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Bear Spray? For manageing unruly Bruins? was Just One Use items
Let the Record show that Don Foreman
on or about Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:44:43 -0600 did write/type or cause to appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! Buttered fatassses, meat sauce and uncooked steaks are way far yonder behind bacon grease as bear bait. Justice is a sex offender lashed to a tree in the northwoods, liberally smeared with bacon grease, perhaps not far from the sex-offender prison (with color TV) in Moose Lake he dodged by legal chicanary. The prison is full but the northwoods is capacious. As one of the new counselors is tempted "We're in the center of five hundred acres of woods ..." - pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! |
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Let the Record show that Gunner Asch on or
about Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:41:40 -0800 did write/type or cause to appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:45:58 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 23:01:34 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Let the Record show that Gunner Asch on or about Mon, 08 Mar 2010 18:55:50 -0800 did write/type or cause to appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:26:45 -0800, pyotr filipivich wrote: Let the Record show that Gunner Asch on or about Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:36:54 -0800 did write/type or cause to appear in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:09:25 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Mar 8, 8:26*am, Jim Wilkins wrote: On Mar 8, 9:51*am, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: ... bear spray when hiking ... Christopher A. Young What's in the bear spray, napalm? AKA bear repellant, AKA pepper spray, it burns without combustion. There have supposedly been instances where noobs have applied it like mosquito repellant. I prefer units with a heavy lead content, myself, say 10mm to 12 ga. In some states you can get bear repellant where pepper spray is outlawed. Same cans, different lettering. Stan And the Bear Spray tends to shoot farther and with more volume, then small cans of "pepper spray" There are a couple advances of pepperspray over bullets 1. Doesnt harm the animal 2.Tends to temporarily blind them so they cant see you to attack. On the other hand...#2 is really really Iffy..... Just make sure you're up wind of the critter. Less chance of 'blow back'. Carry a caliber suitable to stop the attack, and use pepper spray as your first line of defense..but be also prepared to quickly switch to the caliber you chose if the spray doesnt fend off the attack. "Attention campers. The correct answer to 'What do you do when faced with abear in the wild?' is not 'Butter up the fat kid and push him in front!'!" Depends on ones relations with ones children. Id have slavered meat sauce and put some fresh uncooked steaks in my sons shirt pocket if we had been anyplace there were bears of any note. Well, they're you're kids, so "You brung 'em in, you can take 'em out." http://www.rhjunior.com/CC/00055.html That's Charles in the hammock. He's a Counselor at a Summer Camp... and used to go there when he was a kid. He's the sort of counselor that the kids love, but the parents can't stand. What makes the "experience" so much fun is that the Camp is now sponsored by the ASPCA, PETA, The American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, and Greenpeace." In other words, not a single group which knows beans about Nature, true Native American History, or children under the age of 24. I think you'll like it. Bookmarked!! Gunner Marvelous cartoon! I just read em start to finish. Funny as hell and accurate. Had me laughing hysterically in a number of places. Gunner, one time camp counseler You might find "Nip and Tuck" a hoot , as well as "Quinton Questor Space Ranger!" (He tears into the whole Star Trek mythos with a chainsaw...) I just laugh my self silly reading them. And inflicting them on friends. - pyotr filipivich We will drink no whiskey before its nine. It's eight fifty eight. Close enough! |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:08:43 -0500, the infamous Wes scrawled the following: Larry Jaques wrote: I bought some rolling head pry bars. Each lasted less than one use. The 4-piece set? I still have mine 30 years later but only use it for alignment and as a jack handle. I think I've used one or another of them for prying two pieces of wood apart, too. Nothing rough. I bought 2 4 piece sets while attending NAMES last year. I've killed four of them in matching pairs. Are they breaking from being too brittle, or bending due to lack of hardening? Snapped like peanut brittle. My Sears pry and a coupe of Mc Master Carr pry's are going strong still. Bueno. My HF digging bar is just peachy. The medium pry bar with a round and a flat chisel end is softer than hell on the round end. Variable quality. We had a local place that sold chineese tools until it folded. Their tools tended to be a-ok, never had to return any. Same for some metal stamps. One hit on 1018 and my O stamp is now in BOLD FONT. Oops! I haven't tried mine yet. Might as well test them. Rc50 is what a good stamp should be able to mark iirc. Obviously, the harder the target you stamp, the shorter the stamp life. Try all the characters, I suspect they HT one character at a time in a large batch with typical varying results. That would tend to suck. I'd have to go to HF and say "Hi, Mr. Manager. I'm going to need all your sets of alphanumeric stamps, a hammer, and a place to sit and try them. Here are the bad characters from the set I bought. I brought my own metal to sample 'em." Might as well. Hmm, I wonder if it's just not worth it? g I'm thinking I need a lead to a source of quality stamps and just go with it. Expecting China at a low price point to get things right 36-40 times in a row is not realistic. Wes |
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pyotr filipivich wrote: "Attention campers. The correct answer to 'What do you do when faced with abear in the wild?' is not 'Butter up the fat kid and push him in front!'!" What if they are already buttered? Or better yet, covered in honey after getting into a beehive? ;-) -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!' |
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Don Foreman wrote: On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:51:29 -0500, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: A friend of mine just wrote to remind me of a good book. You and the Police is an excellent book by Boston T Party. Pays for itself in just one traffic or other ticket. There are so many "just one" items around. Fire extinguisher, tourniquet, attorney on retainer. Makes a good subject to discuss. What are some other "just one use" and it's paid for itself items? Rotary rasp or file tool Actetylene torch Lathe with digital monitoring First aid kit spare tire for the car bear spray when hiking Other items? Anchor on a Toyota? You had a '73 Corona? The poor design let the brake pads to eject if you had to brake hard, in reverse. It could have used two anchors. -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!' |
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Wes wrote: "Robert Swinney" wrote: Jim sez "What's in the bear spray, napalm?" Naw, better if the spray contains sex pheromones, so you can through on your hunting companion while you get Hell out of there.. How fast do you have to run to out run a bear? Faster than the guy next to you. If the bear doesn't have freinds... -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!' |
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On Mar 14, 6:58*pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: ... How fast do you have to run to out run a bear? *Faster than the guy next to you. * *If the bear doesn't have freinds... Except for mothers with cubs I think bears avoid each other. There aren't too many animals that get along well. Watch a bird feeder for instance. Even mating pairs don't share. jsw |
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"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message ... On Mar 14, 6:58 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: ... How fast do you have to run to out run a bear? Faster than the guy next to you. If the bear doesn't have freinds... Except for mothers with cubs I think bears avoid each other. There aren't too many animals that get along well. Watch a bird feeder for instance. Even mating pairs don't share. jsw Reply: Depends on the birds. The Sparrows, doves, finches all share our feeder. Only thing that stops them at about 30 is there is no more room on the perches, rim, or tray underneath. |
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On Mar 14, 9:49*pm, "CalifBill" wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message [birds] Reply: *Depends on the birds. *The Sparrows, doves, finches all share our feeder. *Only thing that stops them at about 30 is there is no more room on the perches, rim, or tray underneath. Around here only the chickadees will share. The male cardinal makes the female wait elsewhere although there is a second perch on the opposite side. I was feeding some disgusting cheese crackers to seagulls and noticed that one big, tough-looking but crippled one dominated the rest. When I tossed them closer than he dared approach he wouldn't let any of the others past, so I had him hobbling back and forth playing goalie in front of a line of crackers. After a minute or so I threw them the whole bag and backed away. jsw |
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Jim Wilkins wrote: On Mar 14, 6:58 pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: ... How fast do you have to run to out run a bear? Faster than the guy next to you. If the bear doesn't have freinds... Except for mothers with cubs I think bears avoid each other. There aren't too many animals that get along well. Watch a bird feeder for instance. Even mating pairs don't share. They don't have to get along, to hunt. -- Lead free solder is Belgium's version of 'Hold my beer and watch this!' |
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On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:30:49 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:57:23 -0800, the infamous Gunner Asch scrawled the following: On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:35:20 -0500, Wes wrote: "Robert Swinney" wrote: Naw, Wes. I meant run whilst the bear is attracted to the other guy. Too bad if it happens to be your hunting companion. What are you guys hunting with? I'm starting to think keeping a few 20ga slugs with me while bird hunting might be a good idea. Wes Ayup. And they are rather cheap if you buy em in 5 packs. Works a treat on bigger game, 2 and four legged, and does a rather decent job on the passenger compartments of motor vehicles. Are you going to explain that last part, mon? vbg Think it actually needs an explaination? Slugs work better than buckshot when one needs to put leaks in motor vehicles and their contents. Shrug Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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