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``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' .... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i |
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"Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Uh, that one's a challenge. It really would take some forethought to get the noose in place *before* she bound her hands, while her feet are bound. Did she then have to hop up on the railing with bound feet to accomplish the hanging? The mind boggles.... -- Ed Huntress |
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On 2011-07-20, Ed Huntress wrote:
"Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Uh, that one's a challenge. It really would take some forethought to get the noose in place *before* she bound her hands, while her feet are bound. Did she then have to hop up on the railing with bound feet to accomplish the hanging? The mind boggles.... I wonder if she also shot herself in the head four times... |
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"Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-20, Ed Huntress wrote: "Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Uh, that one's a challenge. It really would take some forethought to get the noose in place *before* she bound her hands, while her feet are bound. Did she then have to hop up on the railing with bound feet to accomplish the hanging? The mind boggles.... I wonder if she also shot herself in the head four times... ANOTHER slick party trick, to be sure. Only in Arizona. -- Ed Huntress |
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"Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Reminds me of some of those investigations during the Civil Rights movement of the sixties. Coroners commented more than once, "Worst case of suicide I've ever seen." Steve |
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On 2011-07-20, Steve B wrote:
"Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Reminds me of some of those investigations during the Civil Rights movement of the sixties. Coroners commented more than once, "Worst case of suicide I've ever seen." Steve Now that you mention it, sounds like a similar story. i |
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"Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... On 2011-07-20, Steve B wrote: "Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Reminds me of some of those investigations during the Civil Rights movement of the sixties. Coroners commented more than once, "Worst case of suicide I've ever seen." Steve Now that you mention it, sounds like a similar story. Maybe she hated her husband so much that she wanted it to appear as though he had murdered her. |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:16:35 -0500, Ignoramus12579
wrote: http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Actually..Yes. Im aware of several such cases. Gunner -- Maxim 12: A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head. |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:49:17 -0500, Ignoramus12579
wrote: On 2011-07-20, Ed Huntress wrote: "Ignoramus12579" wrote in message ... http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Uh, that one's a challenge. It really would take some forethought to get the noose in place *before* she bound her hands, while her feet are bound. Did she then have to hop up on the railing with bound feet to accomplish the hanging? The mind boggles.... I wonder if she also shot herself in the head four times... Im aware of a guy who shot himself in the head 3 times. With a revolver. Little RG .22 lr as I recall. Death spasms can be ugly things Gunner -- Maxim 12: A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head. |
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On 7/19/2011 10:26 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
id wrote in message ... http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i Uh, that one's a challenge. It really would take some forethought to get the noose in place *before* she bound her hands, while her feet are bound. Did she then have to hop up on the railing with bound feet to accomplish the hanging? The mind boggles.... I wonder if she knew Hillary Clinton. David |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:16:35 -0500, Ignoramus12579
wrote: http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i The article says that she died and then the kid a couple of days later when she was watching him. Not gonna put much of actual happening together with reporting like that. I got it, The cop is really a transsexual and gets the wrinkle injections for free for favors that Rebecca would not undergo. Who knows... SW |
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On 20/07/2011 9:30 PM, Sunworshipper wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:16:35 -0500, Ignoramus12579 wrote: http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i The article says that she died and then the kid a couple of days later when she was watching him. Not gonna put much of actual happening together with reporting like that. I got it, The cop is really a transsexual and gets the wrinkle injections for free for favors that Rebecca would not undergo. Who knows... SW That makes sense. |
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In article , Ignoramus12579 wrote:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed [...] So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. It's not unheard of for suicides to try to make it look like a murder. Tying one's own ankles is obviously easy; tying one's wrists is a bit more difficult, but the knot could be pulled tight with the teeth. Hanging one's self afterward? Prepare the noose beforehand, and step into it. Any support needed to reach it could easily be kicked away. |
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On 7/20/2011 5:30 AM, Sunworshipper wrote:
The article says that she died and then the kid a couple of days later when she was watching him. Not gonna put much of actual happening together with reporting like that. I'm not following this mini soap opera much, but did hear something on the news than the kid fell down the stairs before she died, dying after her from complications. Or something like that. Jon |
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On 2011-07-20, Sunworshipper SW@GWNTUNDRA wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:16:35 -0500, Ignoramus12579 wrote: http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i The article says that she died and then the kid a couple of days later when she was watching him. Not gonna put much of actual happening together with reporting like that. I think that the article says that the boy was injured two days before she died, but died a little later on Sunday, succumbing to injuries. . I got it, The cop is really a transsexual and gets the wrinkle injections for free for favors that Rebecca would not undergo. Who knows... It is weird, alright. i |
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On 2011-07-20, Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
Sunworshipper wrote: On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 22:16:35 -0500, Ignoramus12579 wrote: http://www.insidebayarea.com/ci_1850...ce=most_viewed ``The first came when Rebecca Zahau, the 32-year-old girlfriend of Arizona pharmaceuticals tycoon Jonah Shacknai was found dead Wednesday, her nude body hanging from balcony of his Coronado home, her wrists and ankles bound.'' ... ``"Suicides can appear odd," San Diego County Sheriff's Sgt. Roy Frank said. "It's not unusual to have a suicide that appears to be something else."'' So, I guess, Sgt. Roy Frank is saying that Rebecca Zahau undressed, tied her own wrists and ankles, and then hung herself from the balcony. i The article says that she died and then the kid a couple of days later when she was watching him. Not gonna put much of actual happening together with reporting like that. I read it as the kid fell while under her supervision a few days before she was found hanged and then the kid subsequently died of his injuries. I do not really "get it" how falling from stairs can be so life threatening for a kid. Theory: The hanging might have been in retaliation for the kid's injury. If that is suspected but could never be proven, the cops might just call this justice and look the other way. Who knows. i |
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Ignoramus13316 wrote:
I read it as the kid fell while under her supervision a few days before she was found hanged and then the kid subsequently died of his injuries. I do not really "get it" how falling from stairs can be so life threatening for a kid. people die all the time from falling down the stairs. think 30 step flight of granite steps. heck, hitting a sharp corner on a wooden step could be fatal. |
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[snip] people die all the time from falling down the stairs. That's what I tell the wife. :-/ -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ I have a truly marvelous sig which this margin is too narrow to contain. |
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