I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-
https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Some of these 'Seen on TV' gadgets work really well but not ALL of
them do, according to what I read.

TIA

Lewis.

*****

wrote:
I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-
https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Some of these 'Seen on TV' gadgets work really well but not ALL of
them do, according to what I read.

TIA

Lewis.

*****

"Order a Save A Blade today and we'll send you a 18-Piece His/Hers
Deluxe Grooming Kit, A $20 Value, FREE. Just pay $5.95"

WTF?

On Jul 23, 4:50*am, " wrote:
I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Some of these 'Seen on TV' gadgets work really well but not ALL of
them do, according to what I read.

TIA

Lewis.

*****

It is interesting that they will tell you the "free" grooming kit
costs $5.95, but they won't tell you the actual cost of the main
product unless you give them your credit card number and address etc.
Sure there is a price in a big font, but it isn't what you'd have to
pay. I seriously doubt that the product is any better than the
marketing.
The whole idea seems suspect, stropping or honing from only one side,
with no control over the angle, doesn't seem like a great plan.
if you Google "save a blade" + opinion; you will find a number of not
so positive comments.

On Jul 23, 8:25*am, "Bob's my cat" wrote:
On Jul 23, 4:50*am, " wrote:

I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Some of these 'Seen on TV' gadgets work really well but not ALL of
them do, according to what I read.

TIA

Lewis.

*****

It is interesting that they will tell you the "free" grooming kit
costs $5.95, but they won't tell you the actual cost of the main
product unless you give them your credit card number and address etc.
Sure there is a price in a big font, but it isn't what you'd have to
pay. I seriously doubt that the product is any better than the
marketing.
The whole idea seems suspect, stropping or honing from only one side,
with no control over the angle, doesn't seem like a great plan.
if you Google "save a blade" + opinion; you will find a number of not
so positive comments.

Thanks for your informative reply here, I appreciate it.

There didn't seem to be a lot of people who were happy with it, as you
pointed out but I have to wonder, did they really give it a fair try,
or were they more interested in criticizing the science behind it?

I think I'll go back to Walgreens again and check to see if it has any
kind of 'satisfaction' warranty.

Lewis.

*****

W. Stief wrote:
wrote:

I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-
https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Some of these 'Seen on TV' gadgets work really well but not ALL of
them do, according to what I read.

TIA

Lewis.

*****


"Order a Save A Blade today and we'll send you a 18-Piece His/Hers
Deluxe Grooming Kit, A $20 Value, FREE. Just pay $5.95"

WTF?



The product is "free" but you have to pay $5.95 "shipping and handling".
That's probably twice what the junk is worth to start with. I also like
those ads that say order one and we'll GIVE you a second one for free,
just pay seperate shipping and handling. They never seem to tell you
what the S&H is on TV. It's one of the latest scams by TV pitch people
to sell more ****.

Jim

My fav is the GTXpress101 Baker. Buy one, get 2nd free. Just 2 payments
of $19.95 +SH. Almost $70. total. You can buy a similar baker at
Walgreens for $10.
JR
Dweller in the cellar


Jim Chandler wrote:

W. Stief wrote:

wrote:

I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-
https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Some of these 'Seen on TV' gadgets work really well but not ALL of
them do, according to what I read.

TIA

Lewis.

*****



"Order a Save A Blade today and we'll send you a 18-Piece His/Hers
Deluxe Grooming Kit, A $20 Value, FREE. Just pay $5.95"

WTF?



The product is "free" but you have to pay $5.95 "shipping and handling".
That's probably twice what the junk is worth to start with. I also like
those ads that say order one and we'll GIVE you a second one for free,
just pay seperate shipping and handling. They never seem to tell you
what the S&H is on TV. It's one of the latest scams by TV pitch people
to sell more ****.

Jim

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" writes:

I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-
https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Is this like the one where you put a razer blade under a pyramid and
use "Pyramid Power" to extend the life of the blade? :-)

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:15:40 -0400, Maxwell Lol
wrote:

" writes:

I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-
https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Is this like the one where you put a razer blade under a pyramid and
use "Pyramid Power" to extend the life of the blade? :-)
Grandfather used to push the double edged blade around the inside of a
water glass with his finger.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

"Gerald Miller" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:15:40 -0400, Maxwell Lol
wrote:

" writes:

I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-
https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Is this like the one where you put a razer blade under a pyramid and
use "Pyramid Power" to extend the life of the blade? :-)
Grandfather used to push the double edged blade around the inside of a
water glass with his finger.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

And at one time you could buy hard Arkansas stones that were ground with a
hollow, made for re-sharpening double-edged blades. I haven't seen one of
those for a while -- oh, maybe 40 years now. g They were maybe 2-1/2
inches long, 1-3/4 inches wide.

They worked pretty well on the old carbon-steel blue blades. (Yes, those are
what I started shaving with.)

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:


And at one time you could buy hard Arkansas stones that were ground with a
hollow, made for re-sharpening double-edged blades. I haven't seen one of
those for a while -- oh, maybe 40 years now. g They were maybe 2-1/2
inches long, 1-3/4 inches wide.

They worked pretty well on the old carbon-steel blue blades. (Yes, those are
what I started shaving with.)

--
Ed Huntress



Slightly of thread, I have an old antique straight razor and need a
strop to sharpen it.

So what is so soecial about a strop?

Isn't it just a piece of hard yellow lattago leather?
Or is the something more to it?

--

Richard

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"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:


And at one time you could buy hard Arkansas stones that were ground with
a hollow, made for re-sharpening double-edged blades. I haven't seen one
of those for a while -- oh, maybe 40 years now. g They were maybe 2-1/2
inches long, 1-3/4 inches wide.

They worked pretty well on the old carbon-steel blue blades. (Yes, those
are what I started shaving with.)

--
Ed Huntress

Slightly of thread, I have an old antique straight razor and need a strop
to sharpen it.

So what is so soecial about a strop?

Isn't it just a piece of hard yellow lattago leather?
Or is the something more to it?

I got mine from a barber, who ordered it for me from his supplier. It's hard
leather on one side, a piece of coarse canvas of some kind on the other. On
his recommendation, I charged the leather side with red rouge, but I don't
think it really does anything. The leather side basically just turns the
edge.

I used to use whiting ("white diamond," which of course is not diamond at
all) to charge the canvas side, which is what it was charged with when I got
it, but now I use stainless steel polish. That definitely *does* do
something -- that polish cuts pretty quickly.

My two straight razors don't get any use since I shaved off my beard, but I
used them frequently a couple of decades ago. My black hard Arkansas stone
is the one I used to sharpen them, before stropping. If you don't sharpen
them on a hard stone, my experience is that the edge gets out of shape from
stropping alone, at least when you use abrasive on the strop.

I actually prefer to use a piece of tempered Masonite, charged with
stainless polish, for stropping them. After I arrived at that I started
using the Masonite and stainless polish to finish many of my edged tools.

--
Ed Huntress

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
m...
Ed Huntress wrote:


And at one time you could buy hard Arkansas stones that were ground with
a hollow, made for re-sharpening double-edged blades. I haven't seen one
of those for a while -- oh, maybe 40 years now. g They were maybe 2-1/2
inches long, 1-3/4 inches wide.

They worked pretty well on the old carbon-steel blue blades. (Yes, those
are what I started shaving with.)

--
Ed Huntress


I have one of those exact stones sitting here, new and unused, in a box - it
says "norton abrasives", "Safety blade hone VS 1" it has an instructoin
sheet, and the stone is green colored. it isn't really hollow ground (I've
seen those too) - this one has a shallow "V" in it - same principle.

I'd be happy to trade this "valuable collector item" for something of
slightly greater value to me - if anyone has a desperate urge to have one.
A gear cutter perhaps? or???


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Ed Huntress wrote:

Slightly of thread, I have an old antique straight razor and need a strop
to sharpen it.

So what is so soecial about a strop?

Isn't it just a piece of hard yellow lattago leather?
Or is the something more to it?


I got mine from a barber, who ordered it for me from his supplier. It's hard
leather on one side, a piece of coarse canvas of some kind on the other. On
his recommendation, I charged the leather side with red rouge, but I don't
think it really does anything. The leather side basically just turns the
edge.

I used to use whiting ("white diamond," which of course is not diamond at
all) to charge the canvas side, which is what it was charged with when I got
it, but now I use stainless steel polish. That definitely *does* do
something -- that polish cuts pretty quickly.

My two straight razors don't get any use since I shaved off my beard, but I
used them frequently a couple of decades ago. My black hard Arkansas stone
is the one I used to sharpen them, before stropping. If you don't sharpen
them on a hard stone, my experience is that the edge gets out of shape from
stropping alone, at least when you use abrasive on the strop.

I actually prefer to use a piece of tempered Masonite, charged with
stainless polish, for stropping them. After I arrived at that I started
using the Masonite and stainless polish to finish many of my edged tools.

--
Ed Huntress




As usual, timely ahd helpful.

Thanks Ed.


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"William Noble" wrote in
:

I have one of those exact stones sitting here, new and unused, in a
box - it says "norton abrasives", "Safety blade hone VS 1" it has an
instructoin sheet, and the stone is green colored. it isn't really
hollow ground (I've seen those too) - this one has a shallow "V" in it
- same principle.


What you have is a "Fisherman's" stone - the "V" is used to sharpen fish
hooks.

It can also be used with single-edged razor blades by placing the blade
(including the back) flat on the stone. (The back sets the angle for the
cutting edge.)

The "hollow ground" stone was for double-edged blades: the pressure of the
finger against the center of the blade (needed to press it into the hollow)
helped to both provide adequate contact between the stone and to insure
that the angle of the blade was maintained.

On Jul 25, 2:01 pm, "RAM³" wrote:
"William Noble" wrote :

I have one of those exact stones sitting here, new and unused, in a
box - it says "norton abrasives", "Safety blade hone VS 1" it has an
instructoin sheet, and the stone is green colored. it isn't really
hollow ground (I've seen those too) - this one has a shallow "V" in it
- same principle.

What you have is a "Fisherman's" stone - the "V" is used to sharpen fish
hooks.

It can also be used with single-edged razor blades by placing the blade
(including the back) flat on the stone. (The back sets the angle for the
cutting edge.)

The "hollow ground" stone was for double-edged blades: the pressure of the
finger against the center of the blade (needed to press it into the hollow)
helped to both provide adequate contact between the stone and to insure
that the angle of the blade was maintained.

Speaking of old razors, my Dad used to have a 'Rolls Razor', back
around the late 40's - early 50's:-

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/dailyt...H-0032?gbase=1

I wasn't quite old enough to shave then but found it to be an
interesting gadget.

Lewis.

*****

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:21:40 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Jul 25, 2:01 pm, "RAM³" wrote:
"William Noble" wrote :

I have one of those exact stones sitting here, new and unused, in a
box - it says "norton abrasives", "Safety blade hone VS 1" it has an
instructoin sheet, and the stone is green colored. it isn't really
hollow ground (I've seen those too) - this one has a shallow "V" in it
- same principle.

What you have is a "Fisherman's" stone - the "V" is used to sharpen fish
hooks.

It can also be used with single-edged razor blades by placing the blade
(including the back) flat on the stone. (The back sets the angle for the
cutting edge.)

The "hollow ground" stone was for double-edged blades: the pressure of the
finger against the center of the blade (needed to press it into the hollow)
helped to both provide adequate contact between the stone and to insure
that the angle of the blade was maintained.

Speaking of old razors, my Dad used to have a 'Rolls Razor', back
around the late 40's - early 50's:-

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/dailyt...H-0032?gbase=1

I wasn't quite old enough to shave then but found it to be an
interesting gadget.

Lewis.
My Dad used the Valet Autostrop, but never used the auto strop
feature. He put in a new blade twice a year, claimed that washing with
Camay soap before lathering up made his blades last three times as
long as using any other soap.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On 2008-07-25, wrote:

[ ... ]

Speaking of old razors, my Dad used to have a 'Rolls Razor', back
around the late 40's - early 50's:-

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/dailyt...H-0032?gbase=1

I wasn't quite old enough to shave then but found it to be an
interesting gadget.

I've got one, and used it until I decided that there wasn't
enough time in the day to bother shaving. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Jul 25, 6:04*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2008-07-25, wrote:

* * * * [ ... ]

Speaking of old razors, my Dad used to have a 'Rolls Razor', back
around the late 40's - early 50's:-

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/dailyt...H-0032?gbase=1

I wasn't quite old enough to shave then but found it to be an
interesting gadget.

* * * * I've got one, and used it until I decided that there wasn't
enough time in the day to bother shaving. *:-)

* * * * Enjoy,
* * * * * * * * DoN.

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I've got my Grandfathers and it never seemed to get sharp enough to
use. Could you explain the sharpening procedure. I still shave my
neck.
Thanks
Karl

On 2008-07-26, wrote:
On Jul 25, 6:04*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2008-07-25, wrote:

* * * * [ ... ]

Speaking of old razors, my Dad used to have a 'Rolls Razor', back
around the late 40's - early 50's:-

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/dailyt...H-0032?gbase=1

I wasn't quite old enough to shave then but found it to be an
interesting gadget.

* * * * I've got one, and used it until I decided that there wasn't
enough time in the day to bother shaving. *:-)

[ ... ]

I've got my Grandfathers and it never seemed to get sharp enough to
use. Could you explain the sharpening procedure. I still shave my
neck.

O.K.

1) Only very occasionally do you run it on the hone (the stone).
Note that the blade moves edge-leading along the stone, and edge
trailing along the strop.

2) Before every use (or after) run the blade a number of cycles on
the strop (the red coated leather insert). Every so often
(months I think), the strop should be re-dressed with jeweler's
rouge (which is where the red color comes from). The coating
should be thin and even. You may be able to find the strop
dressing compound through a barber, as they still use the
straight razor and strop it regularly.

You will probably have to run a lot more cycles on the strop
after a honing cycle.

3) Mount the blade in the handle, flip the guard to the side the
handle points to, lather and shave (carefully, this is not as
protected as a safety razor, though it is safer than a straight
razor.

4) Rise and wipe off the blade when your are done before
reinstalling it in the mechanism.

Note that even if you take both the hone and the strop out at
the same time, they are keyed so each will only go in the proper side,
so you don't push the blade edge-first into the leather.

Don't drop the hone on tile -- you will likely break that thin
stone.

Hmm ... why not take it to a barber who still uses the straight
razor and get his point of view on it. It has been something like
thirty years or more since I last shaved -- and I never had the
instruction sheet for mine, so it is mostly what I worked out on my own.
Maybe you should run water over the hone as you hone it, but I don't
know for sure.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Jul 26, 1:33*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2008-07-26, wrote:

On Jul 25, 6:04*pm, "DoN. Nichols" wrote:
On 2008-07-25, wrote:

* * * * [ ... ]

Speaking of old razors, my Dad used to have a 'Rolls Razor', back
around the late 40's - early 50's:-

http://www.rubylane.com/shops/dailyt...H-0032?gbase=1

I wasn't quite old enough to shave then but found it to be an
interesting gadget.

* * * * I've got one, and used it until I decided that there wasn't
enough time in the day to bother shaving. *:-)

* * * * [ ... ]

I've got my Grandfathers and it never seemed to get sharp enough to
use. Could you explain the sharpening procedure. I still shave my
neck.

* * * * O.K.

1) * * *Only very occasionally do you run it on the hone (the stone).
* * * * Note that the blade moves edge-leading along the stone, and edge
* * * * trailing along the strop.

2) * * *Before every use (or after) run the blade a number of cycles on
* * * * the strop (the red coated leather insert). *Every so often
* * * * (months I think), the strop should be re-dressed with jeweler's
* * * * rouge (which is where the red color comes from). *The coating
* * * * should be thin and even. *You may be able to find the strop
* * * * dressing compound through a barber, as they still use the
* * * * straight razor and strop it regularly.

* * * * You will probably have to run a lot more cycles on the strop
* * * * after a honing cycle.

3) * * *Mount the blade in the handle, flip the guard to the side the
* * * * handle points to, lather and shave (carefully, this is not as
* * * * protected as a safety razor, though it is safer than a straight
* * * * razor.

4) * * *Rise and wipe off the blade when your are done before
* * * * reinstalling it in the mechanism.

* * * * Note that even if you take both the hone and the strop out at
the same time, they are keyed so each will only go in the proper side,
so you don't push the blade edge-first into the leather.

* * * * Don't drop the hone on tile -- you will likely break that thin
stone.

* * * * Hmm ... why not take it to a barber who still uses the straight
razor and get his point of view on it. *It has been something like
thirty years or more since I last shaved -- and I never had the
instruction sheet for mine, so it is mostly what I worked out on my own.
Maybe you should run water over the hone as you hone it, but I don't
know for sure.

* * * * Enjoy,
* * * * * * * * DoN.

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Thanks. I dig out the jewlers rouge and give it a try.
Karl

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:20:49 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, "W.
Stief" quickly quoth:

wrote:
I've seen this razor sharpening tool in the sto-
https://www.saveabladesale.com/Default.aspx?mid=500487
and I'm hoping that someone who has used one would like to give me
their opinion of it.

Some of these 'Seen on TV' gadgets work really well but not ALL of
them do, according to what I read.

One of the -few- ASOTV devices (that I've seen and tried) which works
well is the set of stacking Tupperwarelike food storage canisters.
They were $39.95 on TV and I found some for $12 + $6 s/h on eBay a
couple years ago. 3 sets for the price of one ASOTV order.


"Order a Save A Blade today and we'll send you a 18-Piece His/Hers
Deluxe Grooming Kit, A $20 Value, FREE. Just pay $5.95"

WTF?

It's a spiffy $2 Chinese set (a "$50 value" according to the ad) and
probably costs $1.80 to ship.

This thing is a flap sander in a plastic housing. If that thing can
sharpen a razor to the factory standard sharpness, the factory
standard needs some serious tuning-up.

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