thinking, may go to a 20 lb bottle instead. So far I'm happy.



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J T said:

Sat, Dec 29, 2007, 8:45pm (Otoe) doth query:
What are you using for the propane: 20 lb or quart bottles? How do you
find the cost of running the Buddy?

For now, just the small bottles. Today didn't even have to light
it. Only had it going for a day or so, so not sure what the consumption
is; but, for me, here, I'm thinking I can get maybe a week's use out of
a bottle. Just don't know yet. If consumption is more than I'm
thinking, may go to a 20 lb bottle instead. So far I'm happy.

JOAT, you've probably seen this, but if not: Harbor Freight and
others sell a gauge/refill adapter that you can refill those little
bottle$ from a 17/20 lb tank. Probably not legal to transport them
afterward, however. Not sure if they do a complete refill, or how they
work with low supply tanks, but IIRC they run about $15.
FWIW,

Greg G.

Sun, Dec 30, 2007, 4:14am (Greg*G.) doth sayeth:
JOAT, you've probably seen this, but if not: Harbor Freight and others
sell a gauge/refill adapter that you can refill those little bottle$
from a 17/20 lb tank. Probably not legal to transport them afterward,
however. Not sure if they do a complete refill, or how they work with
low supply tanks, but IIRC they run about $15. FWIW,

Yep. Not sure if I'll go that route, or just get a adapter and
hose to use a 20 lb bottle. Still contemplating and analyzing. And
haven't had to use the heat for several days. LOL



JOAT
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