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cavelamb wrote:
Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! |
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You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! I didn't realize you were sailing to foreign ports. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb
wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Gunner "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Really, Which foreign ports have you sailed into in the last 3 months, and with what arms? Gunner "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Gunner You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example, make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence for ammunition. Regards, J.B. |
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In all honestly for that trip I'd like to have a longer boat. But this one is perfectly capable. The only question in my mind is - am I... Of course, we could be ready a lot sooner if we actually had *parts*... |
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:57 -0600, cavelamb
wrote: cavelamb wrote: In all honestly for that trip I'd like to have a longer boat. But this one is perfectly capable. The only question in my mind is - am I... Of course, we could be ready a lot sooner if we actually had *parts*... You will indeed have it next week. Its a bit more complicated than Id expected..I thought I had a 1/2" radius cutter..and cant find it. But its roughed out while I ponder. Gunner "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:57 -0600, cavelamb wrote: cavelamb wrote: In all honestly for that trip I'd like to have a longer boat. But this one is perfectly capable. The only question in my mind is - am I... Of course, we could be ready a lot sooner if we actually had *parts*... You will indeed have it next week. Its a bit more complicated than Id expected..I thought I had a 1/2" radius cutter..and cant find it. But its roughed out while I ponder. Gunner Thanks, Guns. The only critical dimension is the slow width. ..255 +.05 -0 And that's just that it not be too narrow for the tab. |
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cavelamb wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:57 -0600, cavelamb wrote: cavelamb wrote: In all honestly for that trip I'd like to have a longer boat. But this one is perfectly capable. The only question in my mind is - am I... Of course, we could be ready a lot sooner if we actually had *parts*... You will indeed have it next week. Its a bit more complicated than Id expected..I thought I had a 1/2" radius cutter..and cant find it. But its roughed out while I ponder. Gunner Thanks, Guns. The only critical dimension is the *slot* width. .255 +.05 -0 And that's just that it not be too narrow for the tab. Dam! Who typed that? |
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:31:32 -0600, cavelamb
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:57 -0600, cavelamb wrote: cavelamb wrote: In all honestly for that trip I'd like to have a longer boat. But this one is perfectly capable. The only question in my mind is - am I... Of course, we could be ready a lot sooner if we actually had *parts*... You will indeed have it next week. Its a bit more complicated than Id expected..I thought I had a 1/2" radius cutter..and cant find it. But its roughed out while I ponder. Gunner Thanks, Guns. The only critical dimension is the slow width. .255 +.05 -0 And that's just that it not be too narrow for the tab. What...you dont have a file????? G Gunner "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:31:32 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:57 -0600, cavelamb wrote: cavelamb wrote: In all honestly for that trip I'd like to have a longer boat. But this one is perfectly capable. The only question in my mind is - am I... Of course, we could be ready a lot sooner if we actually had *parts*... You will indeed have it next week. Its a bit more complicated than Id expected..I thought I had a 1/2" radius cutter..and cant find it. But its roughed out while I ponder. Gunner Thanks, Guns. The only critical dimension is the slow width. .255 +.05 -0 And that's just that it not be too narrow for the tab. What...you dont have a file????? G Gunner About all I have these days is stone knives and bear claw needles. But D has an emery board! VBG |
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On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:31:37 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Gunner You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example, make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence for ammunition. Regards, J.B. But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one? Gunner But he can if he wants to. A Hungarian chap was stopped by the marina in Thailand - from Hungary and on his way back - in a smaller boat then Cavelamb's. Regards, J.B. |
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 02:31:01 -0600, cavelamb
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:31:32 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:57 -0600, cavelamb wrote: cavelamb wrote: In all honestly for that trip I'd like to have a longer boat. But this one is perfectly capable. The only question in my mind is - am I... Of course, we could be ready a lot sooner if we actually had *parts*... You will indeed have it next week. Its a bit more complicated than Id expected..I thought I had a 1/2" radius cutter..and cant find it. But its roughed out while I ponder. Gunner Thanks, Guns. The only critical dimension is the slow width. .255 +.05 -0 And that's just that it not be too narrow for the tab. What...you dont have a file????? G Gunner About all I have these days is stone knives and bear claw needles. But D has an emery board! VBG Damn...when I ship it to you, Ill include a few files. I have a ****load of them. ******* and flat, round and triangle? Short on handles though..might come up with a couple Gunner "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:06:50 +0700, wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:31:37 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Gunner You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example, make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence for ammunition. Regards, J.B. But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one? Gunner But he can if he wants to. A Hungarian chap was stopped by the marina in Thailand - from Hungary and on his way back - in a smaller boat then Cavelamb's. Regards, J.B. Cool! though...Im curious..how did he sail to Hungary? Isnt it land locked? Gunner, who has an Ensenada 20, a Hobi 16 and a Force 5 (13') at the moment..none of which has been in the water for at least 2 yrs. "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:06:50 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:31:37 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Gunner You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example, make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence for ammunition. Regards, J.B. But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one? Gunner But he can if he wants to. A Hungarian chap was stopped by the marina in Thailand - from Hungary and on his way back - in a smaller boat then Cavelamb's. Regards, J.B. Cool! though...Im curious..how did he sail to Hungary? Isnt it land locked? Gunner, who has an Ensenada 20, a Hobi 16 and a Force 5 (13') at the moment..none of which has been in the water for at least 2 yrs. It took a bit of work to find his site again... http://www.meder.hu/ english press release http://www.meder.hu/eng/press.pdf But also: http://www.upbiz.com/penryn/ballerina/shrimpy.html http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Sail-...World-For-Free -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/ "The clock of life is wound but once, and no man has the power to tell just when the hands will stop, at late or early hour... Now is the only time you own. Live, love, toil with a will. Place no faith in time. For the clock may soon be still." |
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:16:07 -0600, cavelamb
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:06:50 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:31:37 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Gunner You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example, make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence for ammunition. Regards, J.B. But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one? Gunner But he can if he wants to. A Hungarian chap was stopped by the marina in Thailand - from Hungary and on his way back - in a smaller boat then Cavelamb's. Regards, J.B. Cool! though...Im curious..how did he sail to Hungary? Isnt it land locked? Gunner, who has an Ensenada 20, a Hobi 16 and a Force 5 (13') at the moment..none of which has been in the water for at least 2 yrs. It took a bit of work to find his site again... http://www.meder.hu/ english press release http://www.meder.hu/eng/press.pdf But also: http://www.upbiz.com/penryn/ballerina/shrimpy.html http://hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Sail-...World-For-Free Thanks!!! Interesting reading!! Gunner "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:47:10 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:06:50 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:31:37 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Gunner You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example, make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence for ammunition. Regards, J.B. But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one? Gunner But he can if he wants to. A Hungarian chap was stopped by the marina in Thailand - from Hungary and on his way back - in a smaller boat then Cavelamb's. Regards, J.B. Cool! though...Im curious..how did he sail to Hungary? Isnt it land locked? Google "Danube River". Gunner, who has an Ensenada 20, a Hobi 16 and a Force 5 (13') at the moment..none of which has been in the water for at least 2 yrs. Regards, J.B. |
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:20:36 +0700, wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 04:47:10 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:06:50 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:31:37 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb wrote: Wes wrote: cavelamb wrote: Don't worry about bullets, though. All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit aboard the boat... You could make it fit. If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though. Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country. Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they say, "Oh, come on!". Guns? Gimme aa break! Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox. Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia. Many of them anyways....shrug Gunner You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example, make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence for ammunition. Regards, J.B. But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one? Gunner But he can if he wants to. A Hungarian chap was stopped by the marina in Thailand - from Hungary and on his way back - in a smaller boat then Cavelamb's. Regards, J.B. Cool! though...Im curious..how did he sail to Hungary? Isnt it land locked? Google "Danube River". That goes to Hungary?...ah yes..Budda and Pest..."slap!!!" upside my own head. of course it does. Sorry about that. Thanks! Gunner, who has an Ensenada 20, a Hobi 16 and a Force 5 (13') at the moment..none of which has been in the water for at least 2 yrs. Regards, J.B. "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766 |
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