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I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on
casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i |
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On 2010-09-18, Ignoramus14340 wrote:
I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. ---------------chain---- As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i |
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Ignoramus14340 wrote:
I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Have a beer, you earned it. Wes |
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You need some neighbors - or some bigger kids.
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340
wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Gunner I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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Until next time. :-)
Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net "Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Originator & Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ On 9/18/2010 1:09 PM, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i |
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On 2010-09-19, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Prybars cannot easily lift this mill, so it is hard to use pipe. It is very heavy. I wished I ha da toe jack. I did something weird to lift the mill, but ot was iffy. i |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 22:23:21 -0500, Ignoramus14340
wrote: On 2010-09-19, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Prybars cannot easily lift this mill, so it is hard to use pipe. It is very heavy. I wished I ha da toe jack. I did something weird to lift the mill, but ot was iffy. i http://cgi.ebay.com/Simplex-84-A-Rai...-/270634589161 http://cgi.ebay.com/Simplex-No-86-5-...-/220670536871 While you are out at auction sites...keep your eyes out for these. The 84 and 85 models. One just lifts a bit taller than the other. Shrug. They are utterly invaluable if used properly for this sort of thing Ive got a number of them and they have been a job saver par excellance!! The most Ive ever paid for one was $50 Ive made some "extenders" that bring the hook out a bit farther, that I can drive under a machine, then slide the jack under it..and lift. Lift and stick pipe under it, etc. Very easy to do. They are ****ing marvelous if you use them carefuly. Gunner I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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I hope you left it level......
Steve "Ignoramus14340" wrote in message ... I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i |
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Ig's the type to have built his own machinery skates by now, I'da thunk. He made casters for his drill press, IIRC. -- Some people are like Slinkies ... not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs. |
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On 2010-09-19, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Ig's the type to have built his own machinery skates by now, I'da thunk. He made casters for his drill press, IIRC. Not for the drill press, no. i |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 07:00:52 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Ig's the type to have built his own machinery skates by now, I'da thunk. He made casters for his drill press, IIRC. One has to be VERY careful when using skates. Ive seen more than one machine turned over when it fell off improperly used skates. And when many machines fall over..they become "scrap". Skates are for people who do machinery moving for a living..or have much experience. Seriously. Gunner I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:14 -0500, Ignoramus14147
wrote: On 2010-09-19, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Ig's the type to have built his own machinery skates by now, I'da thunk. He made casters for his drill press, IIRC. Not for the drill press, no. Thinking, thinking, OH, it was for your -hydraulic- press, wasn't it? -- Some people are like Slinkies ... not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs. |
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One has to be VERY careful when using skates. Ive seen more than one machine turned over when it fell off improperly used skates. And when many machines fall over..they become "scrap". Skates are for people who do machinery moving for a living..or have much experience. Seriously. Hmm, what's the big deal? I've moved stuff with skates for years. I guess if you got **** for brains and let a skate come out or don't keep them well spaced, you'll tip something very heavy. Just go slow and use common sense. karl |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:34:50 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: One has to be VERY careful when using skates. Ive seen more than one machine turned over when it fell off improperly used skates. And when many machines fall over..they become "scrap". Skates are for people who do machinery moving for a living..or have much experience. Seriously. Hmm, what's the big deal? I've moved stuff with skates for years. I guess if you got **** for brains and let a skate come out or don't keep them well spaced, you'll tip something very heavy. Just go slow and use common sense. And whatever you do, if it starts to fall, get the **** out of the way. Don't try to stop 1+ ton of mass with mere mortal muscle like you would try with a washer, fridge, or armoire. That kind of weight will take limbs right off ya. -- Some people are like Slinkies ... not really good for anything, but you can't help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs. |
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On 2010-09-19, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:14 -0500, Ignoramus14147 wrote: On 2010-09-19, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Ig's the type to have built his own machinery skates by now, I'da thunk. He made casters for his drill press, IIRC. Not for the drill press, no. Thinking, thinking, OH, it was for your -hydraulic- press, wasn't it? I do not have a -hydraulic- press. :-) i |
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I have a jaw of life hydrologic machine. Instead of a beak - I use
extension rods and push upwards to lift off my Lathe so I might put steel flats under the legs. I level the lathe with the feet off concrete so the feet might not rust. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net "Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Originator & Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ On 9/18/2010 10:23 PM, Ignoramus14340 wrote: On 2010-09-19, Gunner wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Prybars cannot easily lift this mill, so it is hard to use pipe. It is very heavy. I wished I ha da toe jack. I did something weird to lift the mill, but ot was iffy. i |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 11:34:50 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: One has to be VERY careful when using skates. Ive seen more than one machine turned over when it fell off improperly used skates. And when many machines fall over..they become "scrap". Skates are for people who do machinery moving for a living..or have much experience. Seriously. Hmm, what's the big deal? I've moved stuff with skates for years. I guess if you got **** for brains and let a skate come out or don't keep them well spaced, you'll tip something very heavy. Just go slow and use common sense. karl True indeed. And then someone hits a crack in the floor and a skate comes loose or turns sideways.... As I said....one has to be VERY careful when using skates Gunner I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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Ignoramus14340 wrote:
I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. I just moved a 1000 Lb sheet metal shear into my shop. I used a comealong and extension cable. Yes, it was tiring, but not horrible. I moved my 3500 Lb. Sheldon lathe on 1/2" black iron pipe rollers, and was easily able to start it rolling with just me pushing. I did have to stop frequently to reposition the rollers. Jon |
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On 2010-09-20, Jon Elson wrote:
Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. I just moved a 1000 Lb sheet metal shear into my shop. I used a comealong and extension cable. Yes, it was tiring, but not horrible. I moved my 3500 Lb. Sheldon lathe on 1/2" black iron pipe rollers, and was easily able to start it rolling with just me pushing. I did have to stop frequently to reposition the rollers. This Interact was by far the heaviest (5,500 lbs if I am to believe some people on the internet) and it was very painful. I should have spent the $$$ on steel wheeled casters, then it would be easy. I moved my Clausing 14x40 lathe and my old Bridgeport easily. I even lifted the BP with a chain hoist once and lever hoist another time. i |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:44:03 -0500, Ignoramus14147
wrote: On 2010-09-19, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:14 -0500, Ignoramus14147 wrote: On 2010-09-19, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Ig's the type to have built his own machinery skates by now, I'da thunk. He made casters for his drill press, IIRC. Not for the drill press, no. Thinking, thinking, OH, it was for your -hydraulic- press, wasn't it? I do not have a -hydraulic- press. :-) Hmm, I thought that was you. Who here DID make the wheelie thang for the press? It was a solid metal project, so I'm pretty sure it wasn't someone from the Wreck... -- Some people hear voices. Some see invisible people. Others have no imagination whatsoever. |
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:34:33 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote: Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. I just moved a 1000 Lb sheet metal shear into my shop. I used a comealong and extension cable. Yes, it was tiring, but not horrible. It was about that time that you wished you owned one of the $49 HF winches, wasn't it? Every time I use my comealong I think of that. I moved my 3500 Lb. Sheldon lathe on 1/2" black iron pipe rollers, and was easily able to start it rolling with just me pushing. I did have to stop frequently to reposition the rollers. Mechanical advantage is wondrous, isn't it? -- Some people hear voices. Some see invisible people. Others have no imagination whatsoever. |
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On 2010-09-20, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:44:03 -0500, Ignoramus14147 wrote: On 2010-09-19, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 10:12:14 -0500, Ignoramus14147 wrote: On 2010-09-19, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:50:14 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 13:09:20 -0500, Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. As of now, the new mill is in its permanent place and I am completely exhausted. i Next time..use steel wheels or pipe. Goes much easier. Ig's the type to have built his own machinery skates by now, I'da thunk. He made casters for his drill press, IIRC. Not for the drill press, no. Thinking, thinking, OH, it was for your -hydraulic- press, wasn't it? I do not have a -hydraulic- press. :-) Hmm, I thought that was you. Who here DID make the wheelie thang for the press? It was a solid metal project, so I'm pretty sure it wasn't someone from the Wreck... I have a Fasco 5C, a huge ratcheting press, that is on a welding table which I put on casters. i |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:34:33 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Ignoramus14340 wrote: I moved my Interact 2 mill in its intended permanent place. It was on casters, but moving took about 4 hours and left me completely exhausted. This Interact 2 weighs 5,500 lbs and the urethane casters had a lot of friction. Everything was difficult, such as turning the mill around, moving it, etc. Every millimeter needed to be moved with a prybar or a chaon from my pickup. The work ended at 3:30am. I just moved a 1000 Lb sheet metal shear into my shop. I used a comealong and extension cable. Yes, it was tiring, but not horrible. It was about that time that you wished you owned one of the $49 HF winches, wasn't it? Every time I use my comealong I think of that. It's safer to use the comealong, or a ratchet puller. An electric winch doesn't give you the fine control you need to move heavy stuff safely. A Port-o-Power hydraulic kit is really a required thing to have if you do any sort of heavy rigging / moving. It functions as a lifting wedge, toe jack, pusher, and with optional accessories as a puller as well, and all with slow, precise hydraulic movement. The separate hose connected hand pump also lets you control it from a safer position, and extension hoses are available for more distance. |
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On 09/20/2010 09:03 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:34:33 -0500, Jon wrote: I moved my 3500 Lb. Sheldon lathe on 1/2" black iron pipe rollers, and was easily able to start it rolling with just me pushing. I did have to stop frequently to reposition the rollers. Mechanical advantage is wondrous, isn't it? There was no mechanical advantage at all. The boxy legs of the lathe were on pairs of rollers each. I just gave it a shove, and it started rolling. I have a remarkably smooth concrete floor. When I first moved in 20+ years ago, I got my Bridgeport in the door, and then went upstairs to get my crowbar. By the time I got back, two friends of mine had shoved the Bridgeport entirely across the floor to the opposite end of the room, with nothing but a little hip-butting! No rollers! I was amazed. Jon |
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On 09/20/2010 11:13 AM, Pete C. wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:34:33 -0500, Jon wrote: I just moved a 1000 Lb sheet metal shear into my shop. I used a comealong and extension cable. Yes, it was tiring, but not horrible. It was about that time that you wished you owned one of the $49 HF winches, wasn't it? Every time I use my comealong I think of that. It's safer to use the comealong, or a ratchet puller. An electric winch doesn't give you the fine control you need to move heavy stuff safely. We were winching this up a bit of incline on a sheet of plywood, with some aluminum scraps under the legs to provide a bit of a sliding surface, so the legs didn't dig into the plywood. Also, the handy place to hitch the comealong was not a perfect line to the doorway, so we had to keep prying the shear over in line with the door. I really don't think a power winch would have been much good due to all the repositioning. Also, the feel on the comealong would tell me when the feet were digging into the wood, or similar jam-up. Jon |
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On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 17:58:42 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote: On 09/20/2010 09:03 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:34:33 -0500, Jon wrote: I moved my 3500 Lb. Sheldon lathe on 1/2" black iron pipe rollers, and was easily able to start it rolling with just me pushing. I did have to stop frequently to reposition the rollers. Mechanical advantage is wondrous, isn't it? There was no mechanical advantage at all. The boxy legs of the lathe were on pairs of rollers each. Hmm, I suppose I did use that term improperly. Let's see: drag across the floor or roll across the floor on pipes. It was a definite and advantageous use of of physics which helped reduce your efforts. I just gave it a shove, and it started rolling. I have a remarkably smooth concrete floor. When I first moved in 20+ years ago, I got my Bridgeport in the door, and then went upstairs to get my crowbar. By the time I got back, two friends of mine had shoved the Bridgeport entirely across the floor to the opposite end of the room, with nothing but a little hip-butting! No rollers! I was amazed. Great! Sometimes you find two flat pieces which just happen create that cushion of air. Air pucks can now be used on smooth, flat surfaces to float machines around. They work wonderfully once you bump that mass into motion. -- Some people hear voices. Some see invisible people. Others have no imagination whatsoever. |
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Machinery moving
On 2010-09-21, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2010-09-20, Ignoramus14147 wrote: On 2010-09-20, Jon Elson wrote: [ ... ] I just moved a 1000 Lb sheet metal shear into my shop. I used a comealong and extension cable. Yes, it was tiring, but not horrible. I moved my 3500 Lb. Sheldon lathe on 1/2" black iron pipe rollers, and was easily able to start it rolling with just me pushing. I did have to stop frequently to reposition the rollers. This Interact was by far the heaviest (5,500 lbs if I am to believe some people on the internet) How many old style power supplies did you pull out and replace with switching power supplies? I figure that when I strip the mag amps and a bunch of the power supply transformers for my Bridgeport Series-I BOSS-3 out I will have lost 800 pounds or more of the original 3500 pounds. :-) I would say, 60 lbs worth or so is the net weight difference. and it was very painful. I should have spent the $$$ on steel wheeled casters, then it would be easy. Well ... *easier* at least. There are some things for which yielding casters are not right. :-) I moved my Clausing 14x40 lathe and my old Bridgeport easily. I even lifted the BP with a chain hoist once and lever hoist another time. Of course, the old BP did not have the electronics and the servo or stepper motors that your new one does/did. I figure that I'll lose 20 pounds just from the change from steppers to servos. :-) I lost 5 lbs working on this mill. i |
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On 2010-09-20, Ignoramus14147 wrote:
On 2010-09-20, Jon Elson wrote: [ ... ] I just moved a 1000 Lb sheet metal shear into my shop. I used a comealong and extension cable. Yes, it was tiring, but not horrible. I moved my 3500 Lb. Sheldon lathe on 1/2" black iron pipe rollers, and was easily able to start it rolling with just me pushing. I did have to stop frequently to reposition the rollers. This Interact was by far the heaviest (5,500 lbs if I am to believe some people on the internet) How many old style power supplies did you pull out and replace with switching power supplies? I figure that when I strip the mag amps and a bunch of the power supply transformers for my Bridgeport Series-I BOSS-3 out I will have lost 800 pounds or more of the original 3500 pounds. :-) and it was very painful. I should have spent the $$$ on steel wheeled casters, then it would be easy. Well ... *easier* at least. There are some things for which yielding casters are not right. :-) I moved my Clausing 14x40 lathe and my old Bridgeport easily. I even lifted the BP with a chain hoist once and lever hoist another time. Of course, the old BP did not have the electronics and the servo or stepper motors that your new one does/did. I figure that I'll lose 20 pounds just from the change from steppers to servos. :-) Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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Machinery moving
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 18:03:26 -0500, Jon Elson
wrote: On 09/20/2010 11:13 AM, Pete C. wrote: On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:34:33 -0500, Jon wrote: I just moved a 1000 Lb sheet metal shear into my shop. I used a comealong and extension cable. Yes, it was tiring, but not horrible. It was about that time that you wished you owned one of the $49 HF winches, wasn't it? Every time I use my comealong I think of that. It's safer to use the comealong, or a ratchet puller. An electric winch doesn't give you the fine control you need to move heavy stuff safely. We were winching this up a bit of incline on a sheet of plywood, with some aluminum scraps under the legs to provide a bit of a sliding surface, so the legs didn't dig into the plywood. Also, the handy place to hitch the comealong was not a perfect line to the doorway, so we had to keep prying the shear over in line with the door. I really don't think a power winch would have been much good due to all the repositioning. Also, the feel on the comealong would tell me when the feet were digging into the wood, or similar jam-up. Jon I guess it depends on the speed. I got a dandy one for getting stuff out of the basement up a plywood ramp. It has a pendant control, worked great. It was slow enough to allow stops for inspection, etc. I posted a few pics back when, last October? Pete Keillor |
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