Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).

http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

As about a dozen people mentioned the last time you posted this, get
them as spare parts from Harbor Freight and make some minor mods to get
them to fit.

Searcher7 wrote:
Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).

http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On Jul 12, 4:01*pm, RoyJ wrote:
As about a dozen people mentioned the last time you posted this, get
them as spare parts from Harbor Freight and make some minor mods to get
them to fit.



Searcher7 wrote:
Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).

http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Now if I could have gotten what I needed frm Harbor Frieght, then
obviously I would not be posting here about it.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

But as usual, you omit pertinent details: Like exactly what parts you
need and what options you might have investigated.

But from what I see, you could order ALL the table parts for almost any
of the HF units and bolt them to your frame. It's when you insist on
trying to match something that you run into trouble.

If you want, I use a machine tool repair/rebuilder that would be glad to
machine up anything you want. Plan on about $95 an hour for their services.


Searcher7 wrote:
On Jul 12, 4:01 pm, RoyJ wrote:
As about a dozen people mentioned the last time you posted this, get
them as spare parts from Harbor Freight and make some minor mods to get
them to fit.



Searcher7 wrote:
Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).
http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/
Thanks a lot.
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Now if I could have gotten what I needed frm Harbor Frieght, then
obviously I would not be posting here about it.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

The question was simple. I asked if anyone knew where I could get
trunnions made for a
bandsaw table...

I don't know whether or not the proper size trunnions can be machined
from existing ones or not.

I never received that catalog from Harbor Freight, or responses to my
e-mails. Calling them is not an option because I'm at work during
their business hours and there are no HarborFreight stores anywhere
near me.

And I couldn't find any what I was looking for at the site. I
donwloaded the only manual there for a 14" bandsaw, but until I can
speak with someone at the company, I cannot go any further.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On Jul 12, 7:29*pm, RoyJ wrote:
But as usual, you omit pertinent details: Like exactly what parts you
need and what options you might have investigated.

But from what I see, you could order ALL the table parts for almost any
of the HF units and bolt them to your frame. It's when you insist on
trying to match something that you run into trouble.

If you want, I use a machine tool repair/rebuilder that would be glad to
machine up anything you want. Plan on about $95 an hour for their services.



Searcher7 wrote:
On Jul 12, 4:01 pm, RoyJ wrote:
As about a dozen people mentioned the last time you posted this, get
them as spare parts from Harbor Freight and make some minor mods to get
them to fit.

Searcher7 wrote:
Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).
http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/
Thanks a lot.
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Now if I could have gotten what I needed frm Harbor Frieght, then
obviously I would not be posting here about it.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On Jul 13, 9:19 am, Searcher7 wrote:
The question was simple. I asked if anyone knew where I could get
trunnions made for a
bandsaw table...

Darren Harris
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- Show quoted text -

Darren,
I didn't follow previous thread, so this may be a repeat.

http://www.emachineshop.com/
Gives you the CAD software, and will return parts, at (what I have
heard) is a reasonable price.

I don't see the lower blade guide in your pictures, do you need that
too?

If you need somebody to make the drawings, (so parts can be
fabricated), then they will need the entire machine, so they can align
the blade with the table.

I hope this is not a sentimental tool.

Dave

Searcher7 wrote:

Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).

I think it is time that you buy a used bridgeport and a boring head.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Wes wrote:


I think it is time that you buy a used bridgeport and a boring head.


Or a coping saw, file, and a copy of Persig's "Zen and the Art of
Motorcycle Maintenance"

Kevin Gallimore


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On Jul 13, 12:42*pm, Mechanical Magic
wrote:
On Jul 13, 9:19 am, Searcher7 wrote:

The question was simple. I asked if anyone knew where I could get
trunnions made for a
bandsaw table...

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Darren,
I didn't follow previous thread, so this may be a repeat.

http://www.emachineshop.com/
Gives you the CAD software, and will return parts, at (what I have
heard) is a reasonable price.

Thanks, I'll have to look into this.

I don't see the lower blade guide in your pictures, do you need that
too?

Oh, oh. In all the previous posts in multiple threads on this no one
mentioned anything about a lower blade guide. I checked "Bandsaw
Handbook" and it also doesn't mention this. But I found one pic of
what looks like what you are referring to *below* the table.

The bottom line is that if this is another part I have to try to find,
that would complicate things and this tool is that much closer to the
garbage.

If you need somebody to make the drawings, (so parts can be
fabricated), then they will need the entire machine, so they can align
the blade with the table.

I hope this is not a sentimental tool.

No. I actually bought it on recommendations from here when it and a
drill press popped up on Craigslist.(See: "Advice: Drill Press and
Band Saw pick-up")

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On Jul 13, 2:34*pm, Wes wrote:
Searcher7 wrote:
Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).

I think it is time that you buy a used bridgeport and a boring head.

Well, if I had "used Bridgeport" money and space, as well as tolerant
neighbors... :-)

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On Jul 13, 6:05*pm, axolotl wrote:
Wes wrote:

I think it is time that you buy a used bridgeport and a boring head.

Or a coping saw, file, and a copy of Persig's "Zen and the Art of
Motorcycle Maintenance"


?!?

Ok, I have two out of three...

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Searcher7 wrote:
Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).

http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Try contacting Black&Decker thru this link to locate a service center
close to you.
http://www.dewaltservicenet.com/

Then request a parts catalog for a Delta 14" bandsaw. The pieces you
have in the photos are very similiar to the Delta's.

The trunions and many other parts are still supported. You may even be
able to order a table. More than likely it will be off. The trunions are
made of pot metal and are easy to modify.

Let the guy behind the counter know what your trying to do or you may
get parts of no use to you.


Good Hunting

Jim Vrzal
Holiday,Fl.

As usual, you neglected to give information that might help someone give
you a hand. Shrug.

Searcher7 wrote:
The question was simple. I asked if anyone knew where I could get
trunnions made for a
bandsaw table...

I don't know whether or not the proper size trunnions can be machined
from existing ones or not.

I never received that catalog from Harbor Freight, or responses to my
e-mails. Calling them is not an option because I'm at work during
their business hours and there are no HarborFreight stores anywhere
near me.

And I couldn't find any what I was looking for at the site. I
donwloaded the only manual there for a 14" bandsaw, but until I can
speak with someone at the company, I cannot go any further.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On Jul 12, 7:29 pm, RoyJ wrote:
But as usual, you omit pertinent details: Like exactly what parts you
need and what options you might have investigated.

But from what I see, you could order ALL the table parts for almost any
of the HF units and bolt them to your frame. It's when you insist on
trying to match something that you run into trouble.

If you want, I use a machine tool repair/rebuilder that would be glad to
machine up anything you want. Plan on about $95 an hour for their services.



Searcher7 wrote:
On Jul 12, 4:01 pm, RoyJ wrote:
As about a dozen people mentioned the last time you posted this, get
them as spare parts from Harbor Freight and make some minor mods to get
them to fit.
Searcher7 wrote:
Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).
http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/
Thanks a lot.
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Now if I could have gotten what I needed frm Harbor Frieght, then
obviously I would not be posting here about it.
Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.- Hide quoted text -
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:28:06 -0700, Searcher7 wrote:
On Jul 13, 12:42Â*pm, Mechanical Magic ... wrote:
On Jul 13, 9:19 am, Searcher7 ... wrote:

... I asked if anyone knew where I could get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table...
....

See comment below re table.

http://www.emachineshop.com/
Gives you the CAD software, and will return parts, at (what I have
heard) is a reasonable price.
....
I don't see the lower blade guide in your pictures, do you need that
too?

Oh, oh. In all the previous posts in multiple threads on this no one
mentioned anything about a lower blade guide. I checked "Bandsaw
Handbook" and it also doesn't mention this. But I found one pic of what
looks like what you are referring to *below* the table.

The bottom line is that if this is another part I have to try to find,
that would complicate things and this tool is that much closer to the
garbage.
....

On my cheap HF wood-cutting bandsaw, the upper and lower blade
guides each have two movable hard-rubber blocks that straddle the
blade, and a roller bearing (about the same size as a rollerblade
bearing) at the back of the blade, perpendicular to the blade such
that a side surface of the outer ring of the bearing prevents the
blade from moving back, as shown in picture at
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyId=904 or diagram near
middle of http://www.woodworkinghistory.com/bandsaw_syllabus.htm

This is different from the blade guides on my cheap HF metal-cutting band-
saw, which has 3 bearings per guide, one on each side of and perpendicular
to the blade, and one parallel to blade and behind it so that the back of
the blade presses against its outer surface, as in picture at
http://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx...=20342&pcs=fam

If you buy a $10 package of 8 or 16 rollerblade bearings and mounting
spacers etc. you probably can fix up some workable guides.

Re trunnions and table: I occasionally tilt the table on my
wood-cutting bandsaw, but more than 95% of the time I use it
with the table flat. If you can't find pre-made trunnions for
your bandsaw, it probably isn't worthwhile to make them; instead,
just bolt on a fixed-position table (eg, made from a Formica-
covered sink cutout, or a few square feet of thick aluminum).
Then spend some time fixing up good rip and cross-cut guides,
which will be far more important than getting the table to tilt.

-jiw

On Jul 13, 7:07*pm, Mawdeeb wrote:
Searcher7wrote:
Can anyone here make or know where I can get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table made?(I'll of course need to get a table also).

http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Try contacting Black&Decker thru this link to locate a service center
close to you.http://www.dewaltservicenet.com/

Then request a parts catalog for a Delta 14" bandsaw. The pieces you
have in the photos are very similiar to the Delta's.

The trunions and many other parts are still supported. You may even be
able to order a table. More than likely it will be off. The trunions are
made of pot metal and are easy to modify.

Let the guy behind the counter know what your trying to do or you may
get parts of no use to you.

Good Hunting

Jim Vrzal
Holiday,Fl.

Thanks.

They do not have a catalog. Everything is done on the web(according to
the sale rep I spoke with). I located a service center, but since
today is one of those rare(annual) days that I don't have to work on a
weekday, I'd have to find out what I'd need and get there before
closing(5pm).

In other words, I'll have to find out what I'd need and order the
parts if they do mail order.

Thanks again.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On Jul 13, 9:29*pm, James Waldby wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:28:06 -0700,Searcher7wrote:
On Jul 13, 12:42*pm, Mechanical Magic ... wrote:
On Jul 13, 9:19 am,Searcher7... wrote:

... I asked if anyone knew where I could get trunnions made for a
bandsaw table...

...

See comment below re table.

http://www.emachineshop.com/
Gives you the CAD software, and will return parts, at (what I have
heard) is a reasonable price.
...
I don't see the lower blade guide in your pictures, do you need that
too?

Oh, oh. In all the previous posts in multiple threads on this no one
mentioned anything about a lower blade guide. I checked "Bandsaw
Handbook" and it also doesn't mention this. But I found one pic of what
looks like what you are referring to *below* the table.

The bottom line is that if this is another part I have to try to find,
that would complicate things and this tool is that much closer to the
garbage.

...

On my cheap HF wood-cutting bandsaw, the upper and lower blade
guides each have two movable hard-rubber blocks that straddle the
blade, and a roller bearing (about the same size as a rollerblade
bearing) at the back of the blade, perpendicular to the blade such
that a side surface of the outer ring of the bearing prevents the
blade from moving back, as shown in picture athttp://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyId=904or diagram near
middle ofhttp://www.woodworkinghistory.com/bandsaw_syllabus.htm

This is different from the blade guides on my cheap HF metal-cutting band-
saw, which has 3 bearings per guide, one on each side of and perpendicular
to the blade, and one parallel to blade and behind it so that the back of
the blade presses against its outer surface, as in picture athttp://www.woodcraft.com/family.aspx?FamilyID=2028&cs=20342&pcs=fam

If you buy a $10 package of 8 or 16 rollerblade bearings and mounting
spacers etc. you probably can fix up some workable guides.

Re trunnions and table: *I occasionally tilt the table on my
wood-cutting bandsaw, but more than 95% of the time I use it
with the table flat. *If you can't find pre-made trunnions for
your bandsaw, it probably isn't worthwhile to make them; instead,
just bolt on a fixed-position table (eg, made from a Formica-
covered sink cutout, or a few square feet of thick aluminum).
Then spend some time fixing up good rip and cross-cut guides,
which will be far more important than getting the table to tilt.

-jiw

Thanks.

Ok, I'll have to re-read your post a few times so I can get everthing
right.

But I took more pics of the bandsaw after opening it up, and it looks
as though I'm definitely going to have to replace what I believe are
cast aluminum parts. I dropped the blade guide and you can see what
happended in the pic.

http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On Jul 14, 9:50 am, Searcher7 wrote:
But I took more pics of the bandsaw after opening it up, and it looks
as though I'm definitely going to have to replace what I believe are
cast aluminum parts. I dropped the blade guide and you can see what
happended in the pic.

Nowhere in this thread have you mentioned the brand name on this saw.
If you don't know, you have almost no chance of finding parts that
will fit.

So, lets assume it is a Grizzly G0580, (A BAD assumption, but they
have a picture.)

http://www.grizzly.com/images/partslists/g0580_pl.pdf

and go thru the parts you need (leaving out stuff you can get at a
hardware store)

Motor, key, pulley, motor mount, belt
Upper guide support (You can't weld potmetal, and epoxy isn't going to
work)
Blade guide support, lower guide support, blade guide (2), thumbscrew,
upper spacing sleeve, bearing, flange screw
Table, table insert, trunnion (2) scale, trunnion clamp shoe, knob
And don't forget the stand.

This isn't a band saw, it's a mistake.
Let it go.

Dave

On Jul 14, 2:44*pm, Mechanical Magic
wrote:
On Jul 14, 9:50 am, Searcher7 wrote:

But I took more pics of the bandsaw after opening it up, and it looks
as though I'm definitely going to have to replace what I believe are
cast aluminum parts. I dropped the blade guide and you can see what
happended in the pic.

Nowhere in this thread have you mentioned the brand name on this saw.
If you don't know, you have almost no chance of finding parts that
will fit.

So, lets assume it is a Grizzly G0580, (A BAD assumption, but they
have a picture.)

http://www.grizzly.com/images/partslists/g0580_pl.pdf

and go thru the parts you need (leaving out stuff you can get at a
hardware store)

Motor, key, pulley, motor mount, belt
Upper guide support (You can't weld potmetal, and epoxy isn't going to
work)
Blade guide support, lower guide support, blade guide (2), thumbscrew,
upper spacing sleeve, bearing, flange screw
Table, table insert, trunnion (2) scale, trunnion clamp shoe, knob
And don't forget the stand.

This isn't a band saw, it's a mistake.
Let it go.

Dave

Give up? Never! :-)

It's a good thing I don't need everything you mentioned.

The company(KTF) that made this bandsaw no longer exists. But I'm told
this is a Chinese import.

The bandsaw, like the drill press I got with it, had never been used,
but it spent time outdoors.

I'll take James' advice and made a (non-tilting)table

My biggest problem is that even though the size of every component I
have can be measured, I'm not going to get that info from any place
I'd be able to buy the replacements parts so I can verify. So it'll be
a crap shoot.

Anyway, I need to replace the cheaply made upper and lower guide
assemblys/blocks/holders. (If I can find the correct size).

I measured the (rusted)blade at about 92".

And as for a motor, I've been getting conflicting advice and this has
me confused. Of the two motors I was watching, I have yet to figure
out why they wouldn't work for me:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=250266499391
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=260261405648

But I can only go by what I already have:
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/l...g?t=1216087177

So I'll just have to keep looking.

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Darren,

Don't buy a motor until the saw is repaired.

Make a detailed drawing of your parts and send it to me.
I'll compare to my 14" Delta, to see if it's a direct knockoff.

Dave

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:27:39 -0700, Mechanical Magic wrote:

Darren,

Don't buy a motor until the saw is repaired.

Make a detailed drawing of your parts and send it to me. I'll compare to
my 14" Delta, to see if it's a direct knockoff.

Darren,
If you make such a drawing I could compare it also, to my HF #32208
bandsaw. Also see parts diagrams and list on pages 20-25 in 2nd URL.
http://ww4.harborfreight.com/zcom/pr...emNumber=32208
http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals...2999/32206.PDF
Incidentally, HF customer service hours are 9-4 PST, which means
they are available until 7pm EST for technical questions about parts.
Of course the order line is open all the time if you just need prices
on parts.

Incidentally, HF has a benchtop wood-cutting bandsaw for $129.99 that
would do for small projects. 62" blade rather than 93", 9"x3.6"
throat rather than 14"x6", rated 1/3 HP rather than 1.
http://ww4.harborfreight.com/zcom/pr...emNumber=96980

If you plan to cut any metal, get a metal-cutting bandsaw instead - eg
http://ww4.harborfreight.com/zcom/pr...emNumber=93762
- sometimes on sale for somewhat less - rather than attempting to do
it with a wood-cutting bandsaw.
-jiw

On Jul 15, 12:27*pm, Mechanical Magic
wrote:
Darren,

Don't buy a motor until the saw is repaired.

Make a detailed drawing of your parts and send it to me.
I'll compare to my 14" Delta, to see if it's a direct knockoff.

Dave

I actually would like to get a motor anyway for my drill press.

Nevertheless, I don't know what parts youneed to see, but I took more
pics and posted them with some measurements:
http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

On Jul 15, 3:18*pm, James Waldby wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:27:39 -0700, Mechanical Magic wrote:
Darren,

Don't buy a motor until the saw is repaired.

Make a detailed drawing of your parts and send it to me. I'll compare to
my 14" Delta, to see if it's a direct knockoff.

Darren,
If you make such a drawing I could compare it also, to my HF #32208
bandsaw. *Also see parts diagrams and list on pages 20-25 in 2nd URL.http://ww4.harborfreight.com/zcom/pr...2999/32206.PDF
Incidentally, HF customer service hours are 9-4 PST, which means
they are available until 7pm EST for technical questions about parts.
Of course the order line is open all the time if you just need prices
on parts.

Incidentally, HF has a benchtop wood-cutting bandsaw for $129.99 that
would do for small projects. *62" blade rather than 93", 9"x3.6"
throat rather than 14"x6", rated 1/3 HP rather than 1.http://ww4.harborfreight.com/zcom/pr...mpid=100&itemN...

If you plan to cut any metal, get a metal-cutting bandsaw instead - eghttp://ww4.harborfreight.com/zcom/product/Product.do?compid=100&itemN...
- sometimes on sale for somewhat less - rather than attempting to do
it with a wood-cutting bandsaw.
-jiw

HarborFreight is not open during the hours I can call, and there are
no locations near me, so I'll have to come up with a different source
for parts.

Here are some parts I took measurements of:
http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/l...slander/Tools/

Thanks.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.