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The spin has started...as has the website redesign...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

http://www.vpc.org/

fascinating...!

From the VPC just moments ago....

Statement of VPC on Supreme Court Ruling in District of Columbia v.
Heller Overturning DC Handgun Ban

Ruling Should Allow Ban on Semiautomatic Handguns to Stand

Statement of Violence Policy Center on Supreme Court Ruling in
District of Columbia v. Heller Overturning DC Handgun Ban

Supreme Court Ruling Overturning DC Handgun Ban Should Allow Ban on
Semiautomatic Handguns to Stand

Washington, DC--Following today’s 5-4 Supreme Court opinion authored
by 2007 Sport Shooting Ambassador Award winner Antonin Scalia (see
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-s..._b_109367.html
for more info) overturning Washington, DC’s handgun ban, but
apparently allowing for the retention of the law’s ban on most
semiautomatic weapons, including semiautomatic handguns (see
background information after statement), Violence Policy Center (VPC)
Legislative Director Kristen Rand states:

“Today’s opinion turns legal logic and common sense on its head. As
measured in gun death and injury, handguns are our nation’s most
lethal category of firearm: accounting for the vast majority of the
30,000 Americans who die from guns each year. Handguns are our
nation’s leading murder and suicide tool. Yet the majority opinion
offers the greatest offender the strongest legal protection. It’s
analogous to the Court carving out special constitutional protection
for child pornography in a First Amendment case.

“In its ruling, the Court has ignored our nation’s history of mass
shootings, assassinations, and unparalleled gun violence. It has
instead accepted an abstract academic argument with dangerous
real-world results for residents of the District of Columbia.
Thankfully, because the plaintiff in Heller did not challenge the
District's ban on "machine guns," Washington, DC’s ban on most
semiautomatic weapons, including semiauto handguns, should be
unaffected.”

The ruling comes one day after a Kentucky factory worker killed five
co-workers with a handgun before taking his own life. For a copy of
the amicus brief submitted by the VPC in the case, please see
http://www.vpc.org/hellerbrief.pdf.

Background Information

The Court’s ruling today does not appear to affect the District’s ban
on “machine guns,” which under DC law includes any gun “which shoots,
is designed to shoot, or can be readily converted or restored to shoot
semiautomatically, more than 12 shots without manual reloading.” This
definition would include virtually all semiautomatic handguns. As a
result, the District’s ban can remain in force for those types of
handguns, commonly known as pistols. In essence, the Court’s ruling
for the most part will only affect revolvers and derringers.
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Then one assumes then that all those police officers carry" Machine
Gun" Glocks?

The confusion is glorious!
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Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be doing
an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He should
just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some appropriate choice
of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could easily treble gun
violence.

30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US lives
over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself.


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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:27 +0000, NoOne@Home wrote:

Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be
doing an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He
should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some
appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could
easily treble gun violence.

30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US
lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself.


Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/
traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered
between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995."

We should outlaw cars.

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Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/
traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered
between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995."

We should outlaw cars.

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I've almost died from a broken heart a number of times...we should ban women!


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Tom Gardner wrote:

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Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/
traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered
between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995."

We should outlaw cars.


I've almost died from a broken heart a number of times...we should ban women!



Wouldn't that put a HUGE dent in your lesbian lifestyle? ;-)


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Tom Gardner wrote:

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Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/
traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered
between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995."

We should outlaw cars.


I've almost died from a broken heart a number of times...we should ban women!



Wouldn't that put a HUGE dent in your lesbian lifestyle? ;-)


Maybe I should start thinking MEN!!!


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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:27 +0000, NoOne@Home wrote:

Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be
doing an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He
should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some
appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could
easily treble gun violence.

30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US
lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself.


Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/
traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered
between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995."

We should outlaw cars.


Ban doctors, they killed 289,000 americans in 2006 trough abortion.

Binladen should just give out scholarships to medical students then he would
have some real WMDs in the form of MDs.

Best Regards
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:27 +0000, NoOne@Home wrote:


Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be
doing an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He
should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some
appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could
easily treble gun violence.

30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US
lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself.


Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/
traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered
between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995."

We should outlaw cars.



Ban doctors, they killed 289,000 americans in 2006 trough abortion.


They weren't americans yet, got to be born in USA to be one. Birth
usually happens 8-9 months after conception, 9 being the norm. Those
289,000 were all aliens...

Binladen should just give out scholarships to medical students then he would
have some real WMDs in the form of MDs.

Best Regards
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Ban doctors, they killed 289,000 americans in 2006 trough abortion.


They weren't americans yet, got to be born in USA to be one. Birth
usually happens 8-9 months after conception, 9 being the norm. Those
289,000 were all aliens...


So aliens can be killed? Gee I see a profit making oppertunity, web cams attached to
rifles arrayed on the border, cross there, bang, and a reward for stopping another
invader. Shooter and website get an equal cut of reward.

Whole new concept of the dead mans line.

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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:27 +0000, NoOne@Home wrote:

Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be
doing an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He
should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some
appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could
easily treble gun violence.

30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US
lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself.


Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/
traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered
between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995."

Maybe BinLaden should get his mates in Saudi Arabia to reduce the price of
fuel to Americans and get more US made cars on the road. That should treble
the road toll.

He could also lobby that driving on the wrong side of the road is a
fundamental right ensconced in the constitution.

God only knows why he lives in a cave when his best bet at destroying the US
is by getting them to do it themselves.

He could pay an airline to take the FAA to task over forced aircraft
maintenance - totally against the libertarian ideals of the founding
fathers - whoever heard of the Mayflower having a 10,000 hour service?





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God only knows why he lives in a cave when his best bet at destroying
the US is by getting them to do it themselves.


I wonder - how much might he have contributed to the Obama Campaign?

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"NoOne@Home" wrote in
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God only knows why he lives in a cave when his best bet at destroying
the US is by getting them to do it themselves.


I wonder - how much might he have contributed to the Obama Campaign?

Dont worry your pretty little redneck head about that. Hillary will be
President once all the hand gun owning have finished filling Obama with
lead.


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Gunner wrote:

The spin has started...as has the website redesign...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

http://www.vpc.org/

fascinating...!


Heck, we will have them trying to get firearms rights restored for murderers and rapists
taking an absolute rights tact to force the courts to take a more narrow view that they
can further exploit. Fish slime is like stickum compared to leftist lawyers.

I wonder if Dick Anthony Heller will live long enough to have his own PDW in DC?

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