At the moment, I really only need three (ordinary) wrenches for my
new Snappy quickchange drillbit adapters. An old friend said that
open end wrenches tend to spread with a lot of torque. A cheap set of
Stanley wrenches at the local megastore has a lifetime warranty, but
shipping would be more than the cost of one wrench, sounds like a
silly warrantee.

Is carefully using a vice grip on the threaded nut part of a Snappy
quickchange adapter likely to destroy it? The base can be held with
the included hex nut and a socket wrench.

Otherwise... Suggestions for a small wrench set?

Thanks.

John Doe wrote:
... An old friend said that
open end wrenches tend to spread with a lot of torque.

It's never been a problem for me. I've had a HF open-end break, but not
spread. Even if true, your Snappy isn't going to require a lot of
torque. Well, not enough to spread or break even the cheapest wrench.

A cheap set of
Stanley wrenches at the local megastore has a lifetime warranty, but
shipping would be more than the cost of one wrench, sounds like a
silly warrantee.

Indeed it is - same problem with HF warranty. Never mind the warranty,
though - it won't come into play using them on the Snappy.

Is carefully using a vice grip on the threaded nut part of a Snappy
quickchange adapter likely to destroy it? ...

Won't "destroy" it, but might/probably will munge it up. BAD idea, very
poor practice. If you do go that way, don't admit it to anybody.

Bob

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:45:53 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

John Doe wrote:
... An old friend said that
open end wrenches tend to spread with a lot of torque.

It's never been a problem for me. I've had a HF open-end break, but not
spread. Even if true, your Snappy isn't going to require a lot of
torque. Well, not enough to spread or break even the cheapest wrench.

A cheap set of
Stanley wrenches at the local megastore has a lifetime warranty, but
shipping would be more than the cost of one wrench, sounds like a
silly warrantee.

Indeed it is - same problem with HF warranty. Never mind the warranty,
though - it won't come into play using them on the Snappy.

Is carefully using a vice grip on the threaded nut part of a Snappy
quickchange adapter likely to destroy it? ...

Won't "destroy" it, but might/probably will munge it up. BAD idea, very
poor practice. If you do go that way, don't admit it to anybody.

Bob


Indeed!

Gunner, hiding his channel locks behind him.....

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On Jul 19, 10:01*pm, John Doe wrote:
At the moment, I really only need three (ordinary) wrenches for my
new Snappy quickchange drillbit adapters. An old friend said that
open end wrenches tend to spread with a lot of torque. A cheap set of
Stanley wrenches at the local megastore has a lifetime warranty, but
shipping would be more than the cost of one wrench, sounds like a
silly warrantee.

Is carefully using a vice grip on the threaded nut part of a Snappy
quickchange adapter likely to destroy it? The base can be held with
the included hex nut and a socket wrench.

Otherwise... Suggestions for a small wrench set?

Thanks.

Maybe a tubing fitting/flare wrench?

Much better capability than an open-end wrench, fits around a shaft.

http://www.redhummer.com/myhummer/to...s/flarenut.jpg


Dave

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:45:53 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote the following:

John Doe wrote:
... An old friend said that
open end wrenches tend to spread with a lot of torque.

It's never been a problem for me. I've had a HF open-end break, but not
spread. Even if true, your Snappy isn't going to require a lot of
torque. Well, not enough to spread or break even the cheapest wrench.

Not true. My new set of Snappy collets need a massive torque session
to keep the included bits from spinning. I've never broken a HF
wrench, though, but I avoid their cheapest sets, relying on Pittsburgh
brand exclusively. They're lifetime guaranteed but I don't have to
bandage my hand and return their tools several times a week like I did
with Crapsman tools in the late '70s and early '80s, when I bailed
from Searz for good.

--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711

Larry Jaques wrote:
Not true. My new set of Snappy collets need a massive torque session
to keep the included bits from spinning.

I stand corrected - the voice of experience trumping speculation.

I've never broken a HF
wrench, though, but I avoid their cheapest sets, relying on Pittsburgh
brand exclusively.

The HF ones that I've broken (2) were Pittsburgh. I've since learned
that there are 2 classes of Pittsburgh wrenches - the plain and the
"Professional". I have the plain but if I ever buy any more, they'll be
the Professional.

They're lifetime guaranteed ...

The first one that I broke, they sent me a new one, no questions asked.
The second one (different set) they wanted me to send it back AND pay
shipping on its replacement! Or I could buy a replacement as a "part"
for a couple of dollars & if part of another order, pay very little, if
any, incremental shipping. "Lifetime guaranty" - yeah, right.

Bob

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:55:00 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
Not true. My new set of Snappy collets need a massive torque session
to keep the included bits from spinning.

I stand corrected - the voice of experience trumping speculation.

I've never broken a HF
wrench, though, but I avoid their cheapest sets, relying on Pittsburgh
brand exclusively.

The HF ones that I've broken (2) were Pittsburgh. I've since learned
that there are 2 classes of Pittsburgh wrenches - the plain and the
"Professional". I have the plain but if I ever buy any more, they'll be
the Professional.

They're lifetime guaranteed ...

The first one that I broke, they sent me a new one, no questions asked.
The second one (different set) they wanted me to send it back AND pay
shipping on its replacement! Or I could buy a replacement as a "part"
for a couple of dollars & if part of another order, pay very little, if
any, incremental shipping. "Lifetime guaranty" - yeah, right.

Bob

What..no store close to you? Ive never had an issue returning and
exchanging an item. Some were rather expensive too.

Welding helmets, cordless drills and so forth.

In fact..I bought one of their cordless drills on a whim, came with two
batteries. Used it heavily for a year and it died..well..started making
lots of noise in the gear box. I brought it in, they handed me another
one and when I asked about the 2 batteries..I was allowed to keep them
as well, for a total of 4 batteries. G.

Then I gave everything to a friend who needed a drill for his maint
work.

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

Gunner Asch wrote:
What..no store close to you?

Right! They are getting closer - there is now one an hour away.

Ive never had an issue returning and
exchanging an item. Some were rather expensive too.

Welding helmets, cordless drills and so forth.

I've only ever had one more-expensive tool break (an electric sheet
metal shears) and they paid they return shipping. But that was 'way
back. I would have returned a combination wrench set 'cause of the poor
fit on the box ends, but generally I consider poor quality stuff a case
of getting what I paid for.

In fact..I bought one of their cordless drills on a whim, came with two
batteries. Used it heavily for a year and it died..well..started making
lots of noise in the gear box. I brought it in, they handed me another
one and when I asked about the 2 batteries..I was allowed to keep them
as well, for a total of 4 batteries. G.

You're shameless G. Tell me, have you been finding the HF store dark
& locked when you reach the door? another G

Bob

On Jul 20, 8:43*pm, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:45:53 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote the following:

John Doe wrote:
... *An old friend said that
open end wrenches tend to spread with a lot of torque.

It's never been a problem for me. *I've had a HF open-end break, but not
spread. *Even if true, your Snappy isn't going to require a lot of
torque. *Well, not enough to spread or break even the cheapest wrench.

Not true. My new set of Snappy collets need a massive torque session
to keep the included bits from spinning. *I've never broken a HF
wrench, though, but I avoid their cheapest sets, relying on Pittsburgh
brand exclusively. They're lifetime guaranteed but I don't have to
bandage my hand and return their tools several times a week like I did
with Crapsman tools in the late '70s and early '80s, when I bailed
from Searz for good.

Autozone has a good line of cheap combination wrenches, if you don't
want to buy sets. I've used them for odd sizes and one-time use. I'd
use the box ends, myself, on those collets. And even with massive
torque, I'll bet they'll still spin if they hit metal of any
significant hardness. Look like a woodworker's and cabinet hanger's
thing to me.

Stan

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:12:22 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
What..no store close to you?

Right! They are getting closer - there is now one an hour away.

Ive never had an issue returning and
exchanging an item. Some were rather expensive too.

Welding helmets, cordless drills and so forth.

I've only ever had one more-expensive tool break (an electric sheet
metal shears) and they paid they return shipping. But that was 'way
back. I would have returned a combination wrench set 'cause of the poor
fit on the box ends, but generally I consider poor quality stuff a case
of getting what I paid for.

In fact..I bought one of their cordless drills on a whim, came with two
batteries. Used it heavily for a year and it died..well..started making
lots of noise in the gear box. I brought it in, they handed me another
one and when I asked about the 2 batteries..I was allowed to keep them
as well, for a total of 4 batteries. G.

You're shameless G. Tell me, have you been finding the HF store dark
& locked when you reach the door? another G

Bob

G

Gunner

One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that,
in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers
and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid.
Gunner Asch

On 7/20/2010 12:03 PM, Dave__67 wrote:
On Jul 19, 10:01 pm, John wrote:
At the moment, I really only need three (ordinary) wrenches for my
new Snappy quickchange drillbit adapters. An old friend said that
open end wrenches tend to spread with a lot of torque. A cheap set of
Stanley wrenches at the local megastore has a lifetime warranty, but
shipping would be more than the cost of one wrench, sounds like a
silly warrantee.

Is carefully using a vice grip on the threaded nut part of a Snappy
quickchange adapter likely to destroy it? The base can be held with
the included hex nut and a socket wrench.

Otherwise... Suggestions for a small wrench set?

Thanks.

Maybe a tubing fitting/flare wrench?

Much better capability than an open-end wrench, fits around a shaft.

http://www.redhummer.com/myhummer/to...s/flarenut.jpg


Dave

When I needed one of these to disconnect the furnace in my hunting
camper, the price seemed a bit dear (wait for appreciative groans to
subside...), so I just cut a clearance slot with a cutoff wheel in a
cheap box wrench. Worked OK for the two times I needed it. One of the
advantages of cheap Harbor Fright tools is there is so little to lose.

David

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:12:22 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
What..no store close to you?

Right! They are getting closer - there is now one an hour away.

Ive never had an issue returning and
exchanging an item. Some were rather expensive too.

Welding helmets, cordless drills and so forth.

I've only ever had one more-expensive tool break (an electric sheet
metal shears) and they paid they return shipping. But that was 'way
back. I would have returned a combination wrench set 'cause of the poor
fit on the box ends, but generally I consider poor quality stuff a case
of getting what I paid for.

In fact..I bought one of their cordless drills on a whim, came with two
batteries. Used it heavily for a year and it died..well..started making
lots of noise in the gear box. I brought it in, they handed me another
one and when I asked about the 2 batteries..I was allowed to keep them
as well, for a total of 4 batteries. G.

You're shameless G. Tell me, have you been finding the HF store dark
& locked when you reach the door? another G

Bob
Went into the HF store in Fort Gratiot Mi. yesterday to pick up a box
of 100 assorted nut rivets (#2972) @ $9.99, armed with a 20% coupon
and a flashlight coupon. Walked out ten minutes later having spent
$3.99 plus tax. New math?
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:48:04 -0400, Gerald Miller
wrote the following:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:12:22 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
What..no store close to you?

Right! They are getting closer - there is now one an hour away.

Ive never had an issue returning and
exchanging an item. Some were rather expensive too.

Welding helmets, cordless drills and so forth.

I've only ever had one more-expensive tool break (an electric sheet
metal shears) and they paid they return shipping. But that was 'way
back. I would have returned a combination wrench set 'cause of the poor
fit on the box ends, but generally I consider poor quality stuff a case
of getting what I paid for.

In fact..I bought one of their cordless drills on a whim, came with two
batteries. Used it heavily for a year and it died..well..started making
lots of noise in the gear box. I brought it in, they handed me another
one and when I asked about the 2 batteries..I was allowed to keep them
as well, for a total of 4 batteries. G.

You're shameless G. Tell me, have you been finding the HF store dark
& locked when you reach the door? another G

Bob
Went into the HF store in Fort Gratiot Mi. yesterday to pick up a box
of 100 assorted nut rivets (#2972) @ $9.99, armed with a 20% coupon
and a flashlight coupon. Walked out ten minutes later having spent
$3.99 plus tax. New math?

Can you Canucks not understand sales? They're on sale for $4.97 and
the flashlight is free. $4.97 x 0.8 = $3.976, so they overcharged you
by a penny (and change.) You're right, new math, Gerry.

--
Exercise ferments the humors, casts them into their proper channels,
throws off redundancies, and helps nature in those secret distributions,
without which the body cannot subsist in its vigor, nor the soul act
with cheerfulness. -- Joseph Addison, The Spectator, July 12, 1711

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:07:55 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:48:04 -0400, Gerald Miller
wrote the following:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 09:12:22 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
What..no store close to you?

Right! They are getting closer - there is now one an hour away.

Ive never had an issue returning and
exchanging an item. Some were rather expensive too.

Welding helmets, cordless drills and so forth.

I've only ever had one more-expensive tool break (an electric sheet
metal shears) and they paid they return shipping. But that was 'way
back. I would have returned a combination wrench set 'cause of the poor
fit on the box ends, but generally I consider poor quality stuff a case
of getting what I paid for.

In fact..I bought one of their cordless drills on a whim, came with two
batteries. Used it heavily for a year and it died..well..started making
lots of noise in the gear box. I brought it in, they handed me another
one and when I asked about the 2 batteries..I was allowed to keep them
as well, for a total of 4 batteries. G.

You're shameless G. Tell me, have you been finding the HF store dark
& locked when you reach the door? another G

Bob
Went into the HF store in Fort Gratiot Mi. yesterday to pick up a box
of 100 assorted nut rivets (#2972) @ $9.99, armed with a 20% coupon
and a flashlight coupon. Walked out ten minutes later having spent
$3.99 plus tax. New math?

Can you Canucks not understand sales? They're on sale for $4.97 and
the flashlight is free. $4.97 x 0.8 = $3.976, so they overcharged you
by a penny (and change.) You're right, new math, Gerry.
I didn't know they were on sale or I might have bought more. As it is,
I already have a lifetime supply. The same purchase would have been
close to $20 at Princess Auto. I'm Happy!
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada