cavelamb wrote:

Don't worry about bullets, though.
All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but
I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit
aboard the boat...

You could make it fit.

If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though.
Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Wes wrote:
cavelamb wrote:

Don't worry about bullets, though.
All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but
I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit
aboard the boat...

You could make it fit.

If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though.
Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller


You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country.

Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they
say, "Oh, come on!".

Guns?


Gimme aa break!

cavelamb wrote:

You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country.

Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they
say, "Oh, come on!".

Guns?


Gimme aa break!

I didn't realize you were sailing to foreign ports.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

Wes wrote:
cavelamb wrote:

Don't worry about bullets, though.
All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but
I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit
aboard the boat...

You could make it fit.

If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though.
Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller


You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country.

Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they
say, "Oh, come on!".

Guns?


Gimme aa break!


Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox.

Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are
starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia.

Many of them anyways....shrug

Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

Wes wrote:
cavelamb wrote:

Don't worry about bullets, though.
All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but
I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit
aboard the boat...
You could make it fit.

If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though.
Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country.

Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they
say, "Oh, come on!".

Guns?


Gimme aa break!


Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox.

Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are
starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia.

Many of them anyways....shrug

Really, Which foreign ports have you sailed into in the last 3 months,
and with what arms?



Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

Wes wrote:
cavelamb wrote:

Don't worry about bullets, though.
All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but
I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit
aboard the boat...

You could make it fit.

If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though.
Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller


You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country.

Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they
say, "Oh, come on!".

Guns?


Gimme aa break!


Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox.

Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are
starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia.

Many of them anyways....shrug

Gunner

You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the
laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had
better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in
some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example,
make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence
for ammunition.

Regards,

J.B.

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

Wes wrote:
cavelamb wrote:

Don't worry about bullets, though.
All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but
I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit
aboard the boat...

You could make it fit.

If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though.
Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller


You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country.

Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they
say, "Oh, come on!".

Guns?


Gimme aa break!


Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox.

Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are
starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia.

Many of them anyways....shrug

Gunner

You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the
laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had
better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in
some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example,
make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence
for ammunition.

Regards,

J.B.


But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail
boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one?

Gunner

"I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the
means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not
making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of
it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different
countries, that the more public provisions were made for the
poor the less they provided for themselves, and of course became
poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the
more they did for themselves, and became richer." -- Benjamin
Franklin, /The Encouragement of Idleness/, 1766

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

Wes wrote:
cavelamb wrote:

Don't worry about bullets, though.
All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but
I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit
aboard the boat...
You could make it fit.

If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though.
Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country.

Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they
say, "Oh, come on!".

Guns?


Gimme aa break!

Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox.

Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are
starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia.

Many of them anyways....shrug

Gunner
You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the
laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had
better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in
some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example,
make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence
for ammunition.

Regards,

J.B.


But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail
boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one?

Gunner



She's 26 feet, Gunner. With 10 feet of beam.
That makes her kind of a short 30 footer.

We have hot and cold pressure water, a complete head,
A full galley, and more room below that you expect.
We can live aboard comfortably for extended periods.

Were I heading for the Far East, I'd ship my ship as cargo.
Even in the Gulf, a lot of sailors do that even now.
Ship their boat to windward and sail down hill back home.

However, the Bahamas, Bermuda, Jamaica, and as far as Antigua are all certainly
possible. As is Mexico, the east coast of South America, and, if they ever open
it up, Cuba, hombre!

Slip through the ditch and Hawaii is about 14 days down hill.
(we can provision for two for 30 days)

Or coast up Californiastan to Alaska, across the Bearing Sea (90 miles) to
Russia (where American Dollars are still King!), down the coast to Japan,
coast along southern China and around Viet Nam (pass).

Gee, there you are in Indonesia! Thailand, Malysia, New Guinea, Austrailia.

In all honestly for that trip I'd like to have a longer boat.
But this one is perfectly capable.

The only question in my mind is - am I...

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 17:31:37 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 08:03:22 +0700, wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 12:49:34 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 03:13:58 -0600, cavelamb
wrote:

Wes wrote:
cavelamb wrote:

Don't worry about bullets, though.
All this talk about reloading makes me wish I could, but
I don't have the equipment, and in the end, it won't fit
aboard the boat...

You could make it fit.

If I was out in the open ocean, I'd rather try my hand at shooting clay pigeons though.
Besides, a shotgun is better at repelling boarders.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller


You have obviously not ever tried to clear customs in a foriegn country.

Man, they ask if you have any drugs aboard, and if you answer no, they
say, "Oh, come on!".

Guns?


Gimme aa break!


Thats why you hide them..or put in a locked strongbox.

Seems with the off shore kidnappings and murders...foreign nations are
starting to look the other way about "self defense" paraphenalia.

Many of them anyways....shrug

Gunner

You might think so but apparently the foreign governments don't as the
laws haven't changed. If you clear into a foreign country you had
better declare any firearms you may have on board as the penalties in
some countries are rather stiff - Malaysia and Singapore, for example,
make it an automatic death penalty for firearms and a jail sentence
for ammunition.

Regards,

J.B.


But of course no one things that Cavelamb is sailing in his 22ft sail
boat to Malaysa or Sinapore, does one?

Gunner

But he can if he wants to. A Hungarian chap was stopped by the marina
in Thailand - from Hungary and on his way back - in a smaller boat
then Cavelamb's.

Regards,

J.B.