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I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
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I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

A number of them are available on rapidshare.com in at least one
location but you'll have to look for them. I know the direct link but
suspect their presence there is a breach of copyright so won't post it.
I've bought the "Gears and Gear Cutting" by Ivan law on the strength of
what I've seen posted about it in the past and on the strength of what I
saw from the rapidshare download I bought the "Electric Motors" book by
Jim Cox. In the UK at least they're available quite cheaply, I don't
know what they cost in the US.
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I like No.27 "Spindles" by Harprit Sandhu. He's based in USA so inch
sizes as well as metric are provided.

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On May 24, 5:08*pm, Searcher7 wrote:
I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


I have #2, Vertical Milling, and agree that it's too British in choice
of machines and projects, mainly steam loco parts. It does cover the
basics reasonably well, though, and gives an overview of making lashed-
up fixtures for unusual jobs.

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I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.


I have 10 of them. I like the electroplating, electric motors, drills taps
and dies and heat treatment the best.

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I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

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I have Law's book on gears, and it is excellent.
http://www.amazon.com/Gears-Gear-Cut.../dp/0852429118

Sandhu's spindle book is interesting, but I found it to be
of little practical value in the stuff I used to do.
http://www.amazon.com/Workshop-Pract...752590&sr=1-53

Tubal Cain's book was helpful when I didn't have access to a
vertical mill.
http://www.amazon.com/Workshop-Pract...4752750&sr=1-4

Three books that are on sale at Enco will be of more use for
basic home shop machining in the US a
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PARTPG=INLMK32
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...PARTPG=INLMK32
http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?P...MPXNO=12436289

You can also get the workshop practice series at
http://www.powells.com/s?header=Sear...m&kw=law+gears
http://www.blueridgemachinery.com/wo...26_videos.html
You also need a copy of machinery's handbook -- new is good
if you are into cnc/metric but the older ones emphasize
manual machining topics.
One used book source that I have had luck with is
http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?qw...*listing*title
Be careful when you order to not get stuck with S&H charges.

also see
http://mcduffee-associates.us/machin...ning_books.htm

let the group know what you get and how useful you find it.


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they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
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Searcher7 wrote:

I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.


I have Ivan Laws book on gearing and one on lathe work holding. I'm not sure if
Pentagrids book on motors is part of the series but if it is, I'll recommend all three.

Screw cutting on the lathe is worthwhile also. Just remembered I had that one also.

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I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.


I have a bunch of 'em, if anything I find they're not metric enough (rather
than models etc. I tend to work on japanese motorcycles), but the principles
haven't changed so much and you can always figure the conversions if you
have to. There's definitely an emphasis on model engineering and
"traditional" practices (no CNC / CAD / CAM for a start), but most of the
tools and techniques scale pretty well - lucky, as my old deflicted eyes
don't cope so well at small scales

Ones I'd recommend are the ones on heat treatment, milling in the lathe
(until I can afford a bridgie/clone), screwcutting and "workholding in the
lathe", the tool and cutter sharpening book's good (and has a few plans for
useful grinder accessories and such), following on from those the book on
dividing's pretty good too, or for beginners the basic benchwork and various
hints + tips books are very useful.

HTH,
Dave H.
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Second that Wes! Esp. if you're talking about Ivan Laws little book in which he details duplication
of gear surfaces from common end mill radii.

Bob Swinney
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Searcher7 wrote:

I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.


I have Ivan Laws book on gearing and one on lathe work holding. I'm not sure if
Pentagrids book on motors is part of the series but if it is, I'll recommend all three.

Screw cutting on the lathe is worthwhile also. Just remembered I had that one also.

Wes
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On May 24, 3:08*pm, Searcher7 wrote:
I was going to add some of the workshop Practice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.

I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


I've got a number of them, some bought back when they were $5, some
recently. There are a number that reference older British hobby
lathes that are probably long since scrap, but I've gotten a few kinks
out of those back when I didn't have a lot of equipment. There are a
couple of vendors off Amazon that have them fairly reasonable, $6-7,
rather than the $20+ that Amazon wants. I've got one on shapers, one
on small foundry practice, the gear-making one and Sparey's Amateur's
Lathe that have been the most useful. The one on home shop milling
was a bit disappointing. Only the most recent ones are purely metric,
doesn't bother me, I can convert either way. There's a recent
offering aimed at the Chinese 7x lathe that's been very useful, not
one of that series, but still useful. There was one on threads that
had just about every thread listed that was used world-wide, lotsa
tables. One of the things about the whole bunch is they're more or
less oriented toward the live steam crowd, locomotives and steam
tractors. Some of the older ones show making things you can buy off
the shelf for cheap, now. If I need Morse shanks, I'll go get some,
not spend my time setting up to turn expensive stock down. Same with
some of the clamps and such, better stuff available now. If your time
was worth nothing and all you had was some scrap steel, then it might
be worth doing some of the shop equipment projects. When I was a
starving student, I did some of those.

Stan


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On May 26, 7:05 pm, wrote:
On May 24, 3:08 wrote:


I was going to add some of theworkshopPractice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.


I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.


Thanks.


Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


I've got a number of them, some bought back when they were $5, some
recently. There are a number that reference older British hobby
lathes that are probably long since scrap, but I've gotten a few kinks
out of those back when I didn't have a lot of equipment. There are a
couple of vendors off Amazon that have them fairly reasonable, $6-7,
rather than the $20+ that Amazon wants. I've got one on shapers, one
on small foundry practice, the gear-making one and Sparey's Amateur's
Lathe that have been the most useful. The one on home shop milling
was a bit disappointing. Only the most recent ones are purely metric,
doesn't bother me, I can convert either way. There's a recent
offering aimed at the Chinese 7x lathe that's been very useful, not
one of that series, but still useful. There was one on threads that
had just about every thread listed that was used world-wide, lotsa
tables. One of the things about the whole bunch is they're more or
less oriented toward the live steam crowd, locomotives and steam
tractors. Some of the older ones show making things you can buy off
the shelf for cheap, now. If I need Morse shanks, I'll go get some,
not spend my time setting up to turn expensive stock down. Same with
some of the clamps and such, better stuff available now. If your time
was worth nothing and all you had was some scrap steel, then it might
be worth doing some of the shop equipment projects. When I was a
starving student, I did some of those.


Stan


Thanks everyone.


I have about 20 books in my machining collection now.


Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


send a valid email addy to gunnerasch AT hotmail dot com and Ill send
you some Ebooks on machining/welding etc etc./

What is the maximum file size you can receive?


I have no idea. What titles are you referring to?

I think I have everything covered as far as books are concerned.
Between the forums and the books I already have it'll take years to
get through everything, which is why I was only searching for the best
titles.

So I made up my list after reading reviews at the forums and
Amazon.com.

I don't have any welding books, but I don't see welding in my
immediate future. I did some in college though, but I dropped out due
to burn out. So thus went my dream of being a mechanical engineer.

I'm a lot more disciplined now, but have a hearing problem, so even if
I could afford to return it would be useless.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
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On Jul 3, 2:20*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
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On May 26, 7:05 pm, wrote:
On May 24, 3:08 wrote:


I was going to add some of theworkshopPractice books to my
collection, but wanted get feedback first. Particularly suggestions
for the best ones, because I'm sure all of them are not great books.


I've read that s possible problem is that they speak in metric and
some are outdated, or geared toward the UK reader. Nevertheless any
advice would be appreciated.


Thanks.


Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


I've got a number of them, some bought back when they were $5, some
recently. There are a number that reference older British hobby
lathes that are probably long since scrap, but I've gotten a few kinks
out of those back when I didn't have a lot of equipment. There are a
couple of vendors off Amazon that have them fairly reasonable, $6-7,
rather than the $20+ that Amazon wants. I've got one on shapers, one
on small foundry practice, the gear-making one and Sparey's Amateur's
Lathe that have been the most useful. The one on home shop milling
was a bit disappointing. Only the most recent ones are purely metric,
doesn't bother me, I can convert either way. There's a recent
offering aimed at the Chinese 7x lathe that's been very useful, not
one of that series, but still useful. There was one on threads that
had just about every thread listed that was used world-wide, lotsa
tables. One of the things about the whole bunch is they're more or
less oriented toward the live steam crowd, locomotives and steam
tractors. Some of the older ones show making things you can buy off
the shelf for cheap, now. If I need Morse shanks, I'll go get some,
not spend my time setting up to turn expensive stock down. Same with
some of the clamps and such, better stuff available now. If your time
was worth nothing and all you had was some scrap steel, then it might
be worth doing some of the shop equipment projects. When I was a
starving student, I did some of those.


Stan


Thanks everyone.


I have about 20 books in my machining collection now.


Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


send a valid email addy to gunnerasch AT hotmail dot com and Ill send
you some Ebooks on machining/welding etc etc./

What is the maximum file size you can receive?


I have no idea. What titles are you referring to?

I think I have everything covered as far as books are concerned.
Between the forums and the books I already have it'll take years to
get through everything, which is why I was only searching for the best
titles.

So I made up my list after reading reviews at the forums and
Amazon.com.

I don't have any welding books, but I don't see welding in my
immediate future. I did some in college though, but I dropped out due
to burn out. So thus went my dream of being a mechanical engineer.

I'm a lot more disciplined now, but have a hearing problem, so even if
I could afford to return it would be useless.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.


Ive got about humm...20 gigs of machining and machining related books on
the harddrive(s), and about the same for welding and welding related
books. Most of them are scans of actual books, everything from the
Audel Machinist books to Machiniest Handbook (of multiple years) and so
forth.

One of the newsgroups I watch regularly is alt.binaries.e-book.technical

Floods of various technical related ebooks are presented for download,
currently medical, amature radio, and computer IRRC and I have other
sources as well, including the Gutenburg Project and so forth.

Id say right off hand..Ive got 10,000 downloadable books in electronic
format..all legal of course..indeedy..oh yes indeed! on various topics
that Ive found to be of interest or handy to have as reference. Since I
have about 6000 printed books in the library with hummm 10% of those
being technical related..having ebooks minimizes the space requirements
....I dont need to fill 2 rooms of my home with book shelves.

The biggest problem Im having at the moment..is finding a decent library
program that will function to keep track of my ebooks and is free.

Gunner

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and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are
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Sorry, and I hope this doesn't interfere TOO MUCH with the latest
"You're a bigger dummy than me!" crap.

It's just one month until Cabin Fever, Jan 14, 2011 for "THE" auction,
plus Jan. 15 &16 for exhibits, at the Toyota Arena in downtown York,
Pennsylvania.

See you there??

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