Not too sure when they started carrying Evapo-Rust, but the
early coupon flier this week has it listed, $19.99 for one
gallon. About halfway down on the following page:

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...2_retailA.html

Coupon good 08/04-08/09.

Regular link to the item page:

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...o?itemid=96431


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Leon Fisk wrote:

Not too sure when they started carrying Evapo-Rust, but the
early coupon flier this week has it listed, $19.99 for one
gallon. About halfway down on the following page:

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...2_retailA.html

Coupon good 08/04-08/09.

Regular link to the item page:

http://www.harborfreightusa.com/usa/...o?itemid=96431



So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

"Grant Erwin" wrote in message
news:%r0mk.311$mP.105@trnddc03...

So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

Looks like it's the bee's knees to take off rust. See the pics and
description about halfway down this page:

http://www.chaski.org/homemachinist/...ic.php?t=79489

The HF sale price is ok, probably not a big savings, but for those with an
HF outlet nearby, it saves on shipping from the more conventional sources.

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:52:59 GMT, Grant Erwin
wrote:

snip
So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

Grant, do you ever read any postings made here by other
people? I guess not of you would already know what it is...

It has been talked about numerous times in the past, even
mentioned with the past week. You even replied to one post
by "Michael Koblic" asking about de-rusting some old dies
with it.

I've never tried it yet because it had to be shipped in and
that drove the cost out of my comfort range. Now that it is
available locally (if they actually have it in stock at HF)
I may give it a try.

I've only read/seen good reviews for it during the past few
years.

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Grant Erwin wrote:

So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?


Better yet, where can I get some bo-shield at a resonable overall cost?

Wes
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Leon Fisk wrote:

I've never tried it yet because it had to be shipped in and
that drove the cost out of my comfort range. Now that it is
available locally (if they actually have it in stock at HF)
I may give it a try.

I've only read/seen good reviews for it during the past few
years.


There is a local area store in Grand Rapids, I've been there once. Of course the trip to
NAMES is now my yearly trip to HF.

Wes

Have you guys tried muriatic acid?
Cheap , easy to find...


"Wes" wrote in message
...
Grant Erwin wrote:

So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?


Better yet, where can I get some bo-shield at a resonable overall cost?

Wes
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In article %r0mk.311$mP.105@trnddc03,
Grant Erwin wrote:


So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

For de-rusting your M1A1 main battle tank, of course.

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On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:13:02 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Grant Erwin wrote:

So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?


Better yet, where can I get some bo-shield at a resonable overall cost?


T9 is not reasonably priced stuff, Wes. Try Johnson's Paste Wax,
available at Wally World for $4 and change. It'll last you a year or
three, ah reckon. I use it more for my woodworking tools (hand
planes, chisels, tablesaur top, etc.) but it works on my metalworking
tools, too.

Boeshield is only $109.99 from www.boeshield.com or $84.99 a gallon
from http://www.theruststore.com/Boeshiel...llon-P5C4.aspx
Pass!

Oh, Boeshield Rust Free is $75/gal plus shipping if you were looking
for that. Still not reasonable.


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Leon Fisk wrote:

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:52:59 GMT, Grant Erwin
wrote:

snip

So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?


Grant, do you ever read any postings made here by other
people? I guess not of you would already know what it is...

snicker only since about 1994 .. but somehow miraculously although I
vaguely recall hearing it mentioned, I actually don't know what it is
used for. The difference between asking actual users of a product and
googling on it can be significant at times. I'm real good at googling.

Let's see .. Google has archived 16,400 posts by me to this NG.
Google has archived 1,370 posts by you to this NG.

well, then.

Grant Erwin
Kirkland, Washington

"Jon" wrote: Have you guys tried muriatic acid?
Cheap , easy to find...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Muriatic acid removes rust ver nicely, but, unfortunately, it does not stop
there. If you are working on something like a steel measuring scale, or a
pair of caliopers with an adjusting thread, you muriatic acid may start on
the details in the metal before it is completely finished with the rust.

Evaporust looks and feels like liquid detergent, and they claim it is
harmless to the skin. Muriatic acid ain't.

On 2008-08-05, Jedd Haas wrote:
In article %r0mk.311$mP.105@trnddc03,
Grant Erwin wrote:


So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

For de-rusting your M1A1 main battle tank, of course.


And to prevent them from rusting, you can buy tank-hatch dehumidifiers
from me, of course. They come from real battle tanks.

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Grant Erwin writes:

So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

Suspected to be a few cents worth of EDTA in water for $20/gallon. The
bottler won't be honest about what it is. The publish an MSDS that sez
nothing is in it that is hazardous. This in a world where water is
hazardous for MSDS purposes.

It's one of those things that 3M doesn't think is worth selling, but is
effectively hustled by a small outfit. Such as via newsgroup spam and
inflated "military" testimonials.

Really, what kind of technician relies on a product that has no scientific
basis, precisely because the maker won't tell you what's in it?

Larry Jaques wrote:

T9 is not reasonably priced stuff, Wes. Try Johnson's Paste Wax,
available at Wally World for $4 and change. It'll last you a year or
three, ah reckon. I use it more for my woodworking tools (hand
planes, chisels, tablesaur top, etc.) but it works on my metalworking
tools, too.

Boeshield is only $109.99 from www.boeshield.com or $84.99 a gallon
from http://www.theruststore.com/Boeshiel...llon-P5C4.aspx
Pass!

Oh, Boeshield Rust Free is $75/gal plus shipping if you were looking
for that. Still not reasonable.


Guess I'll stick with JPW (floor non silicone). Thanks for the heads up on that.

Wes

On Aug 5, 9:08 pm, Richard J Kinch wrote:
Grant Erwin writes:
So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

Suspected to be a few cents worth of EDTA in water for $20/gallon. The
bottler won't be honest about what it is. The publish an MSDS that sez
nothing is in it that is hazardous. This in a world where water is
hazardous for MSDS purposes.

It's one of those things that 3M doesn't think is worth selling, but is
effectively hustled by a small outfit. Such as via newsgroup spam and
inflated "military" testimonials.

Really, what kind of technician relies on a product that has no scientific
basis, precisely because the maker won't tell you what's in it?


Sounds like someone needs to find some EDTA and run a test.

Do bacteria break down EDTA?



Dave

On Aug 6, 8:56 am, wrote:
On Aug 5, 9:08 pm, Richard J Kinch wrote:

Grant Erwin writes:
So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

Suspected to be a few cents worth of EDTA in water for $20/gallon. The
bottler won't be honest about what it is. The publish an MSDS that sez
nothing is in it that is hazardous. This in a world where water is
hazardous for MSDS purposes.

It's one of those things that 3M doesn't think is worth selling, but is
effectively hustled by a small outfit. Such as via newsgroup spam and
inflated "military" testimonials.

Really, what kind of technician relies on a product that has no scientific
basis, precisely because the maker won't tell you what's in it?

Sounds like someone needs to find some EDTA and run a test.

Do bacteria break down EDTA?

Dave


There seems to be some info out there on using chelating agents in
general for de-rusting, and reports EDTA will attack the non-rusty
areas. Seem to be some patents in this area.

6310024 is interesting.

Dave

On Aug 5, 3:08*pm, Richard J Kinch wrote:
Grant Erwin writes:
So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

Suspected to be a few cents worth of EDTA in water for $20/gallon. *The
bottler won't be honest about what it is. *The publish an MSDS that sez
nothing is in it that is hazardous. *This in a world where water is
hazardous for MSDS purposes.

It's one of those things that 3M doesn't think is worth selling, but is
effectively hustled by a small outfit. *Such as via newsgroup spam and
inflated "military" testimonials.

Really, what kind of technician relies on a product that has no scientific
basis, precisely because the maker won't tell you what's in it?

Here's some info on the general idea:
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/54...scription.html
I use Zep Metal Prep Dip Rust Remover. I have no idea what's in it but
I'm trying to find out.
Karl

On Aug 5, 2:13*pm, Wes wrote:
Grant Erwin wrote:
So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

Better yet, where can I get some bo-shield at a resonable overall cost?

Wes

Define "reasonable". I got a spray can, about 10 oz., from a
woodworking supplier at a show one time, $10. Has gone up from
there. I've been working my way through a can of stuff called
"Slipit", looks like wax dissolved in a solvent, same woodworker's
show, different year. Works well for stationary cast iron tools like
saw tables, drill press columns and tables and the like. A pint can
has lasted 10 years or better. For stuff exposed to weather, I use
LPS III, works like spray-on cosmoline. They're getting very proud of
that, too. Bo-Shield doesn't seem to work THAT much better than the
alternatives I've been using. You can get small spray cans of it from
the usual online woodworking supply dealers for what seems to be
inflated prices.


Stan

Grant Erwin writes:
So what's Evapo-Rust, and why would I want it?

Suspected to be a few cents worth of EDTA in water for $20/gallon. The
bottler won't be honest about what it is. The publish an MSDS that sez
nothing is in it that is hazardous. This in a world where water is
hazardous for MSDS purposes.
It's one of those things that 3M doesn't think is worth selling, but is
effectively hustled by a small outfit. Such as via newsgroup spam and
inflated "military" testimonials.
Really, what kind of technician relies on a product that has no scientific
basis, precisely because the maker won't tell you what's in it?
Sounds like someone needs to find some EDTA and run a test.

Ok, here's a testimonial:

I've been using Evaporust for 2 years, ever since the new sales manager
gave me a couple gallons to try. I've de-rusted taps & dies, machine
tooling of all types, antique lathes, gun parts, you name it.

The stuff is straw-colored, slightly thicker than water.
You place your nasty, rusted, even slightly oily part in a plastic
container, then pour enough Evaporust over it to cover it.
Go away for 2 hours or 2 months, maybe longer. When you pull it out, it
is shiny and clean, with maybe a black oxide coating on it that wipes
off. High-carbon tooling will retain a dark color.
It doesn't hurt most paints, and doesn't attack any metal that i have
found. I use aluminum round cut-offs to take up space, they still look new.
You can re-use it until it's so black you hate to touch it, then pour
it down the drain or on the lawn.
Right now I have some sort of antique formula car suspension piece
soaking. It was nickle-plated, badly rust-freckled. I couln't get it all
into the pan (a flower-planting trough from HD) so I turned it over last
rip out to the shop. The part that was soaked was clean as a pin. It
leaves a thin coat that will prevent flash-rust until you can get it
protected, but I usually just wipe it off and leave it.

I'm a believer. You guys can futz with acid and electrodes all you want,
but I've already cut out that coupon and I'll stop by HF and pick up a
couple gallons.
The irony is I can't get the people here where I work to buy the
stuff so we can sell it. I think AutoZone also sells it.

RB wrote:

The irony is I can't get the people here where I work to buy the
stuff so we can sell it. I think AutoZone also sells it.

Googling got this link:
http://www.evapo-rust.com/

Where to buy it turned up autozone near me.

http://www.evapo-rust.com/wheretobuyit/

I'll buy some to play with. Thanks.

Wes
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

In article , wrote:
RB wrote:

The irony is I can't get the people here where I work to buy the
stuff so we can sell it. I think AutoZone also sells it.

Googling got this link:
http://www.evapo-rust.com/

Where to buy it turned up autozone near me.

http://www.evapo-rust.com/wheretobuyit/

I'll buy some to play with. Thanks.

I've been very happy with it as well. It works as described, and I've
never had it attack anything. If you can't compeltely cover
something & leave it in for a long time, you can get discoloration at the
air interface, but I've never had any corrosion or pitting.

One trick I learned for large objects is to soak a piece of synthetic
chamois cloth ("super towels"), or a sponge in it, and then lash it to
the rusted surface for a while. I've managed to remove a lot of rust
thsi way from a sheet metal shear that I don't want to disassemble.

I'm glad to hear it's becoming more widely available. That should help
to bring the cost down & I won't have to pay shipping on the next batch.

Doug White

That gives me some confidence.
I got a bottle of the stuff sitting on a shelf. I bought it because the
KrudCutter Must-for-rust is so irritating (albeit effective at rust
removal). Take one whiff of the stuff even with a good mask and I am
congested for the rest of the day.

I did a lot of googling about rust removal and Evaporust came recommended.
It is also available from Canadian Tire and Lee Valley (the latter is
somewhat of a recommendation in itself).

Today I scored a bunch of assorted fasteners in a garage sale, many of them
heavily rusted so I am going to see how good Evaporust really is :-)

--
Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

"Doug White" wrote in message
...
I've been very happy with it as well. It works as described, and I've
never had it attack anything. If you can't compeltely cover
something & leave it in for a long time, you can get discoloration at the
air interface, but I've never had any corrosion or pitting.

One trick I learned for large objects is to soak a piece of synthetic
chamois cloth ("super towels"), or a sponge in it, and then lash it to
the rusted surface for a while. I've managed to remove a lot of rust
thsi way from a sheet metal shear that I don't want to disassemble.

I'm glad to hear it's becoming more widely available. That should help
to bring the cost down & I won't have to pay shipping on the next batch.

Doug White

Doug White wrote:

I've been very happy with it as well. It works as described, and I've
never had it attack anything. If you can't compeltely cover
something & leave it in for a long time, you can get discoloration at the
air interface, but I've never had any corrosion or pitting.

It does remove some paints.
The blue paint on an old AA minilathe doesn't hold up to it, but it's
probably the cheapest water-soluble stuff available in the 1930s. Seems
more akin to whitewash.

At the other end of the scale, it attacked the paint of an Emco 8.6
tailstock, which really surprised me. But I did emerse the entire
tailstock, with good results. And the Evaporust was very black when I
put it in. That particular gallon left with the new owner of the lathe.

One trick I learned for large objects is to soak a piece of synthetic
chamois cloth ("super towels"), or a sponge in it, and then lash it to
the rusted surface for a while. I've managed to remove a lot of rust
thsi way from a sheet metal shear that I don't want to disassemble.

Another option for large objects that are not readily submersible:
Get a tabletop fountain pump from HD or a craft store. Pump the fluid
over the rusted area so that it runs back down into your tub of
Evaporust, where the pump is submerged. It washes the rust off.

Larry Jaques wrote:

T9 is not reasonably priced stuff, Wes. Try Johnson's Paste Wax,
available at Wally World for $4 and change. It'll last you a year or
three, ah reckon. I use it more for my woodworking tools (hand
planes, chisels, tablesaur top, etc.) but it works on my metalworking
tools, too.

Boeshield is only $109.99 from www.boeshield.com or $84.99 a gallon
from http://www.theruststore.com/Boeshiel...llon-P5C4.aspx
Pass!

McMaster Carr
10215K13 4 oz 8.47
10215K15 16 oz 16.74

I'll try it on a few things I really care about.

Wes