I get promotional emails from Rutland Tool, and they have a sale going on
that caught my eye:

http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/wcsst.../Rutland_Email
s/OB115.html

Down at the bottom, they have a Noga Flex Gage Holder marked down from
$99.17 to $53.95 (have to use promotion code OB115 at checkout).

I've had one of these for about 15 years, and it is the one I use almost
all the time. It's very easy to set up at weird angles, has a good reach,
and it's plenty rigid once it's locked down. It's also the smallest
magnetic base I've seen with the quick release button. I think I paid
close to $75 for mine, and considered it a good deal.

No relationship to Rutland, etc. If I didn't already have one, I'd snap
this up in an instant. As it is, I had to wrestle with whether I really
had any use for a second one.

Doug White

In article ,
Doug White wrote:

I get promotional emails from Rutland Tool, and they have a sale going on
that caught my eye:

http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/wcsstore/Rutland/RutlandUpload/Rutland_Emails/OB115.html

Down at the bottom, they have a Noga Flex Gage Holder marked down from
$99.17 to $53.95 (have to use promotion code OB115 at checkout).

I've had one of these for about 15 years, and it is the one I use almost
all the time. It's very easy to set up at weird angles, has a good reach,
and it's plenty rigid once it's locked down. It's also the smallest
magnetic base I've seen with the quick release button. I think I paid
close to $75 for mine, and considered it a good deal.

No relationship to Rutland, etc. If I didn't already have one, I'd snap
this up in an instant. As it is, I had to wrestle with whether I really
had any use for a second one.

I've always wondered how well those things worked, in particular how
firmly the clamps prevent creeping, and how firmly the magnet sticks to
a cast iron table.

Is the reach really only 2.2+2= 4.2 inches?

Joe Gwinn

Joseph Gwinn wrote in
:

In article ,
Doug White wrote:

I get promotional emails from Rutland Tool, and they have a sale
going on that caught my eye:

http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/wcsst...Upload/Rutland
_Emails/OB115.html

Down at the bottom, they have a Noga Flex Gage Holder marked down
from $99.17 to $53.95 (have to use promotion code OB115 at checkout).

I've had one of these for about 15 years, and it is the one I use
almost all the time. It's very easy to set up at weird angles, has a
good reach, and it's plenty rigid once it's locked down. It's also
the smallest magnetic base I've seen with the quick release button.
I think I paid close to $75 for mine, and considered it a good deal.

No relationship to Rutland, etc. If I didn't already have one, I'd
snap this up in an instant. As it is, I had to wrestle with whether
I really had any use for a second one.

I've always wondered how well those things worked, in particular how
firmly the clamps prevent creeping, and how firmly the magnet sticks
to a cast iron table.

Is the reach really only 2.2+2= 4.2 inches?

That's the length of the arm. My indicators add a couple inches to that,
and depending on how you set it up, the base adds a bit of height as
well. I've hardly ever had an issue with it not reaching. Mostly I use
it to center stuff on my lathe, and it's planty long enough for that.
When locked down, it's quite rigid. I've also used the Flexbar holders.
The small ones aren't nearly as nice as this unit, and the next step up
is huge by comparison.

http://www.flexbar.com/shop/pc/FLEXB...itioning-Arms-
c69.htm

When you unlock these, they flop all over. I find the two rigid arms
easier to deal with.

Doug White

In article ,
Doug White wrote:

Joseph Gwinn wrote in
:

In article ,
Doug White wrote:

I get promotional emails from Rutland Tool, and they have a sale
going on that caught my eye:

http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/wcsst...Upload/Rutland
_Emails/OB115.html

Down at the bottom, they have a Noga Flex Gage Holder marked down
from $99.17 to $53.95 (have to use promotion code OB115 at checkout).

I've had one of these for about 15 years, and it is the one I use
almost all the time. It's very easy to set up at weird angles, has a
good reach, and it's plenty rigid once it's locked down. It's also
the smallest magnetic base I've seen with the quick release button.
I think I paid close to $75 for mine, and considered it a good deal.

No relationship to Rutland, etc. If I didn't already have one, I'd
snap this up in an instant. As it is, I had to wrestle with whether
I really had any use for a second one.

I've always wondered how well those things worked, in particular how
firmly the clamps prevent creeping, and how firmly the magnet sticks
to a cast iron table.

Is the reach really only 2.2+2= 4.2 inches?

That's the length of the arm. My indicators add a couple inches to that,
and depending on how you set it up, the base adds a bit of height as
well. I've hardly ever had an issue with it not reaching. Mostly I use
it to center stuff on my lathe, and it's planty long enough for that.

It's a little short for my uses.


When locked down, it's quite rigid.

That's good to know. That was my worry.


I've also used the Flexbar holders.
The small ones aren't nearly as nice as this unit, and the next step up
is huge by comparison.

http://www.flexbar.com/shop/pc/FLEXBAR-Universal-Holder-Positioning-Arms-c69.htm

When you unlock these, they flop all over. I find the two rigid arms
easier to deal with.

I have one of these, bought used. It does work, but is a bit springy,
and will droop if not perfectly adjusted. I did take it apart and clean
it, which helped a lot.

Joe Gwinn

On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:21:06 -0500, Joseph Gwinn
wrote:

In article ,
Doug White wrote:

Joseph Gwinn wrote in
:

In article ,
Doug White wrote:

I get promotional emails from Rutland Tool, and they have a sale
going on that caught my eye:

http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/wcsst...Upload/Rutland
_Emails/OB115.html

Down at the bottom, they have a Noga Flex Gage Holder marked down
from $99.17 to $53.95 (have to use promotion code OB115 at checkout).

I've had one of these for about 15 years, and it is the one I use
almost all the time. It's very easy to set up at weird angles, has a
good reach, and it's plenty rigid once it's locked down. It's also
the smallest magnetic base I've seen with the quick release button.
I think I paid close to $75 for mine, and considered it a good deal.

No relationship to Rutland, etc. If I didn't already have one, I'd
snap this up in an instant. As it is, I had to wrestle with whether
I really had any use for a second one.

I've always wondered how well those things worked, in particular how
firmly the clamps prevent creeping, and how firmly the magnet sticks
to a cast iron table.

Is the reach really only 2.2+2= 4.2 inches?

That's the length of the arm. My indicators add a couple inches to that,
and depending on how you set it up, the base adds a bit of height as
well. I've hardly ever had an issue with it not reaching. Mostly I use
it to center stuff on my lathe, and it's planty long enough for that.

It's a little short for my uses.


When locked down, it's quite rigid.

That's good to know. That was my worry.


I've also used the Flexbar holders.
The small ones aren't nearly as nice as this unit, and the next step up
is huge by comparison.

http://www.flexbar.com/shop/pc/FLEXBAR-Universal-Holder-Positioning-Arms-c69.htm

When you unlock these, they flop all over. I find the two rigid arms
easier to deal with.

I have one of these, bought used. It does work, but is a bit springy,
and will droop if not perfectly adjusted. I did take it apart and clean
it, which helped a lot.


I designed this with the Noga holders in mind, though the central
clamping mechanism is different. The arms are 12" long, and it'll
resist about 40 lbf at full reach.
http://www.nedsim.com/news/Arm00.JPG
http://www.nedsim.com/news/Arm03.JPG

The key is getting the bending in the arms right, such that the leaves
at the central joint come together only after there's adequate
clamping force on the balls at the ends, but before reaching the yield
point of the steel.

Has anyone disassembled a Noga holder? I have a picture in my mind of
what the guts may look like, but didn't have one availabe to take
apart while I was working on this arm.

--
Ned Simmons

Doug White wrote:
I get promotional emails from Rutland Tool, and they have a sale going on
that caught my eye:

http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/wcsst.../Rutland_Email
s/OB115.html

Down at the bottom, they have a Noga Flex Gage Holder marked down from
$99.17 to $53.95 (have to use promotion code OB115 at checkout).
...

I got one of these when Doug first posted about the sale.

It is great! I have tried to make various devices to hold indicators
and always came up short. This works just the way a holder should:
easy to manipulate when loose & tightens up solidly.

It's also the smallest
magnetic base I've seen with the quick release button. ...

This one does not have the quick release, but tilt-and-lift is easy
enough with the narrow base. Which I also prefer.

The sale is still on. Shipping was $11, IIRC.

Get one - you deserve it,
Bob

Bob Engelhardt wrote in
:

Doug White wrote:
I get promotional emails from Rutland Tool, and they have a sale
going on that caught my eye:

http://www.shoprutlandtool.com/wcsst...pload/Rutland_
Email s/OB115.html

Down at the bottom, they have a Noga Flex Gage Holder marked down
from $99.17 to $53.95 (have to use promotion code OB115 at checkout).
...

I got one of these when Doug first posted about the sale.

It is great! I have tried to make various devices to hold indicators
and always came up short. This works just the way a holder should:
easy to manipulate when loose & tightens up solidly.

It's also the smallest
magnetic base I've seen with the quick release button. ...

This one does not have the quick release, but tilt-and-lift is easy
enough with the narrow base. Which I also prefer.

The sale is still on. Shipping was $11, IIRC.

Get one - you deserve it,
Bob

Glad you like it. I missed the fact that this one doesn't have the quick
release button. I check Noga's web site, and it seems they've
discontinued the button in favor of a rotating knob, even on the small
bases. It's odd, because they don't seem to admit to making one without
a switch.

Doug White

Ned Simmons wrote:


The key is getting the bending in the arms right, such that the leaves
at the central joint come together only after there's adequate
clamping force on the balls at the ends, but before reaching the yield
point of the steel.

Has anyone disassembled a Noga holder? I have a picture in my mind of
what the guts may look like, but didn't have one availabe to take
apart while I was working on this arm.


I took mine a part when I recieved it. I can't accurately remember how it works. The
last time I saw the device it was on the passenger front seat of my car just prior to the
head on in December. Hopefully I'll find it in mom's GMC since she picked me up at the
crash site. I'll look tomorrow on the way home and take pictures if I find it.

There are rods inside the arms if that helps you confirm your visage.

Btw, that little thing is nice, my co-worker has one and it is very useful. Someday I'll
buy one to complement my larger square base Noga.

Wes

Ned Simmons wrote:

Has anyone disassembled a Noga holder? I have a picture in my mind of
what the guts may look like, but didn't have one availabe to take
apart while I was working on this arm.

Well, I found the indicator base out in a box of stuff from the Saturn, still haven't
found the indicator but it wasn't an expensive one.

Here are pictures for your edification.

http://www.garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/noga1.jpg
http://www.garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/noga2.jpg
http://www.garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/noga3.jpg
http://www.garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/noga4.jpg

Wes

On Sun, 06 Mar 2011 17:00:34 -0500, Wes
wrote:

Ned Simmons wrote:

Has anyone disassembled a Noga holder? I have a picture in my mind of
what the guts may look like, but didn't have one availabe to take
apart while I was working on this arm.

Well, I found the indicator base out in a box of stuff from the Saturn, still haven't
found the indicator but it wasn't an expensive one.

Here are pictures for your edification.

http://www.garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/noga1.jpg
http://www.garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/noga2.jpg
http://www.garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/noga3.jpg
http://www.garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/noga4.jpg

Wes

Thanks, Wes. That's very close to what I conjured up.

--
Ned Simmons