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New Gun Problem
On 2008-09-29, Sunworshipper Sunworshipper wrote:
I hope I'm not gonna have to fix this problem. I bought this chick gun as I call it a couple of years ago I guess. It is a Model 60 (I think) S&W .357 Mag. 5 shot. The other day I shot it with another for the first time and this thing shoots 1.5' low @ maybe 200'. It has one of those like fiber optic plastic end sights and wondering if I have to have the bottom of the big red dot above the "rail". The book and box are deep in storage. Am I gonna have to send this thing back to the factory? The S&W site I tryed e-mailing before I bought it was no help. How, do I go about fixing this problem. I'm thinking it is just us, but I know how to shoot a gun and it is 1.5 feet low. I've asked around here and all I get is "what ammo? and doesn't sound good". BTW 120 g. Oh, seems to have excessive side shrapnel, I had to stand back further than I thought when the other shot it. Hmm ... is it shaving lead when going from the cylinder to the barrel? If so, then it sounds as though cylinder alignment is not quite right among other things. Not sure whether this would lead to 1.5 foot drop, however. But it would slow the bullet down noticeably, and those 5-shot guns tend to have rather short barrels for ease of concealment, so the "what ammo" question I consider meaningful. A quick-burning powder which would get mostly burnt before the bullet exited the little 2" barrel would get a lot more muzzle velocity than one with a slower-burning powder in the same barrel -- even though the slower-burning powder might well get more muzzle velocity in a 6" or 8" barrel. So -- if you have a combination of muzzle velocity loss from the wrong powder and from serious lead shaving going from cylinder to barrel, then you might be slow enough for the 1.5 foot drop to be reasonable. And -- I'm not sure that something with that short a barrel makes sense to be using at 200 feet. I've seen that kind of drop in a ..38 special with a similarly short barrel in 100 feet. I don't know what to do. Write snail mail to S&W, or call those bone heads where I bought it. The latter might be fun. Since I'm on guns. I can't get a .22 rifle up here and I'd like to taste a goose for the first time before they all leave south like I should be doing. LOL. What is the deal? I have two registered guns and can't buy a pop gun. Where is "up here"? Sounds like someplace to avoid to me. :-) Suppose I'll have to wait and give a DNA sample to get a shot gun to shoot partridge. :-) Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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New Gun Problem
On 30 Sep 2008 04:06:25 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote: On 2008-09-29, Sunworshipper Sunworshipper wrote: I hope I'm not gonna have to fix this problem. I bought this chick gun as I call it a couple of years ago I guess. It is a Model 60 (I think) S&W .357 Mag. 5 shot. The other day I shot it with another for the first time and this thing shoots 1.5' low @ maybe 200'. It has one of those like fiber optic plastic end sights and wondering if I have to have the bottom of the big red dot above the "rail". The book and box are deep in storage. Am I gonna have to send this thing back to the factory? The S&W site I tryed e-mailing before I bought it was no help. How, do I go about fixing this problem. I'm thinking it is just us, but I know how to shoot a gun and it is 1.5 feet low. I've asked around here and all I get is "what ammo? and doesn't sound good". BTW 120 g. Oh, seems to have excessive side shrapnel, I had to stand back further than I thought when the other shot it. Hmm ... is it shaving lead when going from the cylinder to the barrel? If so, then it sounds as though cylinder alignment is not quite right among other things. Not sure whether this would lead to 1.5 foot drop, however. But it would slow the bullet down noticeably, and those 5-shot guns tend to have rather short barrels for ease of concealment, so the "what ammo" question I consider meaningful. A quick-burning powder which would get mostly burnt before the bullet exited the little 2" barrel would get a lot more muzzle velocity than one with a slower-burning powder in the same barrel -- even though the slower-burning powder might well get more muzzle velocity in a 6" or 8" barrel. So -- if you have a combination of muzzle velocity loss from the wrong powder and from serious lead shaving going from cylinder to barrel, then you might be slow enough for the 1.5 foot drop to be reasonable. And -- I'm not sure that something with that short a barrel makes sense to be using at 200 feet. I've seen that kind of drop in a .38 special with a similarly short barrel in 100 feet. I don't know what to do. Write snail mail to S&W, or call those bone heads where I bought it. The latter might be fun. Since I'm on guns. I can't get a .22 rifle up here and I'd like to taste a goose for the first time before they all leave south like I should be doing. LOL. What is the deal? I have two registered guns and can't buy a pop gun. Where is "up here"? Sounds like someplace to avoid to me. :-) Suppose I'll have to wait and give a DNA sample to get a shot gun to shoot partridge. :-) Good Luck, DoN. No ****. Something is wrong up here. Like I moved to a different country. Weird is all I can say. Took me 2 months to get a drivers licence. And now can't get a new gun. It has been a month or more and the gun shop is still holding the gun and I feel bad to inadvertently stringing them along, as I see it. Up here , is north country. I swore I would never do winter like this kind, ever, again. All I need is a .22 rifle and a shot gun with my SKS and pocket gun, but they don't seem to realize that I protected 40 judges and never hurt a one. Hey, they have big turkeys up here and I hear ya have to shoot them 200' from the road. I'm like , I'll bring a landscape tape measure and shoo them off in the woods to take a head shot. Probably have to shoot them with a shot gun and full of pellets to make it legal. O well , what else is new. |
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