I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go from 1/4 to
3/16. A straight union. Know of anywhere I can get this? mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. google came up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the dimension? are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.

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Randy

"Randy333" wrote in message
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I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go from 1/4 to
3/16. A straight union. Know of anywhere I can get this? mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. google came up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the dimension? are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.



Suggest call your local hydraulic shop--ours is a Parker distributer and has
several hundred SF of shelves that are stocked with the various fittings.

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On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:21:56 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:


"Randy333" wrote in message
.. .
I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go from 1/4 to
3/16. A straight union. Know of anywhere I can get this? mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. google came up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the dimension? are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.



Suggest call your local hydraulic shop--ours is a Parker distributer and has
several hundred SF of shelves that are stocked with the various fittings.

My local Parker store says no go.

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Randy

Randy333 wrote:

I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go from 1/4 to
3/16. A straight union. Know of anywhere I can get this? mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. google came up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the dimension? are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.

Remove 333 to reply.
Randy

I'd imagine some place like Parker should have reference information
online.

Randy333 wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 10:21:56 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:


"Randy333" wrote in message
.. .
I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go from 1/4 to
3/16. A straight union. Know of anywhere I can get this? mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. google came up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the dimension? are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.



Suggest call your local hydraulic shop--ours is a Parker distributer and has
several hundred SF of shelves that are stocked with the various fittings.

My local Parker store says no go.

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Randy

I presume you can't replace the entire line end to end with a single
size and change out one of the end fittings?

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 13:08:01 -0400, Randy333
wrote:

I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go from 1/4 to
3/16. A straight union. Know of anywhere I can get this? mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. google came up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the dimension? are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.

Remove 333 to reply.
Randy

JIC 37 degree is available -- maybe you can modify the sealing face to
45 degrees.
http://brennaninc.com/ProductDisplay...tem=2403-04-03

For the ake of googling more suppliers, the 45d union is SAE 010101
series (Aeroquip 2060-); 37d union is SAE 070101(Aeroquip 2027-).

--
Ned Simmons

Randy333 wrote:
... fittingandadaptors.com

That should be http://fittingsandadapters.com/

... seems I might need to machine one,
I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.

I would take a 1/4 end from one fitting and a 3/16 from another, machine
mating surfaces on both & solder together. Rather than fuss with
cutting angles and threads.

Bob

On Jun 8, 11:08*am, Randy333 wrote:
I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go from 1/4 to
3/16. *A straight union. *Know of anywhere I can get this? *mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. * google came up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the dimension? *are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.

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Randy

Make your own adapter from two NPT to flare adapters and a coupler?
Have done odder things with flare fittings. Used to have an old-timey
hardware store that I could engineer on the fly that way. All the
brass stuff in one aisle and loose, so you could check threads and
fits.

Stan

Randy333 wrote:
I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go from 1/4 to
3/16. A straight union. Know of anywhere I can get this? mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. google came up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the dimension? are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.

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Randy

Swage out the 1/4 line and press the 3/16 into it. Sweat them together
and you're done.

Or visit an auto parts store and look at the brake line fittings.
Grab an Edelmann 146320 (Everco 46B, Weatherhead 46X3)
Also an Edelmann 148420 (Everco 48B, Weatherhead 48X3)
Make sure you get the nuts as well.

Those are a 3/16" to 1/8" pipe female and a 1/4" to 1/8" pipe male. Just
screw them together and you have your fitting.


--
Steve W.

Plumbing section of Home Depot, or a refrigeration supply
house.

Are you doing water or freon? Do you need to take it apart
again? Is flare essential, or can you use a coupling and
sweat solder? Swage and braze?

--
Christopher A. Young
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"Randy333" wrote in message
...
I need a flare fitting for 45 degree standard flare to go
from 1/4 to
3/16. A straight union. Know of anywhere I can get this?
mcmaster
struck out and so did fittingandadaptors.com. google came
up blank.
seems I might need to machine one, where do I find the
dimension? are
they in the Machinists handbook?

I know the threads are 3/8-24 and 7/16-20 but I would need
to know
shoulder lenghts from threrad to 45 degree seal surface.

Remove 333 to reply.
Randy

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 20:08:57 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Plumbing section of Home Depot, or a refrigeration supply
house.

Are you doing water or freon? Do you need to take it apart
again? Is flare essential, or can you use a coupling and
sweat solder? Swage and braze?


Thanks for all replies. It not for me. it's for a friend of mine.
It's for brakes on some kind of antique. I'll machine one out of SS
hex bar. I'm still learning my CNC lathe so it will be pratice.

He left me a note and some sample fittings. turns out it needs to be
3/16 tube x 37 deg to 7/16-20NF flat gasket to go to a wheel cylinder.
It was explained to me incorrectly the first time.

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Randy

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 08:04:40 -0400, Randy333
wrote:

On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 20:08:57 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Plumbing section of Home Depot, or a refrigeration supply
house.

Are you doing water or freon? Do you need to take it apart
again? Is flare essential, or can you use a coupling and
sweat solder? Swage and braze?


Thanks for all replies. It not for me. it's for a friend of mine.
It's for brakes on some kind of antique. I'll machine one out of SS
hex bar. I'm still learning my CNC lathe so it will be pratice.

He left me a note and some sample fittings. turns out it needs to be
3/16 tube x 37 deg to 7/16-20NF flat gasket to go to a wheel cylinder.
It was explained to me incorrectly the first time.

Remove 333 to reply.
Randy
Automotive fittings are not 37 degrees - they are 45 degrees - unless
he's using aircraft or industrial lines - which may or may not be
acceptable for automotive brake use.