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I doubt it.
He wants another Maybach and he's tuned in to the Gunner set.
Nothing stupid about that.


I just saw a clip of him on TV from one of his shows recently. He was
yelling and waving his arms like a madman. The guy is manic.



If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it takes.

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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

I doubt it.
He wants another Maybach and he's tuned in to the Gunner set.
Nothing stupid about that.


I just saw a clip of him on TV from one of his shows recently. He was
yelling and waving his arms like a madman. The guy is manic.



If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.


"Anything for a buck" is not for me.

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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

I doubt it.
He wants another Maybach and he's tuned in to the Gunner set.
Nothing stupid about that.

I just saw a clip of him on TV from one of his shows recently. He was
yelling and waving his arms like a madman. The guy is manic.



If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.


"Anything for a buck" is not for me.

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I thought you were an Obama supporter? Obama supports the fairness
doctrine - anti free speech. Obama is for more gun control - anti 2nd
amendment. Obama is for the murder, Oh Yeah, excuse me, Killing of innocent
human life for the sake of convienience. And he got the votes for the
economy. The USA has sold out the constitution and moral values in hopes of
a better economy. Give the people what they want, may our money perish with
us.

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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

I doubt it.
He wants another Maybach and he's tuned in to the Gunner set.
Nothing stupid about that.

I just saw a clip of him on TV from one of his shows recently. He was
yelling and waving his arms like a madman. The guy is manic.



If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.


"Anything for a buck" is not for me.

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Ed Huntress


I thought you were an Obama supporter? Obama supports the fairness
doctrine - anti free speech.


Show me where he has supported it. In fact, he has explicitly said he
*doesn't* support it.

We'll stop there and wait for you to supply an answer, Roger, and then we
can address the rest if you're still up for it. You way you live on rumors
and talk radio b.s., it's very tedious to talk to you. This time, we'll take
it one step at a time until you see what you're talking about.

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Well, Obama said he was against the fairness doctrine, but then he turns
around and appoints a person to the FCC Chair that is very much for the
fairness doctrine. So, you are right according to Obama's words but I'm
listening to his actions. I am all for fairness but controlling what a
broadcaster broadcasts is as fair as forcing a country music station to play
rap. If the listener wants to hear something else, all they have to do is
change stations.

Now on to abortion. I believe abortion is morally wrong but that's my
beliefs. The government gives something like $300,000,000 of taxpayer money
to fund abortion and a large portion of the money goes to Planned
Parenthood. Planned Parenthood was trying to get the Government to pay for
the medicines that they sell to their customers at up to 1400% profit
margin. Where I see butchered babies, Planned Parenthood sees an
opportunity to get taxpayer money. Obama has plans to give Planned
Parenthood a huge raise.

You mentioned the baby dismemberment that was taking place because of the
ban on partial birth abortion. I'm sure the dismemberment is a horrible
thing but the partial birth abortion, where an instrument is stabbed in the
babies head and it's brains are sucked out and the skull collapsed, doesn't
sound much better. The idea of banning partial birth abortion was to try to
save babies lives, not have the butchers dismember the baby in the mothers
womb.

RogerN


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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

I doubt it.
He wants another Maybach and he's tuned in to the Gunner set.
Nothing stupid about that.

I just saw a clip of him on TV from one of his shows recently. He was
yelling and waving his arms like a madman. The guy is manic.



If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.

"Anything for a buck" is not for me.

--
Ed Huntress


I thought you were an Obama supporter? Obama supports the fairness
doctrine - anti free speech.


Show me where he has supported it. In fact, he has explicitly said he
*doesn't* support it.

We'll stop there and wait for you to supply an answer, Roger, and then we
can address the rest if you're still up for it. You way you live on rumors
and talk radio b.s., it's very tedious to talk to you. This time, we'll
take it one step at a time until you see what you're talking about.

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Well, Obama said he was against the fairness doctrine, but then he turns
around and appoints a person to the FCC Chair that is very much for the
fairness doctrine. So, you are right according to Obama's words but I'm
listening to his actions.


He hasn't appointed anyone to head the FCC yet. He still has his transition
team working on possible candidates. What kind of stuff are you reading,
Roger?

I am all for fairness but controlling what a broadcaster broadcasts is as
fair as forcing a country music station to play rap. If the listener
wants to hear something else, all they have to do is change stations.


I don't think you'll see Obama try to resurrect the Fairness Doctrine. It
made sense in 1949, when few markets had more than one or two TV stations,
at most, and the question of whether broadcasters should be treated as
common carriers or not raged in the telecommunications field until the '70s.
But that was before cable and the Internet, and isn't taken seriously by
many people today. As far as I know, all Obama has said is that he doesn't
favor it.

Now on to abortion. I believe abortion is morally wrong but that's my
beliefs. The government gives something like $300,000,000 of taxpayer
money to fund abortion and a large portion of the money goes to Planned
Parenthood.


No. Planned Parenthood is prevented from spending federal money for
abortions under Title X. Most of the federal money goes to birth control,
screening and treatment for sexually transmitted diseases, screening for
breast cancer and hypertension, prenatal care, postpartum counseling and
well-baby care. That's most of what they do. Most fundies don't realize
that.

The federal money that does for abortions applies only in cases of rape,
incest, and life-threatening health conditions to the mother, as limited by
the Hyde Amendment. It's a minute fraction of what you quoted.

Planned Parenthood was trying to get the Government to pay for the
medicines that they sell to their customers at up to 1400% profit margin.
Where I see butchered babies, Planned Parenthood sees an opportunity to
get taxpayer money.


More horse****. Let me ask you again: Where do you get this stuff?

Obama has plans to give Planned Parenthood a huge raise.


Tell us about those plans, Roger. What's your basis for this claim?


You mentioned the baby dismemberment that was taking place because of the
ban on partial birth abortion. I'm sure the dismemberment is a horrible
thing but the partial birth abortion, where an instrument is stabbed in
the babies head and it's brains are sucked out and the skull collapsed,
doesn't sound much better. The idea of banning partial birth abortion was
to try to save babies lives, not have the butchers dismember the baby in
the mothers womb.


And it failed to do that because it was a political ploy from the very
beginning. The whole thing has an interesting history.

What they neglected to tell anyone (but which the cynical *******s knew all
along) is that putting an end to ID&E would just switch the practice to
intrauterine dismemberment. The reason ID had lost favor is that it raises
large risks to the mother, including unextracted tissue and frequent tearing
of the uterine walls. I shouldn't have to tell you how dangerous that is. In
any case, it didn't reduce late-term abortions much, if at all. It just made
them more hellish.

Now, you may ask, since you think I spend huge amounts of time here, how
does Huntress know about these things? Regarding the Fairness Doctrine, one
of my degrees is in telecommunications, and I had to debate the doctrine and
write about it around 1970, when it was still hot. My advisor was Dr. John
Abel, former Executive VP of the National Association of Broadcasters, and I
did license-renewal research for him, including documenting Fairness
Doctrine issues.

Regarding abortion and Planned Parenthood, I have a personal interest,
because one of my college roommates was Maureen Paul, now Dr. Maureen Paul,
one of the top experts in ID&E and an executive with Planned Parenthood in
New York and San Francisco in various years, who was under threat from the
fundies for over two years and had to wear a bulletproof vest and had to be
escorted by the FBI to and from work. You should look her up on Google. I
haven't talked to her since but I followed her situation and studied her
work for years, because she was a very important person in my life. She's
conducted a lot of abortions and is one of the most moral and decent people
I've ever known. She'd really stand your preconceptions on their head if you
should meet and talk to her.

I don't spend as much time here as you think. I just type like lightning,
and I learned how to learn and research many years ago, specifically to
communicate accurate information to the people I wrote for, as a magazine
writer. Think of it as the opposite of what those people do that you get
your "facts" from. They're my sworn enemy.

We're done here, Roger. You won't take the time to actually check your
claims, which means I have to do it if we're going to have a conversation.
So we're not going to have any more conversation.

Good luck, good health, and may your blood pressure stay in the healthy
range. g

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I doubt it.
He wants another Maybach and he's tuned in to the Gunner set.
Nothing stupid about that.

I just saw a clip of him on TV from one of his shows recently. He was
yelling and waving his arms like a madman. The guy is manic.



If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.

"Anything for a buck" is not for me.

--
Ed Huntress


I thought you were an Obama supporter? Obama supports the fairness
doctrine - anti free speech.


Show me where he has supported it. In fact, he has explicitly said he
*doesn't* support it.

We'll stop there and wait for you to supply an answer, Roger, and then we
can address the rest if you're still up for it. You way you live on rumors
and talk radio b.s., it's very tedious to talk to you. This time, we'll

take
it one step at a time until you see what you're talking about.

--
Ed Huntress


Great isn't it how the right wingers are already blaming Obama for all kinds
of things while George Bush is still president and the problems we have are
still his until he leaves office. It does give a forewarning of what they
will be doing after Obama is actually in power. He's in for a continuous
barrage of negativity from the right wing. Lucky for us he knows how to
handle crazy people.

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I doubt it.
He wants another Maybach and he's tuned in to the Gunner set.
Nothing stupid about that.

I just saw a clip of him on TV from one of his shows recently. He was
yelling and waving his arms like a madman. The guy is manic.



If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.


"Anything for a buck" is not for me.

--
Ed Huntress



Have you noticed how working men simply can't relate to people with wealth?
F. Scott Fitzgerald was right after all. They seem to think the wealthy are
just like them and their motivations are the same. For most rich people, and
I mean those with a hundred million or more, getting another big chunk of
dough isn't that important. Look at Ted Turner, Bill Gates, or T. Boone
Pickens. Making more doesn't mean anything to them. But to working stiffs
they seem to think everyone is doing "whatever it takes" to get more. I
guess they'll never get it, which proves why they are working class and will
never be anything else.

Hawke


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On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:47:46 -0800, the renowned "Hawke"
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I doubt it.
He wants another Maybach and he's tuned in to the Gunner set.
Nothing stupid about that.

I just saw a clip of him on TV from one of his shows recently. He was
yelling and waving his arms like a madman. The guy is manic.



If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.


"Anything for a buck" is not for me.

--
Ed Huntress



Have you noticed how working men simply can't relate to people with wealth?
F. Scott Fitzgerald was right after all. They seem to think the wealthy are
just like them and their motivations are the same. For most rich people, and
I mean those with a hundred million or more, getting another big chunk of
dough isn't that important. Look at Ted Turner, Bill Gates, or T. Boone
Pickens. Making more doesn't mean anything to them. But to working stiffs
they seem to think everyone is doing "whatever it takes" to get more. I
guess they'll never get it, which proves why they are working class and will
never be anything else.

Hawke


To turn $100 into $110 is work.
To turn $100 million into $110 million is inevitable.
--Edgar Bronfman



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If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.


"Anything for a buck" is not for me.



I think Rush would still be doing it at 1M. He actually believes what he says.

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"Ed Huntress" wrote:

If you were Rush and 400M was on the line I bet you would do what it
takes.


"Anything for a buck" is not for me.



I think Rush would still be doing it at 1M. He actually believes what he
says.


I don't doubt that at all.

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