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This is 30 year old advice but I think it still applies. My parents
had a yard with a steep slope and were told to always ride the tractor
up and down the hill and to push a mower across it.

My shop has some steep hills and I push mow all of them, the new mower
has a brake/kill switch on it, which is a good thing, I slipped down
the hill a few times.

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Randy wrote:

This is 30 year old advice but I think it still applies. My parents
had a yard with a steep slope and were told to always ride the tractor
up and down the hill and to push a mower across it.

My shop has some steep hills and I push mow all of them, the new mower
has a brake/kill switch on it, which is a good thing, I slipped down
the hill a few times.


I ride my mower across the steep slope around my pond with my hanging
off the uphill side as ballast. No sissy kill switches on my mower...
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Randy wrote:
This is 30 year old advice but I think it still applies. My parents
had a yard with a steep slope and were told to always ride the tractor
up and down the hill and to push a mower across it.

My shop has some steep hills and I push mow all of them, the new mower
has a brake/kill switch on it, which is a good thing, I slipped down
the hill a few times.


I ride my mower across the steep slope around my pond with my hanging
off the uphill side as ballast. No sissy kill switches on my mower...


I've believe that's called "hiking out", especially
if you get too close to the pond...
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:34:20 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

Randy wrote:

This is 30 year old advice but I think it still applies. My parents
had a yard with a steep slope and were told to always ride the tractor
up and down the hill and to push a mower across it.

My shop has some steep hills and I push mow all of them, the new mower
has a brake/kill switch on it, which is a good thing, I slipped down
the hill a few times.


I ride my mower across the steep slope around my pond with my hanging
off the uphill side as ballast. No sissy kill switches on my mower...


Y'know, I could do that with a riding mower. I've done it once on my
tractor, but even though it's a _small_ tractor it's a _real_ tractor,
and that was one scary experience.

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--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort
where we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a
long rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.

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On Aug 18, 1:58 pm, steamer wrote:
--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort
where we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a
long rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.

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Hacking the Trailing Edge! : I knew what I was doing...
www.nmpproducts.com
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I had a friend with a setup like that 30 years ago. it was about a 40
degree slope with a 20 foot drop. He used the rope on the mower
handle too.

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On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:58:19 +0000, steamer wrote:

--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort
where we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a
long rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.


Is there an anchor of some sort, or does he depend on his shoes not
slipping?

Thanks,
Rich


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Jim Stewart wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
Randy wrote:
This is 30 year old advice but I think it still applies. My parents
had a yard with a steep slope and were told to always ride the tractor
up and down the hill and to push a mower across it.

My shop has some steep hills and I push mow all of them, the new mower
has a brake/kill switch on it, which is a good thing, I slipped down
the hill a few times.


I ride my mower across the steep slope around my pond with my hanging
off the uphill side as ballast. No sissy kill switches on my mower...


I've believe that's called "hiking out", especially
if you get too close to the pond...


Nope, get too close to the pond it's called "time to change my shorts"



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Jim Stewart wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
Randy wrote:
This is 30 year old advice but I think it still applies. My parents
had a yard with a steep slope and were told to always ride the tractor
up and down the hill and to push a mower across it.

My shop has some steep hills and I push mow all of them, the new mower
has a brake/kill switch on it, which is a good thing, I slipped down
the hill a few times.

I ride my mower across the steep slope around my pond with my hanging
off the uphill side as ballast. No sissy kill switches on my mower...


I've believe that's called "hiking out", especially
if you get too close to the pond...


Nope, get too close to the pond it's called "time to change my shorts"


Nope, it's called time to get the tractor and a chain to pull the mower
out of the muck again...
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Tim Wescott wrote:

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 09:34:20 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

Randy wrote:

This is 30 year old advice but I think it still applies. My parents
had a yard with a steep slope and were told to always ride the tractor
up and down the hill and to push a mower across it.

My shop has some steep hills and I push mow all of them, the new mower
has a brake/kill switch on it, which is a good thing, I slipped down
the hill a few times.


I ride my mower across the steep slope around my pond with my hanging
off the uphill side as ballast. No sissy kill switches on my mower...


Y'know, I could do that with a riding mower. I've done it once on my
tractor, but even though it's a _small_ tractor it's a _real_ tractor,
and that was one scary experience.


Yes, on the riding mower it's not a big deal, but I wouldn't try it on
my little Kubota B7100DT, and my fat but wouldn't be much of a
counterweight for the tractor anyway.


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steamer wrote:

--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort
where we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a
long rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.


The roads / highways around me have some quite steep embankments and
it's pretty scary watching the mowing crews with the full sized tractors
and triple mower decks operating at what must be a 30+ degree angle. I
haven't seen one on it's side yet though.
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On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:25:34 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

steamer wrote:

--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort where
we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a long
rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.


The roads / highways around me have some quite steep embankments and
it's pretty scary watching the mowing crews with the full sized tractors
and triple mower decks operating at what must be a 30+ degree angle. I
haven't seen one on it's side yet though.


They can come mow my place...

I could reverse the rear wheels on my tractor, which spaces them out a
few inches. Much of my problem is just not knowing how much tilt is too
much -- it's not like you can fall over half way then stop and back out.

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Tim Wescott wrote:

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:25:34 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

steamer wrote:

--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort where
we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a long
rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.


The roads / highways around me have some quite steep embankments and
it's pretty scary watching the mowing crews with the full sized tractors
and triple mower decks operating at what must be a 30+ degree angle. I
haven't seen one on it's side yet though.


They can come mow my place...

I could reverse the rear wheels on my tractor, which spaces them out a
few inches. Much of my problem is just not knowing how much tilt is too
much -- it's not like you can fall over half way then stop and back out.


Weld up a set of training wheels...
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Tim Wescott wrote:

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:25:34 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

steamer wrote:

--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort where
we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a
long
rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.

The roads / highways around me have some quite steep embankments and
it's pretty scary watching the mowing crews with the full sized
tractors
and triple mower decks operating at what must be a 30+ degree angle. I
haven't seen one on it's side yet though.


They can come mow my place...

I could reverse the rear wheels on my tractor, which spaces them out a
few inches. Much of my problem is just not knowing how much tilt is too
much -- it's not like you can fall over half way then stop and back out.


Weld up a set of training wheels...


or outriggers, like on bondurant cars.

why can't you go part way and then back out? i routinely sail my catamaran
on a single hull. swmbo gets really annoyed when it flips, so i try to avoid
that


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On Aug 18, 7:25*pm, "charlie" wrote:

why can't you go part way and then back out? i routinely sail my catamaran
on a single hull. swmbo gets really annoyed when it flips, so i try to avoid
that -

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With your catamaran, the farther over you go the less sail is
presented to the wind, so it balances. Except for the force of the
wind on the hull in the air.

Lift the wheels on one side of a tractor and it wants to keep going
over.

John Martin





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Tim Wescott wrote:

On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:25:34 -0500, Pete C. wrote:

steamer wrote:

--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort where
we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a long
rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.


The roads / highways around me have some quite steep embankments and
it's pretty scary watching the mowing crews with the full sized tractors
and triple mower decks operating at what must be a 30+ degree angle. I
haven't seen one on it's side yet though.


They can come mow my place...

I could reverse the rear wheels on my tractor, which spaces them out a
few inches. Much of my problem is just not knowing how much tilt is too
much -- it's not like you can fall over half way then stop and back out.



Get some goats, and use GPS to keep track of them. ;-)


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On Aug 18, 11:29*pm, Tim Wescott wrote:

They can come mow my place...

I could reverse the rear wheels on my tractor, which spaces them out a
few inches. *Much of my problem is just not knowing how much tilt is too
much -- it's not like you can fall over half way then stop and back out.

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http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=34214

But you would have still have to figure out how much tilt is too
much. Maybe jack up one side with chains limiting the amount of tilt
to just a bit more than how much the jack has tilted it.

Dan

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On Aug 18, 11:29 pm, Tim Wescott wrote:

They can come mow my place...

I could reverse the rear wheels on my tractor, which spaces them out a
few inches. Much of my problem is just not knowing how much tilt is too
much -- it's not like you can fall over half way then stop and back out.

--www.wescottdesign.com



http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=34214

But you would have still have to figure out how much tilt is too
much. Maybe jack up one side with chains limiting the amount of tilt
to just a bit more than how much the jack has tilted it.

Dan


i'd imagine if you're pushing it right to the edge of what your mower can
handle, it would be a simple thing to exceed it, for example if you run over
a woodchuck hole, or a unexpected high spot. my compact farm tractor says
in the operators manual how much of an angle is safe to operate it at.
still seems scary even at taht angle.

my story, there's a bank on one side of my pond, used to be grass, would
have to mow down the hill, stop, reverse back up the hill, etc. one time i
was mowing down the hill, the front wheel fell into a muskrat hole/den,
collapsed it and then the weight of the tractor fell on the mower deck, the
mower deck doesn't have brakes (front wheels don't have brakes either), i
rolled forward towards the water ON the mower deck what seemed a LONG way,
(but was probably only 2 feet? 3 feet max?) seemed like a LONG way though
to be out of control and heading for the water. i was imagining when i hit
the water/mud i wouldn't be able to stop at all, tractor going INTO the
pond, engine injesting water, etc. NEVER mowed that patch of grass again
with teh compact tractor. planted bamboo.

b.w.


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HI,

My father worked for state highway. Highway mowing crews do
flip tractors on occasions, but the state guys get the
equipment flipped back pretty quick. They also usually work
in pairs so there is help available quickly.

On his way home on evening, he spotted the township tractor
flipped and stopped to look. The driver was pinned, but not
crushed. My dad could move/rock the tractor enough to get
the guy free. He was wet and it was getting chilly, so he
might have suffered from exposure if Dad had not gotten him
free.

Thanks
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steamer wrote:
--There's a very wide, very steep embankment, maybe 8ft height
change top to bottom that gets mowed on the Delta, at the resort
where we go steamboating every year. The groundskeeper's lawnmower has a
long rope with a wooden handle on the end so that it can be 'lowered' over
the berm and retrieved. Works really well.


The roads / highways around me have some quite steep embankments and
it's pretty scary watching the mowing crews with the full sized tractors
and triple mower decks operating at what must be a 30+ degree angle. I
haven't seen one on it's side yet though.

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Roger Haar wrote:

HI,

My father worked for state highway. Highway mowing crews do
flip tractors on occasions, but the state guys get the
equipment flipped back pretty quick. They also usually work
in pairs so there is help available quickly.

On his way home on evening, he spotted the township tractor
flipped and stopped to look. The driver was pinned, but not
crushed. My dad could move/rock the tractor enough to get
the guy free. He was wet and it was getting chilly, so he
might have suffered from exposure if Dad had not gotten him
free.


Around here there are typically 6-8 tractors working together mowing an
area, that puts plenty of help nearby.
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