On Aug 26, 4:27*pm, Neolibertarian wrote:
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*"RD (The Sandman)" wrote:



Neolibertarian wrote in news:736f2$4a957628
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*Meat Plow wrote:

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:28:10 -0500, No Bammer
wrote:

Cliff wrote:

* "The Greatest American Senator"

You talking about that filthy murdering ******* ted kennedy?

Yeh that one. The senator who murdered Mary Jo Kopechne in a drunken
driving accident in Chappaquiddick Island, Massachusetts on July 20th
1969.

We all probably paid for the ghosts that haunted him. He was far more a
socialist-activist than his brothers could have tolerated.

It must have been his way of assuaging his personal demons--as
socialism
often is seen as a way of making amends for earlier sins--a reparation,
as it were.

The Democrat party would not be the socialist party it is today if it
hadn't been for him.

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I can't say it often enough. For every one or two good public servants
term limits may brush aside, there are dozens and hundreds of twisted
power thirsty men who wish to perpetuated their own personal agendas,
to
force them on all of us, at our expense.

Enough already.

We already have term limits. *It is called November. *If someone
continually gets reelected it is because those in his district or state
wish it to be so. *Interestingly, most people who believe in term limits
like their own representative or senator. *It is someone else's they wish
term limits applied to. *

Well, we obviously need to limit the franchise, as well. However,
absolutely no one seems to agree with me that the voting booth should be
locked by a random quadratic equation.

Short of that, term limits are called for.

Incumbents get reelected because they bring home the bacon to the
district/state. Once in power long enough, they have great influence
over pending or proposed legislation. Constituents who're affected by
such legislation exert influence and money in the campaigns.

November isn't enough of a safeguard. It wasn't a safeguard at all
against President-For-Life Roosevelt. Term limits haven't proven
anything but a blessing for the health of the executive branch since.

As for "liking my own representative," I can assure you I don't. I'm a
neolibertarian living in one of the bluest states in the union.
State-wide one-party rule is approaching the decade mark, and our
largest city has suffered one-party rule for well over 80 years. It's
corruption is now legendary, as if it weren't so in the 1920's when Al
Capone was elected Sheriff of Cook County.

Guess which party affiliation he was; guess which party affiliation was
predominant in the county at the time; guess which party had already
dominated the city for over a decade when he became sheriff.

Class?...anybody?...anybody?

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I just can't say it enough.

--
Neolibertarian

"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."

Guess which party just did an end run around the term limits voted for
TWICE by the people of New York City? That would be the Republicans,
who have decided that the world can't live without Mike Bloomberg in
the driver's seat.

and what the **** is a "Neolibertarian?"

rangerssuck wrote:

"Global Warming: It ain't the heat, it's the stupidity."

Guess which party just did an end run around the term limits voted for
TWICE by the people of New York City? That would be the Republicans,
who have decided that the world can't live without Mike Bloomberg in
the driver's seat.



Bloomberg is NOT a Republican. He was a lifelong Democrat. Then switched
to the Republican party just to get elected. He is now an Independent
and has been for 2 years.
It was the 47 DEMOCRATS in the New York City Council who voted to extend
his term after the INDEPENDENT Mayor asked them to.

"In the fall of 2008, Bloomberg successfully campaigned for an amendment
to New York City's term limits law, in order to allow him to run for a
third term in 2009. On October 23, 2008 the New York City Council voted
in favor of extending the term limit for elected officials to three
consecutive four-year terms, thus allowing both Bloomberg and other
council members to run for office again."
What a shock, DEMOCRATS voting to amend election laws to keep themselves
in office longer!!!

--
Steve W.

"Steve W." wrote:

Bloomberg is NOT a Republican. He was a lifelong Democrat. Then switched
to the Republican party just to get elected. He is now an Independent
and has been for 2 years.
It was the 47 DEMOCRATS in the New York City Council who voted to extend
his term after the INDEPENDENT Mayor asked them to.

He ran as a Republican to sidestep Mark Greenberg in a Democrat primary contest. I was
very happy when he declared himself an Independent. Def Independent: Caller to
Washington Journal that is a Democrat.

I wish WJ would add a Libertarian line to their phone list. Might hear Larry call in some
day

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Aug 27, 7:12*pm, Wes wrote:
"Steve W." wrote:
Bloomberg is NOT a Republican. He was a lifelong Democrat. Then switched
to the Republican party just to get elected. He is now an Independent
and has been for 2 years.
It was the 47 DEMOCRATS in the New York City Council who voted to extend
his term after the INDEPENDENT Mayor asked them to.

He ran as a Republican to sidestep Mark Greenberg in a Democrat primary contest. *I was
very happy when he declared himself an Independent. *Def Independent: *Caller to
Washington Journal that is a Democrat.

I wish WJ would add a Libertarian line to their phone list. *Might hear Larry call in some
day

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." *Dick Anthony Heller

Bloomberg ran as a Republican and intends to run as a Republican for
his third term. There is no question that the impetus for the
elimination of the term limits in NY came from Bloomberg's office.

On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:12:38 -0400, the infamous Wes
scrawled the following:

"Steve W." wrote:

Bloomberg is NOT a Republican. He was a lifelong Democrat. Then switched
to the Republican party just to get elected. He is now an Independent
and has been for 2 years.
It was the 47 DEMOCRATS in the New York City Council who voted to extend
his term after the INDEPENDENT Mayor asked them to.

He ran as a Republican to sidestep Mark Greenberg in a Democrat primary contest. I was
very happy when he declared himself an Independent. Def Independent: Caller to
Washington Journal that is a Democrat.

I wish WJ would add a Libertarian line to their phone list. Might hear Larry call in some
day

That might happen only if I resumed watching TV. After a couple years
without it, I'm truly hooked on the loss. Every once in awhile I'll
turn on the local news, hear 17 minutes of commercials and 13 of
"news", then turn it off for another half a year or so. My TV comes
on only for DVD movies which come in from Netflix, a savings of $90
from the valueless satellite TV subscription. What a nice difference!

I finished putting the metal roofing on the carport today instead of
watching TV. I seem to get a whole lot more projects done these days,
too. TV? Youse guys can keep it.

Got books?

--
A striking fact of the last two years of financial trouble is how
accountability has differed in the public and private spheres. On
Wall Street and across the country, decades-old firms have failed,
fortunes have vanished, and some former captains of finance face
jail or fines. In Washington, meanwhile, most regulators and Members
of Congress remain on the job, often with enhanced power.
-WSJ "Bernanke's Second Chance" 26aug09