I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on Craigslist.
It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking the goods before
check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase
of the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i
would prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and
upon the confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come
for the pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come
for the viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will.
If you are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following
details so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment
2: Your Address and zip code (NOT P.O BOX)
3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment
out to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy
for sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i
have with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and
prepared the Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my
shipping Agent will come for the pick up.
Get back to me your full name and address,so that I can go ahead and
issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once more.
When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall release the
goods. Is that clear enough?

Steve

scam


Steve B wrote:
I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on Craigslist.
It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking the goods before
check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase
of the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i
would prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and
upon the confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come
for the pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come
for the viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will.
If you are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following
details so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment
2: Your Address and zip code (NOT P.O BOX)
3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment
out to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy
for sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i
have with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and
prepared the Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my
shipping Agent will come for the pick up.
Get back to me your full name and address,so that I can go ahead and
issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once more.
When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall release the
goods. Is that clear enough?

Steve




--

Richard Lamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:35:54 -0700, the renowned "Steve B"
wrote:

I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on Craigslist.
It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking the goods before
check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure of how it works.

Anyone?

I can guess. The check is phony (he hopes you don't call and verify
it) but done in a way that takes a week or two to come back, and
"accidentally" made out for more than the price. You're asked to wire
some money to him in East Africa or whatever and generously allowed to
"keep" some for your troubles.

Or he asks you to pay the shipping company, and includes a very, very
generous amount on the fake check for shipping, and again, as above.

Either way you end up out whatever is sent to him, maybe shipping and
maybe the goods.

From a car site:

Verify that a certified check is genuine
Before you deposit a certified check, verify authenticity with the
issuing bank-not just your bank. Make sure the account contains
sufficient funds and the issuing bank guarantees payment on the
check. It may take a week or more for the check to clear. It
hasn't cleared just because your bank has accepted it and credited
your account.

Beware of overpayment or other complicated payment schemes
Don't agree to any plan where the buyer asks to send a check for
more than the sale price and requests that the seller refund the
difference. And be suspicious of any buyer who proposes making
payment through a friend or agent of the buyer.


For laughs you could ask him to send the "certified check" and see
what happens. You can always change your mind and send it back if you
don't like the looks of it (and from this dude's approach and command
of English, I bet you won't). Of course he can then claim he didn't
receive it and you owe him the money etc. so maybe the laughs won't be
worth it.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

"Spehro Pefhany" wrote

For laughs you could ask him to send the "certified check" and see
what happens. You can always change your mind and send it back if you
don't like the looks of it (and from this dude's approach and command
of English, I bet you won't). Of course he can then claim he didn't
receive it and you owe him the money etc. so maybe the laughs won't be
worth it.

We did that with one of our rent houses just for laughs. The check was a
pretty good copy of the real deal. The bank called us back in two days
saying it was no good, which we expected, and didn't touch the funds. The
guy called all indignant, and asking for his overage, and vehemently
assuring that the check was good. We said, "Well, then I'm sure you want it
back. Where do we mail it to?" ........... click........

Steve

Nigerian scammer from Lagos, no doubt whatsoever.

i

On 2011-07-23, Steve B wrote:
I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on Craigslist.
It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking the goods before
check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase
of the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i
would prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and
upon the confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come
for the pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come
for the viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will.
If you are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following
details so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment
2: Your Address and zip code (NOT P.O BOX)
3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment
out to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy
for sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i
have with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and
prepared the Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my
shipping Agent will come for the pick up.
Get back to me your full name and address,so that I can go ahead and
issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once more.
When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall release the
goods. Is that clear enough?

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on Craigslist.
It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking the goods before
check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase
of the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i
would prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and
upon the confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come
for the pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come
for the viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will.
If you are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following
details so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment
2: Your Address and zip code (NOT P.O BOX)
3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment
out to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy
for sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i
have with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and
prepared the Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my
shipping Agent will come for the pick up.
Get back to me your full name and address,so that I can go ahead and
issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once more.
When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall release the
goods. Is that clear enough?

Steve
I wouldn't even reply and give him your email address.

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:35:54 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on Craigslist.
It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking the goods before
check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase
of the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i
would prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and
upon the confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come
for the pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come
for the viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will.
If you are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following
details so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment
2: Your Address and zip code (NOT P.O BOX)
3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment
out to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy
for sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i
have with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and
prepared the Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my
shipping Agent will come for the pick up.
Get back to me your full name and address,so that I can go ahead and
issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once more.
When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall release the
goods. Is that clear enough?

Steve

The stilted Engrish is the sign of a scammer. Most of them come from
Nigeria, but others from asian countries.

Gunner

--
Maxim 12: A soft answer turneth away wrath.
Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head.

On 7/23/2011 10:35 AM, Steve B wrote:
I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on Craigslist.
It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking the goods before
check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase
of the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i
would prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and
upon the confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come
for the pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come
for the viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will.
If you are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following
details so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment
2: Your Address and zip code (NOT P.O BOX)
3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment
out to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy
for sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i
have with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and
prepared the Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my
shipping Agent will come for the pick up.
Get back to me your full name and address,so that I can go ahead and
issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once more.
When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall release the
goods. Is that clear enough?

Steve



It's a scam, as others noted. No need to bother with responding any
further to him. Usually they tell you to pay the shipper, and they
"accidentally" write the check for too much, and ask you to send the
overpayment back to them. So the goal is they get free stuff + money too.

If you get the issue (of these sorts of scams) frequently, one thing you
can do is do a lookup of the email domain to see where its coming from.
Nobody is going to pay to ship a pile of ordinary hardware store ****
halfway around the world. If it's not in your geographical area, forget
them.

If all they can provide is a gmail, hotmail, yahoo or whatever web-based
account, forget them too.

First go here-
http://www.dnsstuff.com/

and then enter the domain name in the "whois" box and press the go
button. For an address like "http://www.google.com", you drop the
"http://www." part, and only enter "google.com"

Google is a webpage of course, but it works for mail servers too.

For an email address of ", you just enter
"google.com" and it will tell you were the domain is geographically
located.

Steve B wrote:

I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on Craigslist.
It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking the goods
before
check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase
of the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i
would prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and
upon the confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come
for the pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come
for the viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will.
If you are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following
details so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment
2: Your Address and zip code (NOT P.O BOX)
3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment
out to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy
for sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i
have with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and
prepared the Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my
shipping Agent will come for the pick up.
Get back to me your full name and address,so that I can go ahead and
issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once more.
When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall release the
goods. Is that clear enough?

Tell him to take his certified check to a bank, and trade it in for
currency, or possibly gold. ;-)

Good Luck!
Rich

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:35:54 -0700, Steve B wrote:

I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on
Craigslist. It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking
the goods before check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure
of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase of
the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i would
prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and upon the
confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come for the
pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come for the
viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will. If you
are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following details
so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment 2: Your Address and zip code (NOT
P.O BOX) 3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment out
to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy for
sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i have
with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and prepared the
Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my shipping Agent will
come for the pick up. Get back to me your full name and address,so that
I can go ahead and issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once
more. When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall
release the goods. Is that clear enough?

Steve

Because the Democrats wuv you and want you to be happy, the banks are
required to make funds available to you within three days of depositing a
check.

But if the check doesn't actually clear the other bank, they'll suck that
money right back out again.

So that 'certified check' (likely) has something wrong with it. And
while you might think it's 'cleared' the bank when the money shows up on
your account on-line, the truth is that you don't find out for much
longer.

If you really wanted to waste time playing with the guy's head, take the
check and when he calls say "oh, the bank has made the funds available to
me, but they tell me that it hasn't actually cleared yet -- I'm
waiting". But it'll just waste everyone's time, and his time is less
valuable than yours.

Or say "Sure. I won't be there, but my neighbor Bob from the Fraud
Investigation Unit said that he'd be happy to take the check and take a
picture of your shipping agent to boot".

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:35:54 -0700, Steve B wrote:

I got the following response for some conduit I am selling on
Craigslist. It is fishy, but there is no mention of kickback or taking
the goods before check clears. I figure this is a scam, but am unsure
of how it works.

Anyone?

aroo james to me:

Hello,

I am very much satisfied with the condition and price of the above
item you posted on KSL and I would like to make an immediate purchase of
the item. So i will advice that you withdraw the ad from the web.

Pls, i will like to know how you intend to proceed on this, but i would
prefer that i issue out a certified check to your location and upon the
confirmation and clearance of payment, my shipper will come for the
pick-up at your location. I would really have loved to come for the
viewing of the item but since i am not chanced my movers will. If you
are okay with this, please do get back to me with the following details
so i can make out payment
IMMEDIATELY.


1: Your Full Name to be on the payment 2: Your Address and zip code (NOT
P.O BOX) 3: Your mobile number or cell phone number


I would forward all your details to my secretary to make the payment out
to you fast...i am on a business trip right now, and would be busy for
sometime, i would be checking my email time to time to check your
message.

Have a nice day

ME TO AROO JAMES:

I proceed very simple. Bring US currency. Pick up merchandise.

AROO JAMES BACK TO ME.

Hello,
Thanks for your swift response.I would have preferred paying you by
cash,but i am presently on Business Trip,and due to the interest i have
with the item.I will instruct my secretary to go ahead and prepared the
Certified Check asap. Then when the check clears, my shipping Agent will
come for the pick up. Get back to me your full name and address,so that
I can go ahead and issue out the payment.

MY LAST TO AROO JAMES:

You seem not to understand what I told you, so I will tell you once
more. When a living person pays me with American currency, I shall
release the goods. Is that clear enough?

Steve

Because the Democrats wuv you and want you to be happy, the banks are
required to make funds available to you within three days of depositing a
check.

But if the check doesn't actually clear the other bank, they'll suck that
money right back out again.

So that 'certified check' (likely) has something wrong with it. And
while you might think it's 'cleared' the bank when the money shows up on
your account on-line, the truth is that you don't find out for much
longer.

If you really wanted to waste time playing with the guy's head, take the
check and when he calls say "oh, the bank has made the funds available to
me, but they tell me that it hasn't actually cleared yet -- I'm
waiting". But it'll just waste everyone's time, and his time is less
valuable than yours.

Or say "Sure. I won't be there, but my neighbor Bob from the Fraud
Investigation Unit said that he'd be happy to take the check and take a
picture of your shipping agent to boot".

--
Tim Wescott

I have not heard from the guy since the last contact, and if I had, I was
ready to filter him.

Problem gone.

Steve