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This is the last year I will be able to attend the local airshow at the
Nevada County Airpark, and finally owning a really good camera, I decided to make a day of it. Normally I'm in and out in an hour or two, but this year I took my time, getting some nice artsy photos. Happened to hear about a raffle for rides in a Waco biplane, so hustled over and bought a couple tickets. Hour or so later, I heard my name called over the PA, the last of 4 winners! I was the first to check in, so got the first ride. Don't know the exact year, but it was a very nice Waco UPF7, blue with yellow wings. My dad has a lot of time in Wacos and considers them his favorite biplane. So this was a real thrill, and my first ride in an open cockpit plane. There is just nothing quite like lazily cruising about 800', watching the scenery below slowly roll past! Jon |
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On Jul 9, 6:17*pm, Jon Anderson wrote:
This is the last year I will be able to attend the local airshow at the Nevada County Airpark, and finally owning a really good camera, I decided to make a day of it. Normally I'm in and out in an hour or two, but this year I took my time, getting some nice artsy photos. Happened to hear about a raffle for rides in a Waco biplane, so hustled over and bought a couple tickets. Hour or so later, I heard my name called over the PA, the last of 4 winners! I was the first to check in, so got the first ride. Don't know the exact year, but it was a very nice Waco UPF7, blue with yellow wings. My dad has a lot of time in Wacos and considers them his favorite biplane. So this was a real thrill, and my first ride in an open cockpit plane. There is just nothing quite like lazily cruising about 800', watching the scenery below slowly roll past! Jon That would be fun. |
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On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:17:24 -0800, Jon Anderson
wrote: This is the last year I will be able to attend the local airshow at the Nevada County Airpark, and finally owning a really good camera, I decided to make a day of it. Normally I'm in and out in an hour or two, but this year I took my time, getting some nice artsy photos. Happened to hear about a raffle for rides in a Waco biplane, so hustled over and bought a couple tickets. Hour or so later, I heard my name called over the PA, the last of 4 winners! I was the first to check in, so got the first ride. Don't know the exact year, but it was a very nice Waco UPF7, blue with yellow wings. My dad has a lot of time in Wacos and considers them his favorite biplane. So this was a real thrill, and my first ride in an open cockpit plane. Sucha deal! Sounds like lots of fun. There is just nothing quite like lazily cruising about 800', watching the scenery below slowly roll past! It's even better slower. I spent $25 1980s dollars to go up in a bubblemachine. We took off over the Palomar Airport air show in Carlsbad, CA and lolled around for almost half an hour. The lady pilot had just soloed that morning and it was my first helo ride, so we both had a blast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_47 She was slow and bumpy (I've since ridden in a Robinson R44 and it was much smoother, prop-shudderwise.) Dad let me take off and fly a Cherokee C from Oceanside airport to Catalina Island and back, but he insisted on landing it himself. (I had just finished Basic Aviation in high school but hadn't taken any flying lessons.) I sure wish I'd pursued that direction, but I didn't want Dad pushing me into the Air Force, in his footsteps. ('Course, it would have played havoc with my alcoholism at the time, too.) I love flying, though, and the smaller the better. -- One word frees us of all the weight and pain of life: That word is love. -- Sophocles |
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 06:11:43 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:17:24 -0800, Jon Anderson wrote: This is the last year I will be able to attend the local airshow at the Nevada County Airpark, and finally owning a really good camera, I decided to make a day of it. Normally I'm in and out in an hour or two, but this year I took my time, getting some nice artsy photos. Happened to hear about a raffle for rides in a Waco biplane, so hustled over and bought a couple tickets. Hour or so later, I heard my name called over the PA, the last of 4 winners! I was the first to check in, so got the first ride. Don't know the exact year, but it was a very nice Waco UPF7, blue with yellow wings. My dad has a lot of time in Wacos and considers them his favorite biplane. So this was a real thrill, and my first ride in an open cockpit plane. Sucha deal! Sounds like lots of fun. There is just nothing quite like lazily cruising about 800', watching the scenery below slowly roll past! It's even better slower. I spent $25 1980s dollars to go up in a bubblemachine. We took off over the Palomar Airport air show in Carlsbad, CA and lolled around for almost half an hour. The lady pilot had just soloed that morning and it was my first helo ride, so we both had a blast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_47 She was slow and bumpy (I've since ridden in a Robinson R44 and it was much smoother, prop-shudderwise.) Dad let me take off and fly a Cherokee C from Oceanside airport to Catalina Island and back, but he insisted on landing it himself. (I had just finished Basic Aviation in high school but hadn't taken any flying lessons.) I sure wish I'd pursued that direction, but I didn't want Dad pushing me into the Air Force, in his footsteps. ('Course, it would have played havoc with my alcoholism at the time, too.) I love flying, though, and the smaller the better. So, your an Air Force brat also. I soloed on my 16th birthday. Soon as things start going better I want to start building a plane, haven't figured the style yet. Got to have some loud prop chop and aerobatic capability though. Never flown an open cockpit, that would be interesting. Had the canopy open in a Grumman Tiger at night with a Canadian friend and use to take up the scared doctor's and attorney's arocoupes with the canopies back just so ya don't cook, those things are next to impossible to do anything with BTW. Suppose I'll be asked to do Oshkosh this year again. Just seems painful and a waist of time to see up close what the loaded are up to. SW |
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"Jon Anderson" wrote in message ... This is the last year I will be able to attend the local airshow at the Nevada County Airpark, and finally owning a really good camera, I decided to make a day of it. Normally I'm in and out in an hour or two, but this year I took my time, getting some nice artsy photos. Happened to hear about a raffle for rides in a Waco biplane, so hustled over and bought a couple tickets. Hour or so later, I heard my name called over the PA, the last of 4 winners! I was the first to check in, so got the first ride. Don't know the exact year, but it was a very nice Waco UPF7, blue with yellow wings. My dad has a lot of time in Wacos and considers them his favorite biplane. So this was a real thrill, and my first ride in an open cockpit plane. There is just nothing quite like lazily cruising about 800', watching the scenery below slowly roll past! Jon My dad had a fascination with planes. He went to the Oshkosh Air Show in 1936, the year he graduated from high school, and paid for a ride in an old WWI vintage biplane. He said he immediately knew what he wanted to do in life. He was in the US Air Corps as a sergeant, a flight engineer. He had previously been a mechanic at oilfield businesses in Pennsylvania, starting out in Grandpa's garage making bootleg equipment. (My Polish Grandpa was quite famous for his "shine". Dad wanted to go on to commercial aviation, but had contracted malaria in the South Pacific, and they would not take him. Wish there were more cheap flights available. But with today's market, and insurance and parts and all, they are quite spendy. One's whole life can change with something as simple as one mosquito bite. Steve |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:17:24 -0800, Jon Anderson wrote: This is the last year I will be able to attend the local airshow at the Nevada County Airpark, and finally owning a really good camera, I decided to make a day of it. Normally I'm in and out in an hour or two, but this year I took my time, getting some nice artsy photos. Happened to hear about a raffle for rides in a Waco biplane, so hustled over and bought a couple tickets. Hour or so later, I heard my name called over the PA, the last of 4 winners! I was the first to check in, so got the first ride. Don't know the exact year, but it was a very nice Waco UPF7, blue with yellow wings. My dad has a lot of time in Wacos and considers them his favorite biplane. So this was a real thrill, and my first ride in an open cockpit plane. Sucha deal! Sounds like lots of fun. There is just nothing quite like lazily cruising about 800', watching the scenery below slowly roll past! It's even better slower. I spent $25 1980s dollars to go up in a bubblemachine. We took off over the Palomar Airport air show in Carlsbad, CA and lolled around for almost half an hour. The lady pilot had just soloed that morning and it was my first helo ride, so we both had a blast. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_47 She was slow and bumpy (I've since ridden in a Robinson R44 and it was much smoother, prop-shudderwise.) Dad let me take off and fly a Cherokee C from Oceanside airport to Catalina Island and back, but he insisted on landing it himself. (I had just finished Basic Aviation in high school but hadn't taken any flying lessons.) I sure wish I'd pursued that direction, but I didn't want Dad pushing me into the Air Force, in his footsteps. ('Course, it would have played havoc with my alcoholism at the time, too.) I love flying, though, and the smaller the better. I rode in helicopters hundreds of times in the oilfields. I always enjoyed it, save one downwind landing when we almost went into the Gulf of Mexico. I like being to see all around. Steve |
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How nice it is to finally have a good camera (Sony A700) and decent
photo processing software (Lightroom 3). Here's the album I posted to FB last night: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.238488479509077.64664.100000437806967&l=eef 6268787 Jon |
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On 7/10/2011 9:38 AM, Jon Anderson wrote:
How nice it is to finally have a good camera (Sony A700) and decent photo processing software (Lightroom 3). Here's the album I posted to FB last night: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.238488479509077.64664.100000437806967&l=eef 6268787 Jon GReat pictures, Jon. Thanks for the ride. Paul |
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:04:33 -0500, Sunworshipper SW@GWNTUNDRA
wrote: On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 06:11:43 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: Dad let me take off and fly a Cherokee C from Oceanside airport to Catalina Island and back, but he insisted on landing it himself. (I had just finished Basic Aviation in high school but hadn't taken any flying lessons.) I sure wish I'd pursued that direction, but I didn't want Dad pushing me into the Air Force, in his footsteps. ('Course, it would have played havoc with my alcoholism at the time, too.) I love flying, though, and the smaller the better. So, your an Air Force brat also. I soloed on my 16th birthday. Soon "Ayup." and "Congrats!", respectively. as things start going better I want to start building a plane, haven't figured the style yet. Got to have some loud prop chop and aerobatic capability though. Screw props. Go BD-5. http://www.bd5.com/Expo2002pics/DSCN1223.jpg booful, wot? Never flown an open cockpit, that would be interesting. I think it'd be fun once or twice, but I'd rather fly around a bit faster, and that'd be hell to always be in the wind and weather. Had the canopy open in a Grumman Tiger at night with a Canadian friend and use to take up the scared doctor's and attorney's arocoupes with the canopies back just so ya don't cook, those things are next to impossible to do anything with BTW. Same putterer as a Cherokee. Suppose I'll be asked to do Oshkosh this year again. Just seems painful and a waist of time to see up close what the loaded are up to. Aw, c'mon. You know you drool over their expensive toys, despite the pain. It's fun to see how the other half (80%?) live. Would you pass up a chance to see, and climb aboard, SpaceShipOne or SpaceShipTwo? -- Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable, when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities. -- Susan Rice |
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 08:38:04 -0800, Jon Anderson
wrote: How nice it is to finally have a good camera (Sony A700) and decent photo processing software (Lightroom 3). Here's the album I posted to FB last night: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.238488479509077.64664.100000437806967&l=eef 6268787 Cool. P.S: Say, what happened to your chin/cheek in the closeup pic? -- Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable, when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities. -- Susan Rice |
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Steve B wrote:
My dad had a fascination with planes. He went to the Oshkosh Air Show in 1936, the year he graduated from high school, and paid for a ride in an old WWI vintage biplane. He said he immediately knew what he wanted to do in life. He was in the US Air Corps as a sergeant, a flight engineer. He had previously been a mechanic at oilfield businesses in Pennsylvania, starting out in Grandpa's garage making bootleg equipment. (My Polish Grandpa was quite famous for his "shine". Dad wanted to go on to commercial aviation, but had contracted malaria in the South Pacific, and they would not take him. Wish there were more cheap flights available. But with today's market, and insurance and parts and all, they are quite spendy. One's whole life can change with something as simple as one mosquito bite. Steve Uhm, minor technical detail... _THE_ Oshkosh air show didn't happen until 1970. Maybe _AN_ Oshkosh air show in 1936? -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress |
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On 7/10/2011 12:09 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
P.S: Say, what happened to your chin/cheek in the closeup pic? Partly just sun/shadow, and partly the strap from the helmet. It was cinched down pretty good. When I tilted my head down for the shot, looks like it sorta gave me chipmunk cheeks. Jon |
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On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:22:49 -0800, Jon Anderson
wrote: On 7/10/2011 12:09 PM, Larry Jaques wrote: P.S: Say, what happened to your chin/cheek in the closeup pic? Partly just sun/shadow, and partly the strap from the helmet. It was cinched down pretty good. When I tilted my head down for the shot, looks like it sorta gave me chipmunk cheeks. Nah, you were braggin'bout the great Lightsomething software and I caught the color blowout in your face in that shot and was funnin' ya. But now that you mention it... -- Progress is the product of human agency. Things get better because we make them better. Things go wrong when we get too comfortable, when we fail to take risks or seize opportunities. -- Susan Rice |
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On 7/11/2011 5:11 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
Nah, you were braggin'bout the great Lightsomething software and I caught the color blowout in your face in that shot and was funnin' ya. But now that you mention it... Ah, well, imagine learning to fly in a Piper Cub, then suddenly being turned loose in a twin engine turbo prop. It's been over 30 years since I was shooting 35mm film with an SLR. Now I've got what is to me, a friggin space ship, both in the camera and software. I've had both for only a couple weeks and haven't had much time to learn either one. I was enjoying the flight first and foremost, worrying about settings and composition was not a priority. As for Lightroom, I need to get a book or two. "Lightroom for Dummies" would probably be a good starting place G. Right now I just twiddle sliders and such until the picture looks somewhat better. Ctl-Z (undo) is my friend... Jon |
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:12:44 -0800, Jon Anderson
wrote: On 7/11/2011 5:11 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: Nah, you were braggin'bout the great Lightsomething software and I caught the color blowout in your face in that shot and was funnin' ya. But now that you mention it... Ah, well, imagine learning to fly in a Piper Cub, then suddenly being turned loose in a twin engine turbo prop. It's been over 30 years since I was shooting 35mm film with an SLR. Now I've got what is to me, a friggin space ship, both in the camera and software. I've had both for only a couple weeks and haven't had much time to learn either one. I was enjoying the flight first and foremost, worrying about settings and composition was not a priority. As for Lightroom, I need to get a book or two. "Lightroom for Dummies" would probably be a good starting place G. Right now I just twiddle sliders and such until the picture looks somewhat better. Ctl-Z (undo) is my friend... I had the same vertical learning curve with a real copy of the full version of Photoshop back in the day. Ctrl-Z (or F12, revert) are still my friends on occasion. -- Win first, Fight later. --martial principle of the Samurai |
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"Steve B" wrote He was in the US Air Corps as a sergeant, a flight engineer. He had previously been a mechanic at oilfield businesses in Pennsylvania, starting out in Grandpa's garage making bootleg equipment. Sorry, make that "machinist" instead of "mechanic". Steve |
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Hey Jon.
Good stuff, and nice pix. Shots through the struts/wires can frame things nicely, so don't delete them. One question..you write "This is the last year I will be able to attend the local airshow at the Nevada County Airpark, " Wuzzup with that??? Take care. Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario. XXXXXXXXXXX On Sat, 09 Jul 2011 20:17:24 -0800, Jon Anderson wrote: This is the last year I will be able to attend the local airshow at the Nevada County Airpark, and finally owning a really good camera, I decided to make a day of it. Normally I'm in and out in an hour or two, but this year I took my time, getting some nice artsy photos. Happened to hear about a raffle for rides in a Waco biplane, so hustled over and bought a couple tickets. Hour or so later, I heard my name called over the PA, the last of 4 winners! I was the first to check in, so got the first ride. Don't know the exact year, but it was a very nice Waco UPF7, blue with yellow wings. My dad has a lot of time in Wacos and considers them his favorite biplane. So this was a real thrill, and my first ride in an open cockpit plane. There is just nothing quite like lazily cruising about 800', watching the scenery below slowly roll past! Jon |
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I'd gotten a card from Buzz, my pilot for the ride. Emailed him the link
to my FB album and said any images he wanted, I'd burn to CD and mail to him. He counteredd and said he'd be indebted to me for another ride if I sent him all the pics on CD. Yowza, not going to pass up an offer like that!!! Jon |
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