SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working because of physical
or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest federal entitlement
plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number of beneficiaries
jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run out
of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...926111240.html

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 04:28:59 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:
snip
The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run out
of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.
snip
---------
Simple extrapolation of the revenue, deficit, and
expenditure lines for all levels of government in the US
from local/municipal to federal indicates a socio-economic
crackup within this time frame.

To be sure the FRB can monetize the debt so no one loses
even a single *PAPER* dollar, ala Weimar, but unless/until
the IRS code is significantly revised, corporate influence
drastically curbed, and stringent expenditure/personnal caps
at all levels of government enacted/enforced, SSDI
bankruptcy will be the least of the worries/problems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperin...eimar_Republic

Even with stringent expenditure/personnal caps, revision of
the IRS code, and other Draconian measures such as
Congressional refusal to increase the national debt limit,
severe dislocations and stresses are sure to occur, but less
than will occur if the current processes are allowed to run
to completion/exhaustion, and some form of recovery [but
things will never again be as they were] is sure to be much
more rapid, i.e. compare/contrast Ireland and Iceland.


-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).

"azotic" wrote in message
...
SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working because of
physical or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest federal
entitlement plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number of
beneficiaries jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...926111240.html

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"azotic" wrote in message
...
SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working because of
physical or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest federal
entitlement plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number of
beneficiaries jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...926111240.html

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.


Yeah, people just love being disabled...

They are quitting their jobs, losing their houses & cars, and having their
families fractured so that they can enjoy the privilege of shopping with
food stamps and having to beg for gas money only to have their driver
license revolved for driving to the the welfare office without valid auto
insurance.......having to sleep in their mothers garage, to idly spend their
free time shivering at the freeway on-amp begging for a hand-out in freezing
weather...

Yup--it's great fun enduring constant pain from rotten teeth and having to
collect aluminum cans and walk 4 miles to the metal recyclers in order to
buy a used tire for a 30 year old beat up oil burning gas guzzler so that
you can get to the the home depot and beg for under-the-table work as a
casual laborer ...or to not be able to read because your eyeglasses broke
and you can't afford a new pair of glasses.

Damn straight--It's the new American Dream....and people are lining up for
it, taking numbers..

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 09:41:50 -0800, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:


"Steve B" wrote in message
...

"azotic" wrote in message
...
SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working because of
physical or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest federal
entitlement plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number of
beneficiaries jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...926111240.html

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.


Yeah, people just love being disabled...

They are quitting their jobs, losing their houses & cars, and having their
families fractured so that they can enjoy the privilege of shopping with
food stamps and having to beg for gas money only to have their driver
license revolved for driving to the the welfare office without valid auto
insurance.......having to sleep in their mothers garage, to idly spend their
free time shivering at the freeway on-amp begging for a hand-out in freezing
weather...

Yup--it's great fun enduring constant pain from rotten teeth and having to
collect aluminum cans and walk 4 miles to the metal recyclers in order to
buy a used tire for a 30 year old beat up oil burning gas guzzler so that
you can get to the the home depot and beg for under-the-table work as a
casual laborer ...or to not be able to read because your eyeglasses broke
and you can't afford a new pair of glasses.

Damn straight--It's the new American Dream....and people are lining up for
it, taking numbers..


That is astounding, have you been through that?

I have. Even had to move cause the cop knew I needed the glasses. & I
had a job.


SW

On Mar 27, 11:03*am, "Steve B" wrote:
"azotic" wrote in message

...





SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working because of
physical or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest federal
entitlement plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number of
beneficiaries jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57622270192611...

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?www.cabgbypasssurgery.com- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

....and companies.

They are called "tax cuts".

And Republicans LOVE them.

TMT

On Mar 27, 12:41*pm, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message

...







"azotic" wrote in message
...
SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working because of
physical or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest federal
entitlement plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number of
beneficiaries jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57622270192611....

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.

Yeah, people just love being disabled...

They are quitting their jobs, losing their houses & cars, and having their
families fractured so that they can enjoy the privilege of shopping with
food stamps and having to beg for gas money only to have their driver
license revolved for driving to the the welfare office without valid auto
insurance.......having to sleep in their mothers garage, to idly spend their
free time shivering at the freeway on-amp begging for a hand-out in freezing
weather...

Yup--it's great fun enduring constant pain from rotten teeth and having to
collect aluminum cans and *walk 4 miles to the metal recyclers in order to
buy a used tire for a 30 year old beat up oil burning gas guzzler so that
you can get to the the home depot and beg for under-the-table work as a
casual laborer ...or to not be able to read because your eyeglasses broke
and you can't afford a new pair of glasses.

Damn straight--It's the new American Dream....and people are lining up for
it, taking numbers..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's the Republican Wet Dream for America.

Notice the Republicans haven't done a damn thing to encourage job
creation...but they have plenty of time to waste on Religious Right
BS.

TMT

F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 04:28:59 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:
snip
The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.
snip
---------
Simple extrapolation of the revenue, deficit, and
expenditure lines for all levels of government in the US
from local/municipal to federal indicates a socio-economic
crackup within this time frame.

It seems like no matter what graph you look at these days, it looks
like some kind of "hockey stick."

Here's a kind of scary one:
http://www.thoughtfulhouse.org/tech-...ies/autism.php

Wouldn't it be interesting to have some mathematician determine if
these graphs are merely exponential, or asymptotic? (with the asymptote
itself at, say, 12/12/12) :-

Cheers!
Rich

F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 04:28:59 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:
snip
The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.
snip
---------
Simple extrapolation of the revenue, deficit, and
expenditure lines for all levels of government in the US
from local/municipal to federal indicates a socio-economic
crackup within this time frame.

To be sure the FRB can monetize the debt so no one loses
even a single *PAPER* dollar, ala Weimar, but unless/until
the IRS code is significantly revised,

Tax the Rich and Fire the IRS in One Swell Foop!
http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/TaxTheRich!.html

Cheers!
Rich

Steve B wrote:

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.

But yet, there are still people who believe that socialism can
possibly "work."

Thanks,
Rich

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Mar 27, 12:41 pm, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:
"Steve wrote in message

...







wrote in message
...
SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working because of
physical or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest federal
entitlement plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number of
beneficiaries jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57622270192611...

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.

Yeah, people just love being disabled...

They are quitting their jobs, losing their houses& cars, and having their
families fractured so that they can enjoy the privilege of shopping with
food stamps and having to beg for gas money only to have their driver
license revolved for driving to the the welfare office without valid auto
insurance.......having to sleep in their mothers garage, to idly spend their
free time shivering at the freeway on-amp begging for a hand-out in freezing
weather...

Yup--it's great fun enduring constant pain from rotten teeth and having to
collect aluminum cans and walk 4 miles to the metal recyclers in order to
buy a used tire for a 30 year old beat up oil burning gas guzzler so that
you can get to the the home depot and beg for under-the-table work as a
casual laborer ...or to not be able to read because your eyeglasses broke
and you can't afford a new pair of glasses.

Damn straight--It's the new American Dream....and people are lining up for
it, taking numbers..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's the Republican Wet Dream for America.

Notice the Republicans haven't done a damn thing to encourage job
creation...but they have plenty of time to waste on Religious Right
BS.

TMT


In the last six months i have had about eight phone calls of people
"looking " for a job. In reality they just wanted a name for their
unemployment office so they could continue getting benefits. What
****es me off most is that one guy said that he paid in to UC and he
deserved the money back. I as an employer pay in except for maybe a
..0006 percent contribution by the employee, which amounts to about 25
bucks a year. Did you ever watch who parks in the handicapped parking
places. Most of them are a bunch of fakers just like a lot of the
people on the government dole, and the ones that really need the help
don't get it.

John

John wrote:
In the last six months i have had about eight phone calls of people
"looking " for a job. In reality they just wanted a name for their
unemployment office so they could continue getting benefits. What
****es me off most is that one guy said that he paid in to UC and he
deserved the money back. I as an employer pay in except for maybe a
.0006 percent contribution by the employee, which amounts to about 25
bucks a year. Did you ever watch who parks in the handicapped
parking places. Most of them are a bunch of fakers just like a lot
of the people on the government dole, and the ones that really need
the help don't get it.

John

Since it looked like as much or more work to get an extension at the end
of my 6 months of U/C checks , I started a handyman business . Not doing so
well , as everyone else is as broke as I am , but I'm tryin' . And my wife
absolutely LOVES comin' home from work to the aroma of dinner on the stove
(or grill ...) .
Now that the weather has warmed up some , I'm getting more calls , but
it's still pretty slim pickin's . Looks like I'll have plenty of time for he
garden again this year...
--
Snag
Lettuce is
up already !

Snag wrote:
John wrote:
In the last six months i have had about eight phone calls of people
"looking " for a job. In reality they just wanted a name for their
unemployment office so they could continue getting benefits. What
****es me off most is that one guy said that he paid in to UC and he
deserved the money back. I as an employer pay in except for maybe a
.0006 percent contribution by the employee, which amounts to about 25
bucks a year. Did you ever watch who parks in the handicapped
parking places. Most of them are a bunch of fakers just like a lot
of the people on the government dole, and the ones that really need
the help don't get it.

John

Since it looked like as much or more work to get an extension at the end
of my 6 months of U/C checks , I started a handyman business . Not doing so
well , as everyone else is as broke as I am , but I'm tryin' . And my wife
absolutely LOVES comin' home from work to the aroma of dinner on the stove
(or grill ...) .
Now that the weather has warmed up some , I'm getting more calls , but
it's still pretty slim pickin's . Looks like I'll have plenty of time for he
garden again this year...


Almost everyone I have ever hired has been a walk in or by reference
from someone I know. I have a bunch of projects sitting, waiting to get
done but I don't have the time to micro supervise someone that can't
think on his own two feet. I hired one person about two months ago
who was out of work. Very good person with good work ethics. He is that
good that I gave him a big raise beginning next month. I don't want to
loose a good worker.

If I were looking for handyman work I would try the smaller commercial
businesses.



John

amdx wrote:
"Rich wrote in message
...
F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 04:28:59 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:
snip
The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.
snip
---------
Simple extrapolation of the revenue, deficit, and
expenditure lines for all levels of government in the US
from local/municipal to federal indicates a socio-economic
crackup within this time frame.

To be sure the FRB can monetize the debt so no one loses
even a single *PAPER* dollar, ala Weimar, but unless/until
the IRS code is significantly revised,

Tax the Rich and Fire the IRS in One Swell Foop!
http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/TaxTheRich!.html

Cheers!
Rich

"But DO tax all Wall St. transactions."
"Let me repeat that:"
"Tax all Wall St. transactions at the same retail rate as cited above."

So you want my investments to cost me more?
I don't like you anymore!
I've saved and invested all my life, I don't want your class envy to cost
me.
It's not easy to save money, that's why the average net worth is less then
$100k,
even after a 40 years of work.
Mikek
PS, Tell me a joke and you might get back on my good side. ;-)
You want to make it more difficult to get ahead




Put a cutoff on the tax say tax any transaction over a million or
combined transactions of five million. Bring back the short term
capital gain tax on commodities and stock trades. Make to oil
speculation pay a little tax money.


John

On 3/27/2011 7:29 PM, John wrote:
amdx wrote:
"Rich wrote in message
...
F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 04:28:59 -0700, "azotic"
wrote:
snip
The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to
run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.
snip
---------
Simple extrapolation of the revenue, deficit, and
expenditure lines for all levels of government in the US
from local/municipal to federal indicates a socio-economic
crackup within this time frame.

To be sure the FRB can monetize the debt so no one loses
even a single *PAPER* dollar, ala Weimar, but unless/until
the IRS code is significantly revised,

Tax the Rich and Fire the IRS in One Swell Foop!
http://mysite.verizon.net/richgrise/TaxTheRich!.html

Cheers!
Rich

"But DO tax all Wall St. transactions."
"Let me repeat that:"
"Tax all Wall St. transactions at the same retail rate as cited above."

So you want my investments to cost me more?
I don't like you anymore!
I've saved and invested all my life, I don't want your class envy to cost
me.
It's not easy to save money, that's why the average net worth is less
then
$100k,
even after a 40 years of work.
Mikek
PS, Tell me a joke and you might get back on my good side. ;-)
You want to make it more difficult to get ahead




Put a cutoff on the tax say tax any transaction over a million or
combined transactions of five million. Bring back the short term capital
gain tax on commodities and stock trades. Make to oil speculation pay a
little tax money.


John

put a time rated capital gains tax - for assets held less than a day,
95%, for assets held over a decade, 5% - that will change wall street's
outlook from the next quarter to about 5 to 7 years out and do wonders
for our econonomy

--
www.wbnoble.com

"Snag" wrote in message
...
John wrote:
Snag wrote:
John wrote:
In the last six months i have had about eight phone calls of people
"looking " for a job. In reality they just wanted a name for their
unemployment office so they could continue getting benefits. What
****es me off most is that one guy said that he paid in to UC and he
deserved the money back. I as an employer pay in except for maybe a
.0006 percent contribution by the employee, which amounts to about
25 bucks a year. Did you ever watch who parks in the handicapped
parking places. Most of them are a bunch of fakers just like a lot
of the people on the government dole, and the ones that really need
the help don't get it.

John

Since it looked like as much or more work to get an extension at
the end of my 6 months of U/C checks , I started a handyman business
. Not doing so well , as everyone else is as broke as I am , but I'm
tryin' . And my wife absolutely LOVES comin' home from work to the
aroma of dinner on the stove (or grill ...) .
Now that the weather has warmed up some , I'm getting more calls
, but it's still pretty slim pickin's . Looks like I'll have plenty
of time for he garden again this year...


Almost everyone I have ever hired has been a walk in or by reference
from someone I know. I have a bunch of projects sitting, waiting to
get done but I don't have the time to micro supervise someone that
can't think on his own two feet. I hired one person about two
months ago who was out of work. Very good person with good work
ethics. He is that good that I gave him a big raise beginning next
month. I don't want to loose a good worker.

If I were looking for handyman work I would try the smaller commercial
businesses.



John

I'm hooked up with a property mgmt co. and a couple of hardware stores .
This time of year has always been kinda rough for small business
repair/handyman types in this area .

--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !

Go to www.vrbo.com It is a vacation rental system that we list our houses
with. Contact people in your area directly about doing on call repairs for
them. I have always thought that would be a good gig. We have a couple
that live on site that we're very pleased with. Before getting them, it was
Russian roulette getting a good repair person.

And don't come whining if you get busier than you want to be. They are
always looking for a dependable reliable affordable sober repair guy.

Yer welcome.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com

Steve B wrote:
"Snag" wrote in message
...
John wrote:
Snag wrote:
John wrote:
In the last six months i have had about eight phone calls of
people "looking " for a job. In reality they just wanted a name
for their unemployment office so they could continue getting
benefits. What ****es me off most is that one guy said that he
paid in to UC and he deserved the money back. I as an employer
pay in except for maybe a .0006 percent contribution by the
employee, which amounts to about 25 bucks a year. Did you ever
watch who parks in the handicapped parking places. Most of them
are a bunch of fakers just like a lot of the people on the
government dole, and the ones that really need the help don't get
it. John

Since it looked like as much or more work to get an extension at
the end of my 6 months of U/C checks , I started a handyman
business . Not doing so well , as everyone else is as broke as I
am , but I'm tryin' . And my wife absolutely LOVES comin' home
from work to the aroma of dinner on the stove (or grill ...) .
Now that the weather has warmed up some , I'm getting more calls
, but it's still pretty slim pickin's . Looks like I'll have plenty
of time for he garden again this year...


Almost everyone I have ever hired has been a walk in or by reference
from someone I know. I have a bunch of projects sitting, waiting to
get done but I don't have the time to micro supervise someone that
can't think on his own two feet. I hired one person about two
months ago who was out of work. Very good person with good work
ethics. He is that good that I gave him a big raise beginning next
month. I don't want to loose a good worker.

If I were looking for handyman work I would try the smaller
commercial businesses.



John

I'm hooked up with a property mgmt co. and a couple of hardware
stores . This time of year has always been kinda rough for small
business repair/handyman types in this area .

--
Snag
Learning keeps
you young !

Go to www.vrbo.com It is a vacation rental system that we list our
houses with. Contact people in your area directly about doing on
call repairs for them. I have always thought that would be a good
gig. We have a couple that live on site that we're very pleased
with. Before getting them, it was Russian roulette getting a good
repair person.
And don't come whining if you get busier than you want to be. They
are always looking for a dependable reliable affordable sober repair
guy.
Yer welcome.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com

Thanks Steve !

--
Snag
Who said I
was sober ?

"John" wrote in message
...
"looking " for a job. In reality they just wanted a name for their
unemployment office so they could continue getting benefits. What
****es me off most is that one guy said that he paid in to UC and he
deserved the money back. I as an employer pay in except for maybe a .0006
percent contribution by the employee, which amounts to about 25 bucks a
year.

Actually, they *did pay into it--in the form of having to accept lower
wages...

( Though it's doubtful many business owners would pass along the savings )

--The sad truth is that far too many folks lack a meaningful safety net in
the way of personal savings...Besides, the end result is basically the same
( it leaves the ex-employee in need of *some sort of assistance )

Biggest difference probably being that unemployment insurance also provides
the employer with an incentive to at least try and be responsible in not
treating the labor pool as if it were an old pair of worn out socks.

--

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going
out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.

But yet, there are still people who believe that socialism can
possibly "work."


Suggest you REALLY should get a dictionary--and look up the meaning of the
word "socialism"...

( Because apparently, you are clueless )

FWIW:

Socialism is working out very well for citizens who reside in the State of
Alaska ( oil royalty checks )...

--

"PrecisionmachinisT" wrote in message
...

"Rich Grise" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going
out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.

But yet, there are still people who believe that socialism can
possibly "work."


Suggest you REALLY should get a dictionary--and look up the meaning of the
word "socialism"...

( Because apparently, you are clueless )

FWIW:

Socialism is working out very well for citizens who reside in the State of
Alaska ( oil royalty checks )...

tyvm, and I love you too.

Steve B wrote:

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going
out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.


Then Rich Grise spewed:

But yet, there are still people who believe that socialism can
possibly "work."



To which PrecisionMachinist (an acronym for someone with a short dick)
added:

Suggest you REALLY should get a dictionary--and look up the meaning of
the word "socialism"...

( Because apparently, you are clueless )

FWIW:

Socialism is working out very well for citizens who reside in the State
of Alaska ( oil royalty checks )...

Suggest you put down that crack pipe and post something that at least flows
like a conversation. Or learn how to snip. Or quit answering that nutjob
Grise. WTF does what you have to say relate to what I said?

Nothing.

Now, go get your unemployment check and food stamps, and run over and pick
up a few rocks while yer out.

Yer out of here.

Steve

Heart surgery pending?
www.cabgbypasssurgery.com

John wrote:

Too_Many_Tools wrote:
On Mar 27, 12:41 pm, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:
"Steve wrote in message

...







wrote in message
...
SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working because of
physical or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest federal
entitlement plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number of
beneficiaries jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is projected to run
out of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57622270192611...

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.

Yeah, people just love being disabled...

They are quitting their jobs, losing their houses& cars, and having their
families fractured so that they can enjoy the privilege of shopping with
food stamps and having to beg for gas money only to have their driver
license revolved for driving to the the welfare office without valid auto
insurance.......having to sleep in their mothers garage, to idly spend their
free time shivering at the freeway on-amp begging for a hand-out in freezing
weather...

Yup--it's great fun enduring constant pain from rotten teeth and having to
collect aluminum cans and walk 4 miles to the metal recyclers in order to
buy a used tire for a 30 year old beat up oil burning gas guzzler so that
you can get to the the home depot and beg for under-the-table work as a
casual laborer ...or to not be able to read because your eyeglasses broke
and you can't afford a new pair of glasses.

Damn straight--It's the new American Dream....and people are lining up for
it, taking numbers..- Hide quoted text -

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It's the Republican Wet Dream for America.

Notice the Republicans haven't done a damn thing to encourage job
creation...but they have plenty of time to waste on Religious Right
BS.

TMT

In the last six months i have had about eight phone calls of people
"looking " for a job. In reality they just wanted a name for their
unemployment office so they could continue getting benefits. What
****es me off most is that one guy said that he paid in to UC and he
deserved the money back. I as an employer pay in except for maybe a
.0006 percent contribution by the employee, which amounts to about 25
bucks a year. Did you ever watch who parks in the handicapped parking
places.


New luxury cars, and the occupants all seem to walk well without a
cane or walker. Then I end up having to park on the far side of the lot
and limp in on a cane.


Most of them are a bunch of fakers just like a lot of the
people on the government dole, and the ones that really need the help
don't get it.


I have been hauling a Veteran Air Force nurse to her VA
appointments. She ruined her back lifting patients, but SSDI still
hasn't made a decison, in the six+ years since she filed. She has to
make frequent trips to the VA hospital to the pain clinic, and the only
help she gets is food stamps. She let some ass convince her that she
couldn't file through the VA, and can't now, unless SS makes a decision
against her.


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

"." wrote:


In the last six months i have had about eight phone calls of people
"looking " for a job. In reality they just wanted a name for their
unemployment office so they could continue getting benefits. What ****es
me off most is that one guy said that he paid in to UC and he deserved
the money back. I as an employer pay in except for maybe a .0006 percent
contribution by the employee, which amounts to about 25 bucks a year.
Did you ever watch who parks in the handicapped parking places. Most of
them are a bunch of fakers just like a lot of the people on the
government dole, and the ones that really need the help don't get it.

John

IMHO, anyone parking in a handicapped place who is in fact not so
entitled should be offered two alternatives - forefit the car, or suffer
an injury that would allow parking in the place.


It got so bad in Florida that any doctor who issues a fake letter can
lose his license to practice medicine. It took me almost 5 years to get
one, even though I had trouble walking for over 10 years. That is the
reason a lot of my power tools are modified for handicap use.


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

"Steve B" wrote in message
...

Steve B wrote:

When you make getting free money from the government easier than going
out
and getting a job, it brings out the worst in people.


Then Rich Grise spewed:

But yet, there are still people who believe that socialism can
possibly "work."



To which PrecisionMachinist (an acronym for someone with a short dick)
added:

Suggest you REALLY should get a dictionary--and look up the meaning of
the word "socialism"...

( Because apparently, you are clueless )

FWIW:

Socialism is working out very well for citizens who reside in the State
of Alaska ( oil royalty checks )...

Suggest you put down that crack pipe and post something that at least
flows like a conversation. Or learn how to snip. Or quit answering that
nutjob Grise. WTF does what you have to say relate to what I said?


Go **** yourself.

Nothing.


Correct.

See, my reply was to Rich....


Now, go get your unemployment check and food stamps, and run over and pick
up a few rocks while yer out.


I have never in my life recieved food stamps and I have never collected
unemployment except for one time back in 1982 when I left the US Air Force.

For about 6 weeks.

Yer out of here.

The main cornerstone of socialisim is having government control over energy
production.

--Something which the State of Alaska has perfected...

So, the federal debt is up to 14 trillion or some such
figure. And we're writing stories about SSDI going broke?
When will someone write about how the USA Federal government
is broke?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"azotic" wrote in message
...
SSDI, created to assist people who have stopped working
because of physical
or mental-health problems, has become one of the largest
federal entitlement
plans, paying $124 billion of benefits in 2010. The number
of beneficiaries
jumped to 10.2 million in 2010 from 6.6 million in 2000.

The program's spending has grown so rapidly that it is
projected to run out
of money in four to seven years unless Congress intervenes.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...926111240.html

One might think some people are willing to commit

fraud when thier unemployment insurance runs out.

Best Regards

Tom.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
So, the federal debt is up to 14 trillion or some such
figure. And we're writing stories about SSDI going broke?
When will someone write about how the USA Federal government
is broke?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus

SSDI is the only saftey net some people have when they
are injured and can not work. Think self employed with
no disability insurance.

Best Regards
Tom.

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 05:16:09 -0700, "azotic" wrote:


"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
So, the federal debt is up to 14 trillion or some such
figure. And we're writing stories about SSDI going broke?
When will someone write about how the USA Federal government
is broke?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus

SSDI is the only saftey net some people have when they
are injured and can not work. Think self employed with
no disability insurance.

Best Regards
Tom.

Who...me?

Gunner

--

"You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once."
Robert A. Heinlein