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Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal):
http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I just started working on it. The good news is that it seems to run and switch speeds, power feeds etc. The bad news is that it has considerable wear, as far as I could tell. Also what I thought was a on/off/brake lever, does not seem to switch anything so the lathe is on when the speed selector is on. The speed selector has five positions, REV2, REV1, OFF, FWD1, FWD2. I will post a separate question about it. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Ignoramus24584 wrote:
Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I just started working on it. The good news is that it seems to run and switch speeds, power feeds etc. The bad news is that it has considerable wear, as far as I could tell. Also what I thought was a on/off/brake lever, does not seem to switch anything so the lathe is on when the speed selector is on. The speed selector has five positions, REV2, REV1, OFF, FWD1, FWD2. I will post a separate question about it. Quite impressive! You need to quantify the wear, to see if it can still do easy jobs, or if it must be rebuilt pretty much immediately. I can give lots of advice in how to turn it into a 2-year project, if you are looking for such self-abuse, as I did that on my 15" Sheldon lathe. Jon |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:07:45 -0500, Ignoramus24584
wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I see one photo with the key in the chuck. Now is a real good time to get in the habit of *NEVER* *EVER* leaving the key in the chuck -- or allowing anyone in your shop who would do that. |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:07:45 -0500, Ignoramus24584
wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I just started working on it. The good news is that it seems to run and switch speeds, power feeds etc. The bad news is that it has considerable wear, as far as I could tell. Also what I thought was a on/off/brake lever, does not seem to switch anything so the lathe is on when the speed selector is on. The speed selector has five positions, REV2, REV1, OFF, FWD1, FWD2. I will post a separate question about it. Pretty nice even if it has some wear. You moved it on a caster skid? How did you get it onto the skid. ED |
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On 2008-07-13, ED wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:07:45 -0500, Ignoramus24584 wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I just started working on it. The good news is that it seems to run and switch speeds, power feeds etc. The bad news is that it has considerable wear, as far as I could tell. Also what I thought was a on/off/brake lever, does not seem to switch anything so the lathe is on when the speed selector is on. The speed selector has five positions, REV2, REV1, OFF, FWD1, FWD2. I will post a separate question about it. Pretty nice even if it has some wear. You moved it on a caster skid? How did you get it onto the skid. Lifted one side, put on 2x4s, lifted another, put on 2x4, then went back and lifted the first side some more, added 2x4s, etc until the cart could be slid underneath. Then I realized a "gaffe": though I made the cart shorter than the lathe, so that I could be able to slide it underneath, I then added a eyebolt to it that made it impossible to slide the cart in. So I had to rearrange 2x4s a little. For actual leverage, I used a big pry bar and also a Johnson bar (essentially a giant pry bar on wheels). Johnson bar looks like this: http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/114/.../2750t5p1l.gif Mine seems to be a McMaster item 2750T3, though there is no way of telling by now, it is very old. It was actually easy and the seller was slightly surprised. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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On 2008-07-13, Don Foreman wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:07:45 -0500, Ignoramus24584 wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I see one photo with the key in the chuck. Now is a real good time to get in the habit of *NEVER* *EVER* leaving the key in the chuck -- or allowing anyone in your shop who would do that. Taken out instantly after the picture was snapped. Good point. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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On 2008-07-13, Jon Elson wrote:
Ignoramus24584 wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I just started working on it. The good news is that it seems to run and switch speeds, power feeds etc. The bad news is that it has considerable wear, as far as I could tell. Also what I thought was a on/off/brake lever, does not seem to switch anything so the lathe is on when the speed selector is on. The speed selector has five positions, REV2, REV1, OFF, FWD1, FWD2. I will post a separate question about it. Quite impressive! You need to quantify the wear, to see if it can still do easy jobs, or if it must be rebuilt pretty much immediately. I can give lots of advice in how to turn it into a 2-year project, if you are looking for such self-abuse, as I did that on my 15" Sheldon lathe. I will try to cut a round rod on it soon. I have a foot long 1.5" or so steel rod. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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Ignoramus24584 wrote:
For actual leverage, I used a big pry bar and also a Johnson bar (essentially a giant pry bar on wheels). Johnson bar looks like this: http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/114/.../2750t5p1l.gif Mine seems to be a McMaster item 2750T3, though there is no way of telling by now, it is very old. Every man wants to swing a 'big johnson' Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:54:38 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don
Foreman quickly quoth: On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:07:45 -0500, Ignoramus24584 wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Egad. Think what would have happened if he'd had to stop quickly or do any evasive actions! Note 1 to Ig: I'd tie down the machine better next time. Your tiedown would handily handle grandma's driving, but not any kind or emergency action or even a very minor accident, such as climbing a curb at 10+ mph. At minimum, your roller skate would be out from under a fallen/broken lathe. I always loop the side tiedowns around the body to keep it from shifting from side to side, and I put at least one on each end to keep it from shifting front to rear. Your tiedown method would keep it from falling out of the trailer if it were held upside down, but probably wouldn't keep it from shifting if Mr. Murphy showed up. Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I see one photo with the key in the chuck. Now is a real good time to get in the habit of *NEVER* *EVER* leaving the key in the chuck -- or allowing anyone in your shop who would do that. Excellent idea, Don. I plopped a rare earth magnet onto the front of my drill head and the chuck stays stuck to that unless I'm changing bits. It's easy to mount/dismount and handy enough to remember to put back up there. I believe I got the idea from someone else here on Wreck.Metalheads. (Either here or the Wreck.) Note 2 to Ig: That welding bumper sticker is funny, but if you ever get into an accident (your fault or not) the other guy's attorney might eat you for lunch because of it. In a jury trial, that sticker could easily tip the case against you. ---------------------------------- VIRTUE...is its own punishment ================================== |
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:54:38 -0500, Don Foreman
wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:07:45 -0500, Ignoramus24584 wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I see one photo with the key in the chuck. Now is a real good time to get in the habit of *NEVER* *EVER* leaving the key in the chuck -- or allowing anyone in your shop who would do that. Indeed!! Gunner, who has an odd sized large sized dent in the wall opposite the Clausing 15x52 AND a smaller but equally odd sized dent in the wall opposite the HLV-H......both of which are older than 5 yrs... |
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On 2008-07-13, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:54:38 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don Foreman quickly quoth: On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:07:45 -0500, Ignoramus24584 wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Egad. Think what would have happened if he'd had to stop quickly or do any evasive actions! Note 1 to Ig: I'd tie down the machine better next time. Your tiedown would handily handle grandma's driving, but not any kind or emergency action or even a very minor accident, such as climbing a curb at 10+ mph. At minimum, your roller skate would be out from under a I do drive like a grand-grandma when I move such equipment. fallen/broken lathe. I always loop the side tiedowns around the body to keep it from shifting from side to side, and I put at least one on each end to keep it from shifting front to rear. Your tiedown method would keep it from falling out of the trailer if it were held upside down, but probably wouldn't keep it from shifting if Mr. Murphy showed up. Well, the tiedowns, the way I used them, would fully prevent movement. http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...rting-2764.jpg Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ I see one photo with the key in the chuck. Now is a real good time to get in the habit of *NEVER* *EVER* leaving the key in the chuck -- or allowing anyone in your shop who would do that. Excellent idea, Don. I plopped a rare earth magnet onto the front of my drill head and the chuck stays stuck to that unless I'm changing bits. It's easy to mount/dismount and handy enough to remember to put back up there. I believe I got the idea from someone else here on Wreck.Metalheads. (Either here or the Wreck.) Note 2 to Ig: That welding bumper sticker is funny, but if you ever get into an accident (your fault or not) the other guy's attorney might eat you for lunch because of it. In a jury trial, that sticker could easily tip the case against you. That would not be merely an accident, but an accident caused by defects in my trailer. In this case the sticker would not make a big difference. -- Due to extreme spam originating from Google Groups, and their inattention to spammers, I and many others block all articles originating from Google Groups. If you want your postings to be seen by more readers you will need to find a different means of posting on Usenet. http://improve-usenet.org/ |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:25:47 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus13075 quickly quoth: On 2008-07-13, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:54:38 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don Foreman quickly quoth: On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:07:45 -0500, Ignoramus24584 wrote: Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Egad. Think what would have happened if he'd had to stop quickly or do any evasive actions! Note 1 to Ig: I'd tie down the machine better next time. Your tiedown would handily handle grandma's driving, but not any kind or emergency action or even a very minor accident, such as climbing a curb at 10+ mph. At minimum, your roller skate would be out from under a I do drive like a grand-grandma when I move such equipment. Right, but some idiot in front of you might stop just when you're halfway over the railroad tracks, or someone pulls out in front of you, etc. fallen/broken lathe. I always loop the side tiedowns around the body to keep it from shifting from side to side, and I put at least one on each end to keep it from shifting front to rear. Your tiedown method would keep it from falling out of the trailer if it were held upside down, but probably wouldn't keep it from shifting if Mr. Murphy showed up. Well, the tiedowns, the way I used them, would fully prevent movement. I guess well have to agree to disagree there. You had nothing on the lower 80% of the machine and a even a slow hit from a car on the side would have rolled that thing over within the confines of the tiedowns, with or without the skateboard under it, IMO. YMMV. Note 2 to Ig: That welding bumper sticker is funny, but if you ever get into an accident (your fault or not) the other guy's attorney might eat you for lunch because of it. In a jury trial, that sticker could easily tip the case against you. That would not be merely an accident, but an accident caused by defects in my trailer. In this case the sticker would not make a big difference. Whatever you say, Ig. I just don't put things like that on my vehicles during this assinine and litigous era we live in. Moronic judges allow cases into court which shouldn't be allowed and brainless juries give humongous awards to people absolutely not fitting to receive them. Why tempt fate, eh? sigh -- "Giving every man a vote has no more made men wise and free than Christianity has made them good." --H. L. Mencken --- |
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Wes wrote: Ignoramus24584 wrote: For actual leverage, I used a big pry bar and also a Johnson bar (essentially a giant pry bar on wheels). Johnson bar looks like this: http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/114/.../2750t5p1l.gif Mine seems to be a McMaster item 2750T3, though there is no way of telling by now, it is very old. Every man wants to swing a 'big johnson' Or a big Johnston. http://mielofon.com/actress/kristen_johnston/10.shtml -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. |
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Ignoramus24584 wrote:
Pictures of how I moved it (was not a big deal): http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...-Transporting/ Pictures of initial cleanup and reassembly: http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Clau...nd-Reassembly/ Good to see that it's home safe. Getting the machine home and in place without any broken thumbs or cast iron is half the job. I just started working on it. The good news is that it seems to run and switch speeds, power feeds etc. The bad news is that it has considerable wear, as far as I could tell. Also what I thought was a on/off/brake lever, does not seem to switch anything so the lathe is on when the speed selector is on. The speed selector has five positions, REV2, REV1, OFF, FWD1, FWD2. I will post a separate question about it. You built a tig welder from scratch. You can certainly figure out how to turn it on (: |
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On 2008-07-13, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 22:54:38 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Don Foreman quickly quoth: [ ... ] I see one photo with the key in the chuck. Now is a real good time to get in the habit of *NEVER* *EVER* leaving the key in the chuck -- or allowing anyone in your shop who would do that. Excellent idea, Don. I plopped a rare earth magnet onto the front of my drill head and the chuck stays stuck to that unless I'm changing bits. It's easy to mount/dismount and handy enough to remember to put back up there. I believe I got the idea from someone else here on Wreck.Metalheads. (Either here or the Wreck.) Hmm ... a magnet will cause it to pick up chips if it ever gets near the results of your drilling. I have my key on a device related to the belt-hung spring key chains. There is a loose strap around the key behind the crown gear, and there is a spring around the pilot pin to push the key out as soon as you let go of it. That is still on the drill press -- even though I normally use a Jacobs copy of the Albrecht keyless chucks so there is nothing to produce problems anyway. :-) Note 2 to Ig: That welding bumper sticker is funny, but if you ever get into an accident (your fault or not) the other guy's attorney might eat you for lunch because of it. In a jury trial, that sticker could easily tip the case against you. Especially if it is caused by a failure of a weld. Good Luck, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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