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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
One of my 20 ton presses is a straight-side and not an OBI. The bed will
move up and down with a big screw and handwheel under the bed. Some time in the past, the bed must not have been perpendicular with the ram and somebody shimmed the 2" thick x 30" x 24" bolster plate 3/16" on one side. The bolster plate has a 7" hole in the center for blanks and parts to drop through. A set-up man was having a problem getting a die lined up and that's when we noticed the crack through the bolster plate running front to back right through the center. I'm sure it was the 3/16" of shim on one side and years and years of beating. Now I have to see if I can get it welded and ground or do we make a new one? In any case, I WIN with the biggest piece of steel (cast steel) I ever broke! It was one of those "Holy Crap!" moments. |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
Libtardopia Lost wrote:
One of my 20 ton presses is a straight-side and not an OBI. The bed will move up and down with a big screw and handwheel under the bed. Some time in the past, the bed must not have been perpendicular with the ram and somebody shimmed the 2" thick x 30" x 24" bolster plate 3/16" on one side. The bolster plate has a 7" hole in the center for blanks and parts to drop through. A set-up man was having a problem getting a die lined up and that's when we noticed the crack through the bolster plate running front to back right through the center. I'm sure it was the 3/16" of shim on one side and years and years of beating. Now I have to see if I can get it welded and ground or do we make a new one? In any case, I WIN with the biggest piece of steel (cast steel) I ever broke! It was one of those "Holy Crap!" moments. Sorry to hear its broke, But if it is steel, then it would have bent before it broke. My guess is its CAST iron. any welding will be a temportary fix for cast in a press situation. I suggest you think about getting one made out of steel, That should last the life of the press. Ted Dorset UK. |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
"Ted Frater" wrote in message ... Libtardopia Lost wrote: One of my 20 ton presses is a straight-side and not an OBI. The bed will move up and down with a big screw and handwheel under the bed. Some time in the past, the bed must not have been perpendicular with the ram and somebody shimmed the 2" thick x 30" x 24" bolster plate 3/16" on one side. The bolster plate has a 7" hole in the center for blanks and parts to drop through. A set-up man was having a problem getting a die lined up and that's when we noticed the crack through the bolster plate running front to back right through the center. I'm sure it was the 3/16" of shim on one side and years and years of beating. Now I have to see if I can get it welded and ground or do we make a new one? In any case, I WIN with the biggest piece of steel (cast steel) I ever broke! It was one of those "Holy Crap!" moments. Sorry to hear its broke, But if it is steel, then it would have bent before it broke. My guess is its CAST iron. any welding will be a temportary fix for cast in a press situation. I suggest you think about getting one made out of steel, That should last the life of the press. Ted Dorset UK. Good point! I "assumed"...and my favorite addage is "Never Assume". |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:52:42 -0400, "Tom Gardner" all@net wrote:
"Ted Frater" wrote in message ... Libtardopia Lost wrote: One of my 20 ton presses is a straight-side and not an OBI. The bed will move up and down with a big screw and handwheel under the bed. Some time in the past, the bed must not have been perpendicular with the ram and somebody shimmed the 2" thick x 30" x 24" bolster plate 3/16" on one side. The bolster plate has a 7" hole in the center for blanks and parts to drop through. A set-up man was having a problem getting a die lined up and that's when we noticed the crack through the bolster plate running front to back right through the center. I'm sure it was the 3/16" of shim on one side and years and years of beating. Now I have to see if I can get it welded and ground or do we make a new one? In any case, I WIN with the biggest piece of steel (cast steel) I ever broke! It was one of those "Holy Crap!" moments. Sorry to hear its broke, But if it is steel, then it would have bent before it broke. My guess is its CAST iron. any welding will be a temportary fix for cast in a press situation. I suggest you think about getting one made out of steel, That should last the life of the press. Ted Dorset UK. Good point! I "assumed"...and my favorite addage is "Never Assume". or cast steel. And yes..make a new one. Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:52:42 -0400, "Tom Gardner" all@net wrote: "Ted Frater" wrote in message ... Libtardopia Lost wrote: One of my 20 ton presses is a straight-side and not an OBI. The bed will move up and down with a big screw and handwheel under the bed. Some time in the past, the bed must not have been perpendicular with the ram and somebody shimmed the 2" thick x 30" x 24" bolster plate 3/16" on one side. The bolster plate has a 7" hole in the center for blanks and parts to drop through. A set-up man was having a problem getting a die lined up and that's when we noticed the crack through the bolster plate running front to back right through the center. I'm sure it was the 3/16" of shim on one side and years and years of beating. Now I have to see if I can get it welded and ground or do we make a new one? In any case, I WIN with the biggest piece of steel (cast steel) I ever broke! It was one of those "Holy Crap!" moments. Sorry to hear its broke, But if it is steel, then it would have bent before it broke. My guess is its CAST iron. any welding will be a temportary fix for cast in a press situation. I suggest you think about getting one made out of steel, That should last the life of the press. Ted Dorset UK. Good point! I "assumed"...and my favorite addage is "Never Assume". or cast steel. And yes..make a new one. Gunner I don't have tools big enough. And, the damn thing isn't square, the front has a big radius or an ellipse or some thing like that. Can't I just duct-tape it? |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:27:05 -0400, "Tom Gardner" at@at wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:52:42 -0400, "Tom Gardner" all@net wrote: "Ted Frater" wrote in message ... Libtardopia Lost wrote: One of my 20 ton presses is a straight-side and not an OBI. The bed will move up and down with a big screw and handwheel under the bed. Some time in the past, the bed must not have been perpendicular with the ram and somebody shimmed the 2" thick x 30" x 24" bolster plate 3/16" on one side. The bolster plate has a 7" hole in the center for blanks and parts to drop through. A set-up man was having a problem getting a die lined up and that's when we noticed the crack through the bolster plate running front to back right through the center. I'm sure it was the 3/16" of shim on one side and years and years of beating. Now I have to see if I can get it welded and ground or do we make a new one? In any case, I WIN with the biggest piece of steel (cast steel) I ever broke! It was one of those "Holy Crap!" moments. Sorry to hear its broke, But if it is steel, then it would have bent before it broke. My guess is its CAST iron. any welding will be a temportary fix for cast in a press situation. I suggest you think about getting one made out of steel, That should last the life of the press. Ted Dorset UK. Good point! I "assumed"...and my favorite addage is "Never Assume". or cast steel. And yes..make a new one. Gunner I don't have tools big enough. And, the damn thing isn't square, the front has a big radius or an ellipse or some thing like that. Can't I just duct-tape it? Duct tape..some wooden dowels..maybe some super glue? Gunner -- "Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it, or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate results." - John Tucci, |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message news On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:27:05 -0400, "Tom Gardner" at@at wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:52:42 -0400, "Tom Gardner" all@net wrote: "Ted Frater" wrote in message ... Libtardopia Lost wrote: One of my 20 ton presses is a straight-side and not an OBI. The bed will move up and down with a big screw and handwheel under the bed. Some time in the past, the bed must not have been perpendicular with the ram and somebody shimmed the 2" thick x 30" x 24" bolster plate 3/16" on one side. The bolster plate has a 7" hole in the center for blanks and parts to drop through. A set-up man was having a problem getting a die lined up and that's when we noticed the crack through the bolster plate running front to back right through the center. I'm sure it was the 3/16" of shim on one side and years and years of beating. Now I have to see if I can get it welded and ground or do we make a new one? In any case, I WIN with the biggest piece of steel (cast steel) I ever broke! It was one of those "Holy Crap!" moments. Sorry to hear its broke, But if it is steel, then it would have bent before it broke. My guess is its CAST iron. any welding will be a temportary fix for cast in a press situation. I suggest you think about getting one made out of steel, That should last the life of the press. Ted Dorset UK. Good point! I "assumed"...and my favorite addage is "Never Assume". or cast steel. And yes..make a new one. Gunner I don't have tools big enough. And, the damn thing isn't square, the front has a big radius or an ellipse or some thing like that. Can't I just duct-tape it? Duct tape..some wooden dowels..maybe some super glue? Gunner Sounds like a job for thermite to me. Best Regards Tom. |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
Gunner Asch on Thu, 04 Nov 2010 19:20:40 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: Good point! I "assumed"...and my favorite addage is "Never Assume". or cast steel. And yes..make a new one. Gunner I don't have tools big enough. And, the damn thing isn't square, the front has a big radius or an ellipse or some thing like that. Can't I just duct-tape it? Duct tape..some wooden dowels..maybe some super glue? JB Weld. "It will fix everything but a broken heart." Paul Harvey. Gunner -- pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
"Tom Gardner" at@at writes:
I don't have tools big enough. And, the damn thing isn't square, the front has a big radius or an ellipse or some thing like that. Can't I just duct-tape it? JB Weld -- A host is a host from coast to & no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433 is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433 |
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I broke the biggest piece of steel ever!
Tom Gardner wrote:
"Gunner wrote in message ... On Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:52:42 -0400, "Tom Gardner"all@net wrote: "Ted wrote in message ... Libtardopia Lost wrote: One of my 20 ton presses is a straight-side and not an OBI. The bed will move up and down with a big screw and handwheel under the bed. Some time in the past, the bed must not have been perpendicular with the ram and somebody shimmed the 2" thick x 30" x 24" bolster plate 3/16" on one side. The bolster plate has a 7" hole in the center for blanks and parts to drop through. A set-up man was having a problem getting a die lined up and that's when we noticed the crack through the bolster plate running front to back right through the center. I'm sure it was the 3/16" of shim on one side and years and years of beating. Now I have to see if I can get it welded and ground or do we make a new one? In any case, I WIN with the biggest piece of steel (cast steel) I ever broke! It was one of those "Holy Crap!" moments. Sorry to hear its broke, But if it is steel, then it would have bent before it broke. My guess is its CAST iron. any welding will be a temportary fix for cast in a press situation. I suggest you think about getting one made out of steel, That should last the life of the press. Ted Dorset UK. Good point! I "assumed"...and my favorite addage is "Never Assume". or cast steel. And yes..make a new one. Gunner I don't have tools big enough. And, the damn thing isn't square, the front has a big radius or an ellipse or some thing like that. Can't I just duct-tape it? I would have one burned out by my steel supply company. They can cut 6 inch plate with their ox acy cnc cutting system and hold better than 1/8 tol. There should be a supplier in your area with a good cutting system, If not Call Nivert metal in Scranton PA. to get one made. John |
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