what follows is something of a shaggy dog story, a link to ebay, and a
question - with that warning, read or ignore as you see fit. The object in
question is made of steel, so the mandatory metal content is satisfied, and
I even had to use an extractor to remove a piece I broke, so there is some
minor metal working content too.

About 20 years ago (plus or minus a few), at a swap meet I bought an
external canister oil filter thinking I might use it on a 36 cadillac I had
started restoring (by the way, the car still isn't done - but that probably
doesn't surprise anyone - there's a photo or two on my web page,
wbnoble.com). The filter came in a burlap bag, and when I decided that it
wasn't sufficiently original for my tastes, I hung it from the rafters of my
garage and pretty much forgot about it. Yesterday I looked up and noticed
that the burlap was starting to tear, so I took it down, wiped the dust off
it and put it on ebay - if I haven't used it in 20 years, the theory goes,
then I probably don't need it - but in the process of making up the listing,
I did a bunch of searching, found a catalog that listed it (all these things
are in the auction, here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300226458615
and I read the catalog description. This is a very large filter, but they
say it is for cars (!) with a crank case capacity of up to 6 quarts - so
that would be typical of most cars up through the 70s - 5 quarts being a
pretty common capacity. The filter itself holds 3 quarts - and it's really
quite big - bigger even than the ones that used toilet paper as the filter
medium.

So my question is were these things REALLY used on cars or was this more for
a truck or tractor application - somehow I just can't imagine it on a
regular passanger car - maybe they were used on taxis? Anyone on this group
remember these things and their usage? It's not at all clear what makes
them so special, to me it looks just like a giant canister oil filter - am I
missing something?

--
Bill
www.wbnoble.com


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This is a very common filter. They have been made by hundreds of different
manufacturers over the years world wide. The size of the filter determines
more than anything else, the pressure drop across the unit and the argument
is the bigger the better. Filters can operate in 2 modes, full flow or
bypass flow. This particular filter is clearly a bypass flow device because
of the small fitting size, so these do NOT work in all applications.
Steve

"William Noble" wrote in message
...
what follows is something of a shaggy dog story, a link to ebay, and a
question - with that warning, read or ignore as you see fit. The object
in question is made of steel, so the mandatory metal content is satisfied,
and I even had to use an extractor to remove a piece I broke, so there is
some minor metal working content too.

About 20 years ago (plus or minus a few), at a swap meet I bought an
external canister oil filter thinking I might use it on a 36 cadillac I
had started restoring (by the way, the car still isn't done - but that
probably doesn't surprise anyone - there's a photo or two on my web page,
wbnoble.com). The filter came in a burlap bag, and when I decided that it
wasn't sufficiently original for my tastes, I hung it from the rafters of
my garage and pretty much forgot about it. Yesterday I looked up and
noticed that the burlap was starting to tear, so I took it down, wiped the
dust off it and put it on ebay - if I haven't used it in 20 years, the
theory goes, then I probably don't need it - but in the process of making
up the listing, I did a bunch of searching, found a catalog that listed it
(all these things are in the auction, here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300226458615
and I read the catalog description. This is a very large filter, but they
say it is for cars (!) with a crank case capacity of up to 6 quarts - so
that would be typical of most cars up through the 70s - 5 quarts being a
pretty common capacity. The filter itself holds 3 quarts - and it's
really quite big - bigger even than the ones that used toilet paper as the
filter medium.

So my question is were these things REALLY used on cars or was this more
for a truck or tractor application - somehow I just can't imagine it on a
regular passanger car - maybe they were used on taxis? Anyone on this
group remember these things and their usage? It's not at all clear what
makes them so special, to me it looks just like a giant canister oil
filter - am I missing something?

--
Bill
www.wbnoble.com

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

My 39 supercharged Graham came with a bypass filter from the factory.
My question to you is; Where do you live?
My dad and I are going on tour next month in his freshly restored 1936
Series 70 Cadillac convertable, from Jackson, California. Having worked as
a restorationist I did a few things on this car, but he spent 5 years bring
it from a basket case to a beauty.
http://www.cadillaclasalleclub.org/2...008drivingtour
Dad may still have some sand-cast brass door handles and hood onraments.
that need finishing. Possibly bumper guards and pontoon fenders as well.

--
arborigine at yahoo dot com
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty

William Noble wrote:
what follows is something of a shaggy dog story, a link to ebay, and a
question - with that warning, read or ignore as you see fit. The object in
question is made of steel, so the mandatory metal content is satisfied, and
I even had to use an extractor to remove a piece I broke, so there is some
minor metal working content too.

About 20 years ago (plus or minus a few), at a swap meet I bought an
external canister oil filter thinking I might use it on a 36 cadillac I had
started restoring (by the way, the car still isn't done - but that probably
doesn't surprise anyone - there's a photo or two on my web page,
wbnoble.com). The filter came in a burlap bag, and when I decided that it
wasn't sufficiently original for my tastes, I hung it from the rafters of my
garage and pretty much forgot about it. Yesterday I looked up and noticed
that the burlap was starting to tear, so I took it down, wiped the dust off
it and put it on ebay - if I haven't used it in 20 years, the theory goes,
then I probably don't need it - but in the process of making up the listing,
I did a bunch of searching, found a catalog that listed it (all these things
are in the auction, here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300226458615
and I read the catalog description. This is a very large filter, but they
say it is for cars (!) with a crank case capacity of up to 6 quarts - so
that would be typical of most cars up through the 70s - 5 quarts being a
pretty common capacity. The filter itself holds 3 quarts - and it's really
quite big - bigger even than the ones that used toilet paper as the filter
medium.

So my question is were these things REALLY used on cars or was this more for
a truck or tractor application - somehow I just can't imagine it on a
regular passanger car - maybe they were used on taxis? Anyone on this group
remember these things and their usage? It's not at all clear what makes
them so special, to me it looks just like a giant canister oil filter - am I
missing something?

Luber-Finer filters are typically used on trucks and off-road equipment.
This is a universal filter assembly that is very common.
In 38 years in the auto parts business, I have never seen one on a
passenger car or light truck.

On Tue, 20 May 2008 21:25:42 -0700, "William Noble"
wrote:

what follows is something of a shaggy dog story, a link to ebay, and a
question - with that warning, read or ignore as you see fit. The object in
question is made of steel, so the mandatory metal content is satisfied, and
I even had to use an extractor to remove a piece I broke, so there is some
minor metal working content too.

About 20 years ago (plus or minus a few), at a swap meet I bought an
external canister oil filter thinking I might use it on a 36 cadillac I had
started restoring (by the way, the car still isn't done - but that probably
doesn't surprise anyone - there's a photo or two on my web page,
wbnoble.com). The filter came in a burlap bag, and when I decided that it
wasn't sufficiently original for my tastes, I hung it from the rafters of my
garage and pretty much forgot about it. Yesterday I looked up and noticed
that the burlap was starting to tear, so I took it down, wiped the dust off
it and put it on ebay - if I haven't used it in 20 years, the theory goes,
then I probably don't need it - but in the process of making up the listing,
I did a bunch of searching, found a catalog that listed it (all these things
are in the auction, here
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=300226458615
and I read the catalog description. This is a very large filter, but they
say it is for cars (!) with a crank case capacity of up to 6 quarts - so
that would be typical of most cars up through the 70s - 5 quarts being a
pretty common capacity. The filter itself holds 3 quarts - and it's really
quite big - bigger even than the ones that used toilet paper as the filter
medium.

So my question is were these things REALLY used on cars or was this more for
a truck or tractor application - somehow I just can't imagine it on a
regular passanger car - maybe they were used on taxis? Anyone on this group
remember these things and their usage? It's not at all clear what makes
them so special, to me it looks just like a giant canister oil filter - am I
missing something?

I would say yes, Where I used to work we used the larger Luber-lifer
filters, 10" dia x 20" tall, on industrial pumps, they were made for
use on diesel trucks. Filters were cheap, under $10.00 a real bargain
in my mind for one that big.

It was a model 750, which is not on their web site.

Thank You,
Randy

Remove 333 from email address to reply.

Thanks-now I have to clean the coffee off my monitor and keyboard...
JR
Dweller in the cellar

William Noble wrote:

About 20 years ago (plus or minus a few), at a swap meet I bought an
external canister oil filter thinking I might use it on a 36 cadillac I had
started restoring (by the way, the car still isn't done
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"Stupendous Man" wrote in message
...
My 39 supercharged Graham came with a bypass filter from the factory.
My question to you is; Where do you live?
My dad and I are going on tour next month in his freshly restored 1936
Series 70 Cadillac convertable, from Jackson, California. Having worked
as a restorationist I did a few things on this car, but he spent 5 years
bring it from a basket case to a beauty.
http://www.cadillaclasalleclub.org/2...008drivingtour
Dad may still have some sand-cast brass door handles and hood onraments.
that need finishing. Possibly bumper guards and pontoon fenders as well.


You can look me up in the Cad Lasalle membership directory.


arborigine at yahoo dot com
Stupendous Man,
Defender of Freedom, Advocate of Liberty


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"JR North" wrote in message
.. .
Thanks-now I have to clean the coffee off my monitor and keyboard...
JR
Dweller in the cellar

William Noble wrote:

About 20 years ago (plus or minus a few), at a swap meet I bought an
external canister oil filter thinking I might use it on a 36 cadillac I
had started restoring (by the way, the car still isn't done
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Glad to be of service - cofee is quite effective - nearly as good as simple
green - at cleaning the face of your monitor - and it's also really good for
keyboards, and it gives a nice aged look to paper "genuine 150 year old deed
to this here bridge - just look at the age of it"


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On Wed, 21 May 2008 20:21:56 -0700, "William Noble"
wrote:


"JR North" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks-now I have to clean the coffee off my monitor and keyboard...
JR
Dweller in the cellar

William Noble wrote:

About 20 years ago (plus or minus a few), at a swap meet I bought an
external canister oil filter thinking I might use it on a 36 cadillac I
had started restoring (by the way, the car still isn't done
--------------------------------------------------------------

Glad to be of service - cofee is quite effective - nearly as good as simple
green - at cleaning the face of your monitor - and it's also really good for
keyboards, and it gives a nice aged look to paper "genuine 150 year old deed
to this here bridge - just look at the age of it"


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
Don't know too much about coffee on keyboards, but beer makes them
sticky. A good spray down with isopropyl alcohol and blow out with
compressed air, repeated several times can rescue a favoured cordless
keyboard but it's good idea to turn off the computer while you do this
else you may get some strange results DAMHIKT.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada