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I'm on my second one. This from HF. The switch is flaky,
sometimes doesn't want to tighten nuts and bolts. Well, I mostly use it for unloosen, so that's not a big deal. I don't have a big enough compressed air set up to support air tools, so I'm stuck with second best. Which is far better than heat n beat. Someday, I'll take it apart, and do some switch cleaning. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:22:30 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" The electric impact? I returned it after the first time I tried to use it . total waste of money and effort. |
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I've not heard of electric 3/4 drive impact wrench.
Fascinating idea. I havn't needed anything that big, but then, I'm still in the pony leagues for repair. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:54:23 -0600, Ignoramus32097 wrote: The electric impact? I returned it after the first time I tried to use it . total waste of money and effort. I have a 3/4" electric impact, that works very well. Took off forklift wheel nuts very quickly. i and 3 times as heavy as a good air operated one. |
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The electric impact? I returned it after the first time I tried to use
it . total waste of money and effort. I had a screwdriver like that once. I have never ever used or owned a screwdriver again. It slows me down a bit, but I figure they're all the same. total waste of money and effort. Steve |
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"Ignoramus32097" wrote YES, but it does not need a compressor. i I'm kinda partial to the 12v. varieties for roadside repairs. Stopped to help an obviously clueless man with a PMSsing SWMBO and three screaming kids. Pulled out the mini floor jack, the electric impact, I tell you, it looked like a TV commercial. Wouldn't take the money he offered, just told him to go buy a decent jack with the money, and pass the favor on to the next guy. Most of those factory jacks are real pieces of work, aren't they? Steve |
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Don't worry, we knew all about that trick being in manholes and vaults all day - you didn't go *anywhere* confined without a running blower system, and checking for gases. Confined space entry is one of the longest most complicated parts in OSHA regs. Steve |
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Gunner Asch writes:
There's white PVC, and the slightly colored CPVC. I'm not sure if one has higher pressure rating. The Grey is Sched 80 as I recall. Its MUCh thicker wall than the white. Much of the gray is DB-120; it's far weaker than even Sch 40. -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:18:48 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 05:02:39 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:35:02 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:54:23 -0600, Ignoramus32097 wrote: On 2011-11-25, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:22:30 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I'm not properly set up. But, the fellows who are, seem to really get a lot of good use out of thier air tools. Must be a reason the pro repair garages use them. The reason pros use them is they pack more power into a smaller lighter unit, good ones last forever, there is NO shock hazard, and no spark hazard when working around fuel vapours etc. You can have my air impact when you can pry it out od my cold dead hands - along with my air ratchet and drill. The electric impact? I returned it after the first time I tried to use it . total waste of money and effort. I have a 3/4" electric impact, that works very well. Took off forklift wheel nuts very quickly. i and 3 times as heavy as a good air operated one. Yes and no. Did you add in the weight of the compressor? Gunner Did you add in the weight of the coal fired generator, or the nuke?? I don't carry the compresser around - just string out the hose. Thats going to be hard to do out in the field, isnt it? My genny weighs a hell of a lot less than a compressor..and your compressor not only is big and heavy..but it too needs the nuke or coal fired power plant. My electric tools bypass the middle man ...G Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:59:07 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:18:48 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 05:02:39 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:35:02 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:54:23 -0600, Ignoramus32097 wrote: On 2011-11-25, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:22:30 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I'm not properly set up. But, the fellows who are, seem to really get a lot of good use out of thier air tools. Must be a reason the pro repair garages use them. The reason pros use them is they pack more power into a smaller lighter unit, good ones last forever, there is NO shock hazard, and no spark hazard when working around fuel vapours etc. You can have my air impact when you can pry it out od my cold dead hands - along with my air ratchet and drill. The electric impact? I returned it after the first time I tried to use it . total waste of money and effort. I have a 3/4" electric impact, that works very well. Took off forklift wheel nuts very quickly. i and 3 times as heavy as a good air operated one. Yes and no. Did you add in the weight of the compressor? Gunner Did you add in the weight of the coal fired generator, or the nuke?? I don't carry the compresser around - just string out the hose. Thats going to be hard to do out in the field, isnt it? My genny weighs a hell of a lot less than a compressor..and your compressor not only is big and heavy..but it too needs the nuke or coal fired power plant. My electric tools bypass the middle man ...G Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch Lots of service trucks have either self contained or engine mounted compressors to allow use of air tools "in the field" And CO2 tanks are a lot less bulky, and a lot lighter, than a generator (or compressor) for "limited" field use. |
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:36:01 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote: The electric impact? I returned it after the first time I tried to use it . total waste of money and effort. I had a screwdriver like that once. I have never ever used or owned a screwdriver again. It slows me down a bit, but I figure they're all the same. total waste of money and effort. Nope, same as all other tools - you probably got the cheap consumer unit, and it couldn't twist it's way out of a paper bag. The motor makes a cute "whirrrrr" sound and the tip turns until it meets a little resistance. You want small and light and "screwdriver shaped" (when set to Straight) to get into tight spots, yet Actually Does Something, the ol' DeWalt DW920K "bendy" screwdriver is perfect - been beating on one for many years. Enough oomph for self-drill screws or to drill the wiring hole too for light sheetmetal like fluorescent cans. -- Bruce -- |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:06:06 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:59:07 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:18:48 -0500, wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 05:02:39 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 22:35:02 -0500, wrote: On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:54:23 -0600, Ignoramus32097 wrote: On 2011-11-25, wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:22:30 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: I'm not properly set up. But, the fellows who are, seem to really get a lot of good use out of thier air tools. Must be a reason the pro repair garages use them. The reason pros use them is they pack more power into a smaller lighter unit, good ones last forever, there is NO shock hazard, and no spark hazard when working around fuel vapours etc. You can have my air impact when you can pry it out od my cold dead hands - along with my air ratchet and drill. The electric impact? I returned it after the first time I tried to use it . total waste of money and effort. I have a 3/4" electric impact, that works very well. Took off forklift wheel nuts very quickly. i and 3 times as heavy as a good air operated one. Yes and no. Did you add in the weight of the compressor? Gunner Did you add in the weight of the coal fired generator, or the nuke?? I don't carry the compresser around - just string out the hose. Thats going to be hard to do out in the field, isnt it? My genny weighs a hell of a lot less than a compressor..and your compressor not only is big and heavy..but it too needs the nuke or coal fired power plant. My electric tools bypass the middle man ...G Gunner Lots of service trucks have either self contained or engine mounted compressors to allow use of air tools "in the field" And CO2 tanks are a lot less bulky, and a lot lighter, than a generator (or compressor) for "limited" field use. Indeed they do. And in fact..I have a gasoline powered air compressor (Emglo) that I use. Doesnt have a tank however..which means I have to keep a tank at hand. (Im needing a carby rebuild kit currently for it..very hard to start) And I have indeed used CO2 tanks for exactly this as well. And none of them require hooking up to a nuke or coal fired generator VBG And yes..I do have a big electric air compressor thats hooked to the nuke/coal fired generator (actually I think my power comes from Hoover Dam..so tis Green!) and lots and lots of air hoses. Probably 500 or more feet of it. And a bunch of air tools, everything from air powered jig saw to air powered grinders, drills, ratchets, etc etce etc. But when Im in a hurry to break off a lug nut or similar..I drag out the electric impact wrench and plug it in, ZIPPPP and Im done. No waiting for the compressor and its 120 gallon tank..and the subsidiary 80 gallon tank to fill. Which can take a bit. (VBG) :P Gunner Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:49:02 -0800, "Bruce L. Bergman (munged human
readable)" wrote: On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 11:36:01 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: The electric impact? I returned it after the first time I tried to use it . total waste of money and effort. I had a screwdriver like that once. I have never ever used or owned a screwdriver again. It slows me down a bit, but I figure they're all the same. total waste of money and effort. Nope, same as all other tools - you probably got the cheap consumer unit, and it couldn't twist it's way out of a paper bag. The motor makes a cute "whirrrrr" sound and the tip turns until it meets a little resistance. You want small and light and "screwdriver shaped" (when set to Straight) to get into tight spots, yet Actually Does Something, the ol' DeWalt DW920K "bendy" screwdriver is perfect - been beating on one for many years. Enough oomph for self-drill screws or to drill the wiring hole too for light sheetmetal like fluorescent cans. -- Bruce -- So thats a good screwdriver? Ive only seen a couple of them over the years and have never handled one. Ill definately keep my eyes open for one now that you have recommended them. Thanks!! Gunner, who has avoided such tools since being given a B&D and being totally..totally unimpressed with it. One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:50:54 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:49:02 -0800, "Bruce L. Bergman (munged human readable)" wrote: You want small and light and "screwdriver shaped" (when set to Straight) to get into tight spots, yet Actually Does Something, the ol' DeWalt DW920K "bendy" screwdriver is perfect - been beating on one for many years. Enough oomph for self-drill screws or to drill the wiring hole too for light sheetmetal like fluorescent cans. -- Bruce -- So thats a good screwdriver? Ive only seen a couple of them over the years and have never handled one. Ill definately keep my eyes open for one now that you have recommended them. Thanks!! Gunner, who has avoided such tools since being given a B&D and being totally..totally unimpressed with it. It's got enough kick to strip out screw heads, and even snap a 6-32 if you forget to unlock the clutch after drilling. Got turned on to it by my friend the Theatre Lighting Tech, always tearing down Martin moving lights with five bajillion little screws to get inside. And then reverse the process. When you need to trim out a whole house full of receps and switches and devices it's a real wrist saver. The only big disadvantage being it's my only 7.2V device, so it has it's own two batteries. But one will charge by the time you run down the other. And the quick-release collet holding the screwdriver tips in is a bit loose, so if you're trying to do a job one-handed while standing on your head (or other uncomfortable positions) and bump the collar into something it might spit out the bit... But that's what a little strip of electrical tape is for - you tape the screw to the end of the bit to keep it there, use another little piece to keep the bit on the driver. -- Bruce -- |
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