On Oct 27, 11:17*pm, robert bowman wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
A permit system infringes the right. It makes the citizen prove his
need for permission from government.

Which is why I don't have a CCW. It is a 'shall issue' state, I have the
required training, and am eligible, but it's a philosophical issue. I might
not be so philosophical if I lived in Sacramento, but the fact that I don't
live in some cesspool where I feel the need to be armed to go out for a
quart of milk also is related to my philosophy.

I spend more so that I don't live in such neighborhoods.

When I lived in Illinois I learned that I had to register myself with
the government to legally posess a firearm. So I gave up hunting and
target shooting, and hauled all my stuff, more or less, to my parents
house in Ohio. I felt as if I were in exile in Illinois.

Now I live in Ohio. We also have "shall issue," but again I don't beg
my government for my rights.

On 10/29/2010 5:31 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
On Oct 27, 11:17 pm, robert wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
A permit system infringes the right. It makes the citizen prove his
need for permission from government.

Which is why I don't have a CCW. It is a 'shall issue' state, I have the
required training, and am eligible, but it's a philosophical issue. I might
not be so philosophical if I lived in Sacramento, but the fact that I don't
live in some cesspool where I feel the need to be armed to go out for a
quart of milk also is related to my philosophy.

I spend more so that I don't live in such neighborhoods.

When I lived in Illinois I learned that I had to register myself with
the government to legally posess a firearm. So I gave up hunting and
target shooting, and hauled all my stuff, more or less, to my parents
house in Ohio. I felt as if I were in exile in Illinois.

Now I live in Ohio. We also have "shall issue," but again I don't beg
my government for my rights.

What do you do? Just ask God? And whatever he tells you is okay that's
what you do? Just wondering. If you don't get your rights from the state
how do you know what rights God wants you to have or not to have? Get it
from the Bible?

Hawke

"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 10/29/2010 5:31 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
On Oct 27, 11:17 pm, robert wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
A permit system infringes the right. It makes the citizen prove his
need for permission from government.

Which is why I don't have a CCW. It is a 'shall issue' state, I have the
required training, and am eligible, but it's a philosophical issue. I
might
not be so philosophical if I lived in Sacramento, but the fact that I
don't
live in some cesspool where I feel the need to be armed to go out for a
quart of milk also is related to my philosophy.

I spend more so that I don't live in such neighborhoods.

When I lived in Illinois I learned that I had to register myself with
the government to legally posess a firearm. So I gave up hunting and
target shooting, and hauled all my stuff, more or less, to my parents
house in Ohio. I felt as if I were in exile in Illinois.

Now I live in Ohio. We also have "shall issue," but again I don't beg
my government for my rights.

What do you do? Just ask God? And whatever he tells you is okay that's
what you do? Just wondering. If you don't get your rights from the state
how do you know what rights God wants you to have or not to have? Get it
from the Bible?


Nitwit. You are already born with those rights. Gave even gave those rights
to atheists, when they were born equal. If a person decides later in life to
not be equal, that is a different story.

On 10/31/2010 7:10 AM, Buddy Beavers wrote:


"Hawke" wrote in message
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On 10/29/2010 5:31 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
On Oct 27, 11:17 pm, robert wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
A permit system infringes the right. It makes the citizen prove his
need for permission from government.

Which is why I don't have a CCW. It is a 'shall issue' state, I have
the
required training, and am eligible, but it's a philosophical issue.
I might
not be so philosophical if I lived in Sacramento, but the fact that
I don't
live in some cesspool where I feel the need to be armed to go out for a
quart of milk also is related to my philosophy.

I spend more so that I don't live in such neighborhoods.

When I lived in Illinois I learned that I had to register myself with
the government to legally posess a firearm. So I gave up hunting and
target shooting, and hauled all my stuff, more or less, to my parents
house in Ohio. I felt as if I were in exile in Illinois.

Now I live in Ohio. We also have "shall issue," but again I don't beg
my government for my rights.

What do you do? Just ask God? And whatever he tells you is okay that's
what you do? Just wondering. If you don't get your rights from the
state how do you know what rights God wants you to have or not to
have? Get it from the Bible?


Nitwit. You are already born with those rights. Gave even gave those
rights to atheists, when they were born equal. If a person decides later
in life to not be equal, that is a different story.


How did you know you had rights when you were born? Did you just know
that from the time you could think or did you just believe it when
someone told you that? Because the truth is no one has any rights to
anything when they are born. Except maybe the right to die. But maybe
not. People like you would have a government that won't even let you die
when you want to. Of course, you're for small government. And you lie.

Hawke

"Hawke" wrote in message
...
On 10/31/2010 7:10 AM, Buddy Beavers wrote:


"Hawke" wrote in message
...
On 10/29/2010 5:31 PM, Shall not be infringed wrote:
On Oct 27, 11:17 pm, robert wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
A permit system infringes the right. It makes the citizen prove his
need for permission from government.

Which is why I don't have a CCW. It is a 'shall issue' state, I have
the
required training, and am eligible, but it's a philosophical issue.
I might
not be so philosophical if I lived in Sacramento, but the fact that
I don't
live in some cesspool where I feel the need to be armed to go out for
a
quart of milk also is related to my philosophy.

I spend more so that I don't live in such neighborhoods.

When I lived in Illinois I learned that I had to register myself with
the government to legally posess a firearm. So I gave up hunting and
target shooting, and hauled all my stuff, more or less, to my parents
house in Ohio. I felt as if I were in exile in Illinois.

Now I live in Ohio. We also have "shall issue," but again I don't beg
my government for my rights.

What do you do? Just ask God? And whatever he tells you is okay that's
what you do? Just wondering. If you don't get your rights from the
state how do you know what rights God wants you to have or not to
have? Get it from the Bible?


Nitwit. You are already born with those rights. Gave even gave those
rights to atheists, when they were born equal. If a person decides later
in life to not be equal, that is a different story.


How did you know you had rights when you were born? Did you just know that
from the time you could think or did you just believe it when someone told
you that? Because the truth is no one has any rights to anything when they
are born. Except maybe the right to die. But maybe not. People like you
would have a government that won't even let you die when you want to. Of
course, you're for small government. And you lie.


I knew it in the womb, and I plan to live forever if I can work that out.

Nitwit. You are already born with those rights. Gave even gave those
rights to atheists, when they were born equal. If a person decides later
in life to not be equal, that is a different story.


How did you know you had rights when you were born? Did you just know
that from the time you could think or did you just believe it when
someone told you that? Because the truth is no one has any rights to
anything when they are born. Except maybe the right to die. But maybe
not. People like you would have a government that won't even let you
die when you want to. Of course, you're for small government. And you
lie.


I knew it in the womb, and I plan to live forever if I can work that out.


Good luck!

"Hawke" wrote in message
...

Nitwit. You are already born with those rights. Gave even gave those
rights to atheists, when they were born equal. If a person decides
later
in life to not be equal, that is a different story.


How did you know you had rights when you were born? Did you just know
that from the time you could think or did you just believe it when
someone told you that? Because the truth is no one has any rights to
anything when they are born. Except maybe the right to die. But maybe
not. People like you would have a government that won't even let you
die when you want to. Of course, you're for small government. And you
lie.


I knew it in the womb, and I plan to live forever if I can work that out.


Good luck!

Thanks!