I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Stealth Pilot

Stealth Pilot fired this volley in
:


I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?


they are. Try MicroMark tools.

However, this is a machining sig. Why not chuck up a lump of steel in
your lathe and make one? The only milling required would be to plunge-
cut the handle pocket.

LLoyd

Stealth Pilot wrote:


I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Stealth Pilot


http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

I love my itty bitty hammer. I have the second one.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:21:40 +0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
Stealth Pilot quickly quoth:


I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Everywhere. http://tinyurl.com/5ewlfr
Stanley, Searz, Vaughn/Bushnell have 'em in steel.
Widget Supply has 'em in brass.
etc.

I picked up a nice little Warrington hammer at Lee Valley a few years
ago. I use it to adjust my wooden plane blades. (No, Tawm, they're
steel blades which fit into wooden planes.)
http://www.leevalley.com/images/item...23k0101g1b.jpg

--
"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free
than Christianity has made them good." --H. L. Mencken
---

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:04:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:21:40 +0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
Stealth Pilot quickly quoth:


I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Everywhere. http://tinyurl.com/5ewlfr
Stanley, Searz, Vaughn/Bushnell have 'em in steel.
Widget Supply has 'em in brass.
etc.

I picked up a nice little Warrington hammer at Lee Valley a few years
ago. I use it to adjust my wooden plane blades. (No, Tawm, they're
steel blades which fit into wooden planes.)
http://www.leevalley.com/images/item...23k0101g1b.jpg


well I'll be blowed. they are nowhere to be found where I live.

On Jul 17, 3:21*am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Stealth Pilot

Here you go:

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools...e=snapon-store

Snap-on has ball pein hammers down to 2 oz.

dennis
in nca

On Jul 17, 5:04*am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Stealth Pilot fired this volley :



I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

they are. *Try MicroMark tools. *

However, this is a machining sig. *Why not chuck up a lump of steel in
your lathe and make one? *The only milling required would be to plunge-
cut the handle pocket.

LLoyd

But the "handle pocket" is not straight sided and don't forget the
heat treating; VERY important for this type of hammer.

dennis
in nca

"rigger" wrote in message
...
On Jul 17, 5:04 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Stealth Pilot fired this volley
:



I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

they are. Try MicroMark tools.

However, this is a machining sig. Why not chuck up a lump of steel in
your lathe and make one? The only milling required would be to plunge-
cut the handle pocket.

LLoyd

But the "handle pocket" is not straight sided and don't forget the
heat treating; VERY important for this type of hammer.

The socket is tapered in both directions, with the longer taper on top. And
the face is hardened and tempered overall to a medium-high hardness. Then
the outer edge of the face is tempered to dark blue, using an "iron" that
has a cone-shaped socket, which is heated to red heat, into which the hammer
face is pushed for a few seconds to transfer heat to just the peripheral
edge.

It's a little tricky if you're trying to make a high-quality hammer,
particularly if you need a polished face. I have three raising hammers that
were custom-made that way by an expert, in the 1930s.

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote:
"rigger" wrote in message
...

But the "handle pocket" is not straight sided and don't forget the
heat treating; VERY important for this type of hammer.

I'd think that the heat treating was actually not very important at all for
a 4oz hammer. A hammer of that size is just going to be used for light
taping I would think. What am I missing?

The socket is tapered in both directions, with the longer taper on top.
And the face is hardened and tempered overall to a medium-high hardness.
Then the outer edge of the face is tempered to dark blue, using an "iron"
that has a cone-shaped socket, which is heated to red heat, into which
the hammer face is pushed for a few seconds to transfer heat to just the
peripheral edge.

It's a little tricky if you're trying to make a high-quality hammer,
particularly if you need a polished face. I have three raising hammers
that were custom-made that way by an expert, in the 1930s.

Very cool.

--
Curt Welch http://CurtWelch.Com/
http://NewsReader.Com/

"Curt Welch" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:
"rigger" wrote in message
...

But the "handle pocket" is not straight sided and don't forget the
heat treating; VERY important for this type of hammer.

I'd think that the heat treating was actually not very important at all
for
a 4oz hammer. A hammer of that size is just going to be used for light
taping I would think. What am I missing?

It depends on what you're tapping. If you're tapping hardened pins into
their holes, you need a properly hardened face or it will get dented. If
you're heading copper rivets, it doesn't matter much. If you're planishing
decorative metal work over a polished stake, you need a polished face -- and
it won't stay polished very long if it isn't properly hardened.

But the worst thing is to harden them the way the Chinese do, and the
Japanese used to do, which is to uniformly harden the whole face. When you
do that, you'll eventually get chipped edges on the hammer face.


The socket is tapered in both directions, with the longer taper on top.
And the face is hardened and tempered overall to a medium-high hardness.
Then the outer edge of the face is tempered to dark blue, using an "iron"
that has a cone-shaped socket, which is heated to red heat, into which
the hammer face is pushed for a few seconds to transfer heat to just the
peripheral edge.

It's a little tricky if you're trying to make a high-quality hammer,
particularly if you need a polished face. I have three raising hammers
that were custom-made that way by an expert, in the 1930s.

Very cool.

--
Curt Welch
http://CurtWelch.Com/

http://NewsReader.Com/

On Jul 17, 4:21*am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Stealth Pilot

The local True Value has them down to 1 oz. A wall full of chisels and
punches right next to them, too. Also carries the Nupla line of
interchangeable heads as well as larger changeable head hammers. If
the HD or Lowe's borgs have carried off your local real hardware
stores, it's a Bad Thing.

I've inherited a bunch of old hammers, some factory-made, some
blacksmith-made. Biggest thing in longevity is the tapered socket.
If they don't have that, they're best used for scrap iron. Also, ash
or hickory replacement handles are getting to be close to the price of
a new fiberglass-handled hammer. I have a bucket full of
replacements, so I'm covered for most sizes.

Stan

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:04:14 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Stealth Pilot wrote:


I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Stealth Pilot


http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

I love my itty bitty hammer. I have the second one.

Condolences on owning cheap Searz crap, Wes.


I love my itty bitty little hammers, too. I forgot the chasing hammah
I got from Widget. It could be used as a ball peen, too.
http://www.widgetsupply.com/page/WS/...mmer/SHB4-8336

I noticed that they also have a replaceable tip (5) hammer which might
come in handy. I could have used one yesterday tapping the rubber
caliper holddown gidgegadgets into place on the Bronco.
http://www.widgetsupply.com/page/WS/...mmer/SAA2-55HH

--
"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free
than Christianity has made them good." --H. L. Mencken
---

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:04:10 +0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
Stealth Pilot quickly quoth:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:04:48 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:21:40 +0800, with neither quill nor qualm,
Stealth Pilot quickly quoth:


I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Everywhere. http://tinyurl.com/5ewlfr
Stanley, Searz, Vaughn/Bushnell have 'em in steel.
Widget Supply has 'em in brass.
etc.

I picked up a nice little Warrington hammer at Lee Valley a few years
ago. I use it to adjust my wooden plane blades. (No, Tawm, they're
steel blades which fit into wooden planes.)
http://www.leevalley.com/images/item...23k0101g1b.jpg


well I'll be blowed. they are nowhere to be found where I live.

Yeah, they're a specialty item, but they're easy to find. I googled
'em up in a gazillionth (or 1/4) of a second.

--
"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free
than Christianity has made them good." --H. L. Mencken
---

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:00:55 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


I fthe HD or Lowe's borgs have carried off your local real hardware
stores, it's a Bad Thing.


thats what I'm finding.
Stealth Pilot

Larry Jaques wrote:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

I love my itty bitty hammer. I have the second one.

Condolences on owning cheap Searz crap, Wes.

Not all sears tools are crap. I seriously abuse certain tools that I have purchased from
sears and they hold up. Sometimes I view a tool as expendable if it gets a fastener loose
no matter how long a lever or big a hammer I use to provide torque.

I have Sears hand tools spanning across 38 years. Usually when I break one I've done
something out of the scope of the tools design with it. The exception was back in 1977 or
so, I couldn't keep a sears ratchet working for more than a few months. They seem to have
fixed the issue. Some where along the line I took to using breaker bars instead of
ratchets for the tight ones.

I'm not a sears diehard by any means. My work box has Armstrong, EASCO, SK-Wayne,
Continental American ( 1970's line of Japanese tools ), Thorsen, Stanley, even a few
Snap-on tools that were purchased by the company to replace a broken tool. I even have
some no-name china crap that looked like it was made well and guess what, that stuff has
held up.

I will admit that somewhere in the past Sears went cheap sorta like AMF and
Harley-Davidson. I passed on that crap. Six years ago, I had to go back to the
maintenance repair guy mode of making a living. The old well worn tools that I've
accumulated to get the job done are at work in the newer tool boxes.

The older boxes that are well worn out and in the garage have new Craftsman hand tools
from one of their many piece sets purchased 5 years ago. Nice and shiny, full sets of
everything, actually more tools at home than at work. The new stuff is working out fine
and I don't have to engrave my initials on each piece.

At work when I break something I just order a replacement from Mc Masters and take what I
get. I'm not into matching sets of tool box jewelry.

Now power tools, I don't buy power tools at sears. Especially wood working power tools.

What do you use a chasing hammer for? One of my favorite hammers is a 30# copper
electrode. Helps to align a big machine w/o leaving marks. Thumper is what I call it.

Wes




I love my itty bitty little hammers, too. I forgot the chasing hammah
I got from Widget. It could be used as a ball peen, too.
http://www.widgetsupply.com/page/WS/...mmer/SHB4-8336

I noticed that they also have a replaceable tip (5) hammer which might
come in handy. I could have used one yesterday tapping the rubber
caliper holddown gidgegadgets into place on the Bronco.
http://www.widgetsupply.com/page/WS/...mmer/SAA2-55HH
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:00:55 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 17, 4:21=A0am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
I have two of these little hammers which I find the most used and
useful of all the hammers in my workshop. one must be 90 years old.

I've been looking all over to get anothe, or another few, but am only
seeing ball pein hammers down to 8oz.

price of chinese progress?? are they still available?

Stealth Pilot

The local True Value has them down to 1 oz. A wall full of chisels and
punches right next to them, too. Also carries the Nupla line of
interchangeable heads as well as larger changeable head hammers. If
the HD or Lowe's borgs have carried off your local real hardware
stores, it's a Bad Thing.

I've inherited a bunch of old hammers, some factory-made, some
blacksmith-made. Biggest thing in longevity is the tapered socket.
If they don't have that, they're best used for scrap iron. Also, ash
or hickory replacement handles are getting to be close to the price of
a new fiberglass-handled hammer. I have a bucket full of
replacements, so I'm covered for most sizes.

Stan
I have a couple of Vaughn claw hammers. One with a wood handle and the
other with a fiberglass handle. I like the fiberglass handled one the
best. It seems to transfer less shock to my wrist and more to the
nail. That said, my chasing hammers have wooden handles carved to give
the correct amount of spring and I love 'em.
ERS

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:18:19 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

I love my itty bitty hammer. I have the second one.

Condolences on owning cheap Searz crap, Wes.

Not all sears tools are crap.
-------

Bwahahahahahaha! I rest my case.

--
"Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free
than Christianity has made them good." --H. L. Mencken
---

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 09:18:19 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...0P?vName=Tools

I love my itty bitty hammer. I have the second one.

Condolences on owning cheap Searz crap, Wes.

Not all sears tools are crap. I seriously abuse certain tools that I have purchased from
sears and they hold up. Sometimes I view a tool as expendable if it gets a fastener loose
no matter how long a lever or big a hammer I use to provide torque.

OK, I'm done laughing now. Here's a real reply.


I have Sears hand tools spanning across 38 years. Usually when I break one I've done
something out of the scope of the tools design with it. The exception was back in 1977 or
so, I couldn't keep a sears ratchet working for more than a few months. They seem to have
fixed the issue. Some where along the line I took to using breaker bars instead of
ratchets for the tight ones.

That's when I gave Searz my bucket of blood and pound of flesh, ending
my purchase of -anything- Searz since. In today's litigous world, and
if I were so inclined, I'm sure I'd have been able to get them to
settle my pain and suffering lawsuit for several million drachma, I'll
bet.


I'm not a sears diehard by any means. My work box has Armstrong, EASCO, SK-Wayne,
Continental American ( 1970's line of Japanese tools ), Thorsen, Stanley, even a few
Snap-on tools that were purchased by the company to replace a broken tool. I even have
some no-name china crap that looked like it was made well and guess what, that stuff has
held up.

Yeah, my toolbox is filled with Heinz-57 mfgr names, too. Pre-'75
crapsman, Matco, Snap-On, MAC, Cornwell, SK, B&K, + dozens more.


The older boxes that are well worn out and in the garage have new Craftsman hand tools
from one of their many piece sets purchased 5 years ago. Nice and shiny, full sets of
everything, actually more tools at home than at work. The new stuff is working out fine
and I don't have to engrave my initials on each piece.

My roller toolbox is an old Crapsman which Mom and Dad bought me for
my graduation from UTI. It's a sad reminder.


At work when I break something I just order a replacement from Mc Masters and take what I
get. I'm not into matching sets of tool box jewelry.

Nor am I. I buy good value tools. For occasional use, HF is fine. If
one breaks and I find that I used it a lot, I'll go buy a better tool
for more money. When I was working on auto front-ends a lot, I bought
the $250 MAC set of f/e tools. It's a 15" long damned-heavy-duty
ratchet with hollow sockets and a 3/4" square drive hole in the end
for use with a breaker bar. An HF or Crapsman rat**** just wouldn't
have worked for that. Ditto the Snap-On crows foot line wrenche
set.


Now power tools, I don't buy power tools at sears. Especially wood working power tools.

I believe Searz still has the ARHA routers on sale there.
(Automatic-Random-Height-Adjuster, where the bits don't stay put,
sometimes making lighter cuts, sometimes actually flying out at you.)
Loverly!


What do you use a chasing hammer for? One of my favorite hammers is a 30# copper
electrode. Helps to align a big machine w/o leaving marks. Thumper is what I call it.

Chasin' cats. (ask Ed) Ackshully, I need to straighten flashing on
occasion and thought having a few repousse tools wouldn't do me any
harm. I back it up with a hard piece of doug fir tubatwo.

--
Vidi, Vici, Veni
---

On 2008-07-18, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:04:14 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

[ ... ]

I love my itty bitty little hammers, too. I forgot the chasing hammah
I got from Widget. It could be used as a ball peen, too.
http://www.widgetsupply.com/page/WS/...mmer/SHB4-8336

In particular, I like the Starrett "toolmaker's hammer", a tiny
one-piece all-metal ball-pein with an open loop in the head into which
is inserted a lens to use as an assist in putting the tip of the prick
punch accurately on the intersection of the layout lines. And the
owner's manual is a nice bit of humor as well.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 19 Jul 2008 01:41:11 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "DoN.
Nichols" quickly quoth:

On 2008-07-18, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:04:14 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

[ ... ]

I love my itty bitty little hammers, too. I forgot the chasing hammah
I got from Widget. It could be used as a ball peen, too.
http://www.widgetsupply.com/page/WS/...mmer/SHB4-8336

In particular, I like the Starrett "toolmaker's hammer", a tiny
one-piece all-metal ball-pein with an open loop in the head into which
is inserted a lens to use as an assist in putting the tip of the prick
punch accurately on the intersection of the layout lines. And the
owner's manual is a nice bit of humor as well.

Where in the HELL did you see that on the Widget Supply site, DoN?

--
Vidi, Vici, Veni
---

On 2008-07-19, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
On 19 Jul 2008 01:41:11 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "DoN.
Nichols" quickly quoth:

On 2008-07-18, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:04:14 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

[ ... ]

I love my itty bitty little hammers, too. I forgot the chasing hammah
I got from Widget. It could be used as a ball peen, too.
http://www.widgetsupply.com/page/WS/...mmer/SHB4-8336

In particular, I like the Starrett "toolmaker's hammer", a tiny
one-piece all-metal ball-pein with an open loop in the head into which
is inserted a lens to use as an assist in putting the tip of the prick
punch accurately on the intersection of the layout lines. And the
owner's manual is a nice bit of humor as well.

Where in the HELL did you see that on the Widget Supply site, DoN?

Sorry -- I didn't see it there. I first saw it in Starrett's
catalog, then in an eBay auction (the hammers are sold either plain or
with the owner's (or recipient's) name engraved in the flat of the
handle). One which had been engraved was up for auction, and it would
appear that the various people bidding on it were of the opinnion that
something that neat had to be antique, and so they were bidding like
crazy. IIRC, the winning bid was something like 150% above Starrett's
list price. :-)

I now see one fairly often, because my wife bought one for me as
a birthday present -- properly engraved. IIRC, she ordered it from
Penn Tools.

O.K. I just went to the MSC site, did a search on "hammer", was
trying do decide which sub-category to hit when I noticed "Optical
Products" at the bottom of the search list, so I hit that, and found:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1652390&PMT4NO=46382014

as the only entry there. It is MSC's catalog number 00128553, and is
currently priced at $60.00 -- but you'll have to find someone to do the
engraving locally, since they don't offer that service. :-) It is on
page 1420 in the current Big Book.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On 20 Jul 2008 00:27:24 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "DoN.
Nichols" quickly quoth:

On 2008-07-19, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
Where in the HELL did you see that on the Widget Supply site, DoN?

Sorry -- I didn't see it there. I first saw it in Starrett's
catalog,

I thought you were joking.


then in an eBay auction (the hammers are sold either plain or
with the owner's (or recipient's) name engraved in the flat of the
handle). One which had been engraved was up for auction, and it would
appear that the various people bidding on it were of the opinnion that
something that neat had to be antique, and so they were bidding like
crazy. IIRC, the winning bid was something like 150% above Starrett's
list price. :-)

Yeah, eBayers can be awfully fun to watch. I don't play the high-bid
game at all, and for other kicks, I just won a set of language
immersion CDs for a buck. They cover Russian (Hi, Ig!), German (Hi,
Herr MULEr), and Chinese [(Hi, possible newest controller of the USA
(soon)!].


I now see one fairly often, because my wife bought one for me as
a birthday present -- properly engraved. IIRC, she ordered it from
Penn Tools.

O.K. I just went to the MSC site, did a search on "hammer", was
trying do decide which sub-category to hit when I noticed "Optical
Products" at the bottom of the search list, so I hit that, and found:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1652390&PMT4NO=46382014

Ohmybuddha! At last, a hammer that lets you see precisely what you're
going to smash before you do it!


as the only entry there. It is MSC's catalog number 00128553, and is
currently priced at $60.00 -- but you'll have to find someone to do the
engraving locally, since they don't offer that service. :-) It is on
page 1420 in the current Big Book.

Yeah, right.

--
Vidi, Vici, Veni
---

Larry Jaques wrote:

Now power tools, I don't buy power tools at sears. Especially wood working power tools.

I believe Searz still has the ARHA routers on sale there.
(Automatic-Random-Height-Adjuster, where the bits don't stay put,
sometimes making lighter cuts, sometimes actually flying out at you.)
Loverly!


I had one of those ARHA routers. I gave it to my brother when his Searz router burned up.
I'll stick to my Hitachi and Porter cable routers now.

Btw, it didn't last long with him before burning up. Seems it didn't like putting bevels
on oak railings.

Wes

On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 13:26:24 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Now power tools, I don't buy power tools at sears. Especially wood working power tools.

I believe Searz still has the ARHA routers on sale there.
(Automatic-Random-Height-Adjuster, where the bits don't stay put,
sometimes making lighter cuts, sometimes actually flying out at you.)
Loverly!


I had one of those ARHA routers. I gave it to my brother when his Searz router burned up.
I'll stick to my Hitachi and Porter cable routers now.

Btw, it didn't last long with him before burning up. Seems it didn't like putting bevels
on oak railings.

Maybe it was a 150 lb. "helping hand" guiding it. Y'think?

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Vidi, Vici, Veni
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On 20 Jul 2008 00:27:24 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:


O.K. I just went to the MSC site, did a search on "hammer", was
trying do decide which sub-category to hit when I noticed "Optical
Products" at the bottom of the search list, so I hit that, and found:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1652390&PMT4NO=46382014

as the only entry there. It is MSC's catalog number 00128553, and is
currently priced at $60.00 -- but you'll have to find someone to do the
engraving locally, since they don't offer that service. :-) It is on
page 1420 in the current Big Book.

Enjoy,
DoN.

Brilliant! A piece of glass mounted into a tool used to whack things.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
...
On 20 Jul 2008 00:27:24 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:


O.K. I just went to the MSC site, did a search on "hammer", was
trying do decide which sub-category to hit when I noticed "Optical
Products" at the bottom of the search list, so I hit that, and found:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1652390&PMT4NO=46382014

as the only entry there. It is MSC's catalog number 00128553, and is
currently priced at $60.00 -- but you'll have to find someone to do the
engraving locally, since they don't offer that service. :-) It is on
page 1420 in the current Big Book.

Enjoy,
DoN.

Brilliant! A piece of glass mounted into a tool used to whack things.

Joe

I have one of those things that's now about 60 years old. It has a rubber
washer to hold the lens. I haven't used mine a lot, but it's in perfect
condition.

You aren't supposed to use it with a center punch. You use it with a light
prick punch.

--
Ed Huntress

In article ,
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
...
On 20 Jul 2008 00:27:24 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:


O.K. I just went to the MSC site, did a search on "hammer", was
trying do decide which sub-category to hit when I noticed "Optical
Products" at the bottom of the search list, so I hit that, and found:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1652390&PMT4NO=46382014

as the only entry there. It is MSC's catalog number 00128553, and is
currently priced at $60.00 -- but you'll have to find someone to do the
engraving locally, since they don't offer that service. :-) It is on
page 1420 in the current Big Book.

Enjoy,
DoN.

Brilliant! A piece of glass mounted into a tool used to whack things.

Joe

I have one of those things that's now about 60 years old. It has a rubber
washer to hold the lens. I haven't used mine a lot, but it's in perfect
condition.

You aren't supposed to use it with a center punch. You use it with a light
prick punch.

I use mine with a center punch as well. No breakage so far, though I
don't think I've used it quite that long.

Joe Gwinn

On 2008-07-21, Joe wrote:
On 20 Jul 2008 00:27:24 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote:


O.K. I just went to the MSC site, did a search on "hammer", was
trying do decide which sub-category to hit when I noticed "Optical
Products" at the bottom of the search list, so I hit that, and found:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/NNSRIT?PMPXNO=1652390&PMT4NO=46382014

as the only entry there. It is MSC's catalog number 00128553, and is
currently priced at $60.00 -- but you'll have to find someone to do the
engraving locally, since they don't offer that service. :-) It is on
page 1420 in the current Big Book.

Brilliant! A piece of glass mounted into a tool used to whack things.

The piece of glass (magnifying lens) is mounted in a ring of
rubber so it is edge cushioned. And the tool is intended mostly for
hitting the end of a prick punch or a center punch, so it does not get
that mauch shock anyway.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Larry Jaques wrote:

I had one of those ARHA routers. I gave it to my brother when his Searz router burned up.
I'll stick to my Hitachi and Porter cable routers now.

Btw, it didn't last long with him before burning up. Seems it didn't like putting bevels
on oak railings.

Maybe it was a 150 lb. "helping hand" guiding it. Y'think?


Well, I don't know if he was ham handed with it but I could keep using my porter cable and
not have to explain to Mom what happened to the Searz one she bought for me.

Wes
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller