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The spin has started...as has the website redesign...
http://www.bradycampaign.org/ http://www.vpc.org/ fascinating...! From the VPC just moments ago.... Statement of VPC on Supreme Court Ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller Overturning DC Handgun Ban Ruling Should Allow Ban on Semiautomatic Handguns to Stand Statement of Violence Policy Center on Supreme Court Ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller Overturning DC Handgun Ban Supreme Court Ruling Overturning DC Handgun Ban Should Allow Ban on Semiautomatic Handguns to Stand Washington, DC--Following today’s 5-4 Supreme Court opinion authored by 2007 Sport Shooting Ambassador Award winner Antonin Scalia (see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-s..._b_109367.html for more info) overturning Washington, DC’s handgun ban, but apparently allowing for the retention of the law’s ban on most semiautomatic weapons, including semiautomatic handguns (see background information after statement), Violence Policy Center (VPC) Legislative Director Kristen Rand states: “Today’s opinion turns legal logic and common sense on its head. As measured in gun death and injury, handguns are our nation’s most lethal category of firearm: accounting for the vast majority of the 30,000 Americans who die from guns each year. Handguns are our nation’s leading murder and suicide tool. Yet the majority opinion offers the greatest offender the strongest legal protection. It’s analogous to the Court carving out special constitutional protection for child pornography in a First Amendment case. “In its ruling, the Court has ignored our nation’s history of mass shootings, assassinations, and unparalleled gun violence. It has instead accepted an abstract academic argument with dangerous real-world results for residents of the District of Columbia. Thankfully, because the plaintiff in Heller did not challenge the District's ban on "machine guns," Washington, DC’s ban on most semiautomatic weapons, including semiauto handguns, should be unaffected.” The ruling comes one day after a Kentucky factory worker killed five co-workers with a handgun before taking his own life. For a copy of the amicus brief submitted by the VPC in the case, please see http://www.vpc.org/hellerbrief.pdf. Background Information The Court’s ruling today does not appear to affect the District’s ban on “machine guns,” which under DC law includes any gun “which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily converted or restored to shoot semiautomatically, more than 12 shots without manual reloading.” This definition would include virtually all semiautomatic handguns. As a result, the District’s ban can remain in force for those types of handguns, commonly known as pistols. In essence, the Court’s ruling for the most part will only affect revolvers and derringers. **** Then one assumes then that all those police officers carry" Machine Gun" Glocks? The confusion is glorious! |
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Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be doing
an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could easily treble gun violence. 30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself. |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:27 +0000, NoOne@Home wrote:
Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be doing an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could easily treble gun violence. 30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself. Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/ traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995." We should outlaw cars. -- Tim Wescott Control systems and communications consulting http://www.wescottdesign.com Need to learn how to apply control theory in your embedded system? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" by Tim Wescott Elsevier/Newnes, http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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![]() "Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... snip Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/ traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995." We should outlaw cars. -- Tim Wescott I've almost died from a broken heart a number of times...we should ban women! |
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![]() Tom Gardner wrote: "Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... snip Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/ traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995." We should outlaw cars. I've almost died from a broken heart a number of times...we should ban women! Wouldn't that put a HUGE dent in your lesbian lifestyle? ;-) -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming' sheep. |
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![]() "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Tom Gardner wrote: "Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... snip Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/ traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995." We should outlaw cars. I've almost died from a broken heart a number of times...we should ban women! Wouldn't that put a HUGE dent in your lesbian lifestyle? ;-) Maybe I should start thinking MEN!!! |
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![]() "Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:27 +0000, NoOne@Home wrote: Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be doing an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could easily treble gun violence. 30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself. Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/ traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995." We should outlaw cars. Ban doctors, they killed 289,000 americans in 2006 trough abortion. Binladen should just give out scholarships to medical students then he would have some real WMDs in the form of MDs. Best Regards Tom. |
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azotic wrote:
"Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:27 +0000, NoOne@Home wrote: Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be doing an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could easily treble gun violence. 30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself. Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/ traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995." We should outlaw cars. Ban doctors, they killed 289,000 americans in 2006 trough abortion. They weren't americans yet, got to be born in USA to be one. Birth usually happens 8-9 months after conception, 9 being the norm. Those 289,000 were all aliens... Binladen should just give out scholarships to medical students then he would have some real WMDs in the form of MDs. Best Regards Tom. |
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"T.Alan Kraus" wrote:
Ban doctors, they killed 289,000 americans in 2006 trough abortion. They weren't americans yet, got to be born in USA to be one. Birth usually happens 8-9 months after conception, 9 being the norm. Those 289,000 were all aliens... So aliens can be killed? Gee I see a profit making oppertunity, web cams attached to rifles arrayed on the border, cross there, bang, and a reward for stopping another invader. Shooter and website get an equal cut of reward. Whole new concept of the dead mans line. |
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![]() "Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:55:27 +0000, NoOne@Home wrote: Dont know why BinLaden bothers with fighting the US, they seem to be doing an adequate job of killing themselves without his help at all. He should just buy handguns and give them away, I'm sure with some appropriate choice of repressed ethnic minorities (whites?) he could easily treble gun violence. 30,000 dead in a year. The American (Vietnam) War claimed 58,000 US lives over 20 years, seems to me that the US is at war with itself. Good point. From http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/ traffic_deaths_.html: "The number of traffic fatalaties has hovered between 41,000 and 43,000 since 1995." Maybe BinLaden should get his mates in Saudi Arabia to reduce the price of fuel to Americans and get more US made cars on the road. That should treble the road toll. He could also lobby that driving on the wrong side of the road is a fundamental right ensconced in the constitution. God only knows why he lives in a cave when his best bet at destroying the US is by getting them to do it themselves. He could pay an airline to take the FAA to task over forced aircraft maintenance - totally against the libertarian ideals of the founding fathers - whoever heard of the Mayflower having a 10,000 hour service? |
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"NoOne@Home" wrote in
: God only knows why he lives in a cave when his best bet at destroying the US is by getting them to do it themselves. I wonder - how much might he have contributed to the Obama Campaign? -- I used to be an anarchist but had to give it up: _far_ too many rules. |
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![]() "Eregon" Eregon@Saphira.ørg wrote in message ... "NoOne@Home" wrote in : God only knows why he lives in a cave when his best bet at destroying the US is by getting them to do it themselves. I wonder - how much might he have contributed to the Obama Campaign? Dont worry your pretty little redneck head about that. Hillary will be President once all the hand gun owning have finished filling Obama with lead. |
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Gunner wrote:
The spin has started...as has the website redesign... http://www.bradycampaign.org/ http://www.vpc.org/ fascinating...! Heck, we will have them trying to get firearms rights restored for murderers and rapists taking an absolute rights tact to force the courts to take a more narrow view that they can further exploit. Fish slime is like stickum compared to leftist lawyers. I wonder if Dick Anthony Heller will live long enough to have his own PDW in DC? Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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