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WTB 220 /240 Vac 3 ph AFC, 1 ph input
Since my apprentice days I have always been fascinated by gear
hobbing, and I finally did it! I purchased 3rd hand from an acquaintance of a friend an ALFRED GAUTHIER gear hobbing machine, little used and in excellent condition. Got most if not all change gears, operating instructions in German, a box full of hobs mostly 48 DP 14 1/2 and 20 deg. helix angle, some 64 DP, several 32 DP, 80! DP, 105! DP, and a bunch of metric MODULE hobs....a really cute little machine that fits naturally into my work shop. I WILL have to make work-holding mandrells, only these were missing. Usually they are custom made to suit the job-at-hand. Work envelope is 2 3/8" work dia.max (60 mm) x 1 1/2" (40 mm) long, fully automatic after initial setup. It also appears easy to set-up, gear boxes -3 of them- are easily accessible. The motor is 1/3 HP, 220/230 Vac, 3 ph 50 Hz. I have 220 Vac 1 ph available and would like an appropriate VFD to make it hum. I thought a 1/2 HP, 1 ph input unit would be the cat's meow. Does anyone have such a unit laying about crying out to "find me a good home"??? Iggy, do you fit the bill here? I live in SW Ontario, Canada, and would appreciate advice, availability, location, $$$$, etc. Many thanks for your efforts here! Wolfgang |
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Ignoramus1192 wrote:
On 2007-10-31, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, wrote: Since my apprentice days I have always been fascinated by gear hobbing, and I finally did it! I purchased 3rd hand from an acquaintance of a friend an ALFRED GAUTHIER gear hobbing machine, little used and in excellent condition. Got most if not all change gears, operating instructions in German, a box full of hobs mostly 48 DP 14 1/2 and 20 deg. helix angle, some 64 DP, several 32 DP, 80! DP, 105! DP, and a bunch of metric MODULE hobs....a really cute little machine that fits naturally into my work shop. I WILL have to make work-holding mandrells, only these were missing. Usually they are custom made to suit the job-at-hand. Work envelope is 2 3/8" work dia.max (60 mm) x 1 1/2" (40 mm) long, fully automatic after initial setup. It also appears easy to set-up, gear boxes -3 of them- are easily accessible. The motor is 1/3 HP, 220/230 Vac, 3 ph 50 Hz. I have 220 Vac 1 ph available and would like an appropriate VFD to make it hum. I thought a 1/2 HP, 1 ph input unit would be the cat's meow. Does anyone have such a unit laying about crying out to "find me a good home"??? Iggy, do you fit the bill here? I live in SW Ontario, Canada, and would appreciate advice, availability, location, $$$$, etc. Many thanks for your efforts here! Wolfgang I have a 1 phase input, 1/2 HP unit. New in box. $80 plus shipping. It is Telemecanique Altivar 18 or some such. Never used for anything. i For such a small motor (1/3HP) I'd just replace it with a $20 surplus single phase motor. That's also a good possibility, if he can find a 50 hz motor of same frame size. i A 60hz motor should be fine too. Don't expect a gear hobber is that picky on exact speed. |
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WTB 220 /240 Vac 3 ph AFC, 1 ph input
On 2007-11-01, Pete C. wrote:
Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, wrote: Since my apprentice days I have always been fascinated by gear hobbing, and I finally did it! I purchased 3rd hand from an acquaintance of a friend an ALFRED GAUTHIER gear hobbing machine, little used and in excellent condition. Got most if not all change gears, operating instructions in German, a box full of hobs mostly 48 DP 14 1/2 and 20 deg. helix angle, some 64 DP, several 32 DP, 80! DP, 105! DP, and a bunch of metric MODULE hobs....a really cute little machine that fits naturally into my work shop. I WILL have to make work-holding mandrells, only these were missing. Usually they are custom made to suit the job-at-hand. Work envelope is 2 3/8" work dia.max (60 mm) x 1 1/2" (40 mm) long, fully automatic after initial setup. It also appears easy to set-up, gear boxes -3 of them- are easily accessible. The motor is 1/3 HP, 220/230 Vac, 3 ph 50 Hz. I have 220 Vac 1 ph available and would like an appropriate VFD to make it hum. I thought a 1/2 HP, 1 ph input unit would be the cat's meow. Does anyone have such a unit laying about crying out to "find me a good home"??? Iggy, do you fit the bill here? I live in SW Ontario, Canada, and would appreciate advice, availability, location, $$$$, etc. Many thanks for your efforts here! Wolfgang I have a 1 phase input, 1/2 HP unit. New in box. $80 plus shipping. It is Telemecanique Altivar 18 or some such. Never used for anything. i For such a small motor (1/3HP) I'd just replace it with a $20 surplus single phase motor. That's also a good possibility, if he can find a 50 hz motor of same frame size. i A 60hz motor should be fine too. Don't expect a gear hobber is that picky on exact speed. As long as the centrifugal speed switch wuold properly open at 50 hz. i |
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Great!
A couple of weeks ago I saw a frightful sight. Hundreds of Hobbs in a large metal bin. They were new and sharp and all coated. Now scrap and not for sale. e.g. they got them to destroy and then sell as scrap. These were the size of my arm to leg size - big big Hobbs. Two large foundries are located in this town and do as they need. I get great prices on scrap sheet there. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ wrote: Since my apprentice days I have always been fascinated by gear hobbing, and I finally did it! I purchased 3rd hand from an acquaintance of a friend an ALFRED GAUTHIER gear hobbing machine, little used and in excellent condition. Got most if not all change gears, operating instructions in German, a box full of hobs mostly 48 DP 14 1/2 and 20 deg. helix angle, some 64 DP, several 32 DP, 80! DP, 105! DP, and a bunch of metric MODULE hobs....a really cute little machine that fits naturally into my work shop. I WILL have to make work-holding mandrells, only these were missing. Usually they are custom made to suit the job-at-hand. Work envelope is 2 3/8" work dia.max (60 mm) x 1 1/2" (40 mm) long, fully automatic after initial setup. It also appears easy to set-up, gear boxes -3 of them- are easily accessible. The motor is 1/3 HP, 220/230 Vac, 3 ph 50 Hz. I have 220 Vac 1 ph available and would like an appropriate VFD to make it hum. I thought a 1/2 HP, 1 ph input unit would be the cat's meow. Does anyone have such a unit laying about crying out to "find me a good home"??? Iggy, do you fit the bill here? I live in SW Ontario, Canada, and would appreciate advice, availability, location, $$$$, etc. Many thanks for your efforts here! Wolfgang ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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WTB 220 /240 Vac 3 ph AFC, 1 ph input
On Oct 31, 10:23 pm, "Martin H. Eastburn"
wrote: Great! A couple of weeks ago I saw a frightful sight. Hundreds of Hobbs in a large metal bin. They were new and sharp and all coated. Now scrap and not for sale. e.g. they got them to destroy and then sell as scrap. These were the size of my arm to leg size - big big Hobbs. Two large foundries are located in this town and do as they need. I get great prices on scrap sheet there. Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.http://lufkinced.com/ wrote: Since my apprentice days I have always been fascinated by gear hobbing, and I finally did it! I purchased 3rd hand from an acquaintance of a friend an ALFRED GAUTHIER gear hobbing machine, little used and in excellent condition. Got most if not all change gears, operating instructions in German, a box full of hobs mostly 48 DP 14 1/2 and 20 deg. helix angle, some 64 DP, several 32 DP, 80! DP, 105! DP, and a bunch of metric MODULE hobs....a really cute little machine that fits naturally into my work shop. I WILL have to make work-holding mandrells, only these were missing. Usually they are custom made to suit the job-at-hand. Work envelope is 2 3/8" work dia.max (60 mm) x 1 1/2" (40 mm) long, fully automatic after initial setup. It also appears easy to set-up, gear boxes -3 of them- are easily accessible. The motor is 1/3 HP, 220/230 Vac, 3 ph 50 Hz. I have 220 Vac 1 ph available and would like an appropriate VFD to make it hum. I thought a 1/2 HP, 1 ph input unit would be the cat's meow. Does anyone have such a unit laying about crying out to "find me a good home"??? Iggy, do you fit the bill here? I live in SW Ontario, Canada, and would appreciate advice, availability, location, $$$$, etc. Many thanks for your efforts here! Wolfgang ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==----http://www.newsfeeds.comThe #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- The reason I want the VFD is to vary the motor speed, also. The stock motor has a speed of 1400 RPM on the name plate, which is ok for brass gears with the 24 mm dia. hob (std size for this machine). I also want to hob gears from stress proof and leaded steel, therefore the hob should run a lot slower. There are no belting speed change steps, that's why I think it was set- up for brass, bronze, aluminum, or plastic gears. Spent this evening getting familiar with the beast...everything works, and looks in very good condition. Took some of the stiff assemblies apart to clean and oil. What quality! Iggy, thanks for your offer. Now that I am more familiar with the thing perhaps a 1/2 HP motor and drive would be better so as to provide adequate torque at low speed. Space for the motor is not a problem. I looked up your unit on the 'net and it looooks complicated! What I had in mind is one with a knob to vary the frequency......digital frequency read-out is nice, though! Can your unit accept potentiometer input to vary the frequency? And, where are you located? I'd probably have you ship it via US parcel post. It takes a week or so from the continental US but you don't get robbed for border paper work. Sooo, let me know if your unit can operate with a variable resistance. Thanks, Wolfgang |
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Ignoramus1192 wrote:
On 2007-11-01, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, wrote: Since my apprentice days I have always been fascinated by gear hobbing, and I finally did it! I purchased 3rd hand from an acquaintance of a friend an ALFRED GAUTHIER gear hobbing machine, little used and in excellent condition. Got most if not all change gears, operating instructions in German, a box full of hobs mostly 48 DP 14 1/2 and 20 deg. helix angle, some 64 DP, several 32 DP, 80! DP, 105! DP, and a bunch of metric MODULE hobs....a really cute little machine that fits naturally into my work shop. I WILL have to make work-holding mandrells, only these were missing. Usually they are custom made to suit the job-at-hand. Work envelope is 2 3/8" work dia.max (60 mm) x 1 1/2" (40 mm) long, fully automatic after initial setup. It also appears easy to set-up, gear boxes -3 of them- are easily accessible. The motor is 1/3 HP, 220/230 Vac, 3 ph 50 Hz. I have 220 Vac 1 ph available and would like an appropriate VFD to make it hum. I thought a 1/2 HP, 1 ph input unit would be the cat's meow. Does anyone have such a unit laying about crying out to "find me a good home"??? Iggy, do you fit the bill here? I live in SW Ontario, Canada, and would appreciate advice, availability, location, $$$$, etc. Many thanks for your efforts here! Wolfgang I have a 1 phase input, 1/2 HP unit. New in box. $80 plus shipping. It is Telemecanique Altivar 18 or some such. Never used for anything. i For such a small motor (1/3HP) I'd just replace it with a $20 surplus single phase motor. That's also a good possibility, if he can find a 50 hz motor of same frame size. i A 60hz motor should be fine too. Don't expect a gear hobber is that picky on exact speed. As long as the centrifugal speed switch wuold properly open at 50 hz. i He's in Canada, they have 60HZ power there. |
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On 2007-11-01, Pete C. wrote:
Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-11-01, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, wrote: Since my apprentice days I have always been fascinated by gear hobbing, and I finally did it! I purchased 3rd hand from an acquaintance of a friend an ALFRED GAUTHIER gear hobbing machine, little used and in excellent condition. Got most if not all change gears, operating instructions in German, a box full of hobs mostly 48 DP 14 1/2 and 20 deg. helix angle, some 64 DP, several 32 DP, 80! DP, 105! DP, and a bunch of metric MODULE hobs....a really cute little machine that fits naturally into my work shop. I WILL have to make work-holding mandrells, only these were missing. Usually they are custom made to suit the job-at-hand. Work envelope is 2 3/8" work dia.max (60 mm) x 1 1/2" (40 mm) long, fully automatic after initial setup. It also appears easy to set-up, gear boxes -3 of them- are easily accessible. The motor is 1/3 HP, 220/230 Vac, 3 ph 50 Hz. I have 220 Vac 1 ph available and would like an appropriate VFD to make it hum. I thought a 1/2 HP, 1 ph input unit would be the cat's meow. Does anyone have such a unit laying about crying out to "find me a good home"??? Iggy, do you fit the bill here? I live in SW Ontario, Canada, and would appreciate advice, availability, location, $$$$, etc. Many thanks for your efforts here! Wolfgang I have a 1 phase input, 1/2 HP unit. New in box. $80 plus shipping. It is Telemecanique Altivar 18 or some such. Never used for anything. i For such a small motor (1/3HP) I'd just replace it with a $20 surplus single phase motor. That's also a good possibility, if he can find a 50 hz motor of same frame size. i A 60hz motor should be fine too. Don't expect a gear hobber is that picky on exact speed. As long as the centrifugal speed switch wuold properly open at 50 hz. i He's in Canada, they have 60HZ power there. That's great. He mentioned a 50 Hz motor. Hence my words. But I am sure that you are right. i |
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On Nov 1, 9:24 am, Ignoramus19538 ignoramus19...@NOSPAM.
19538.invalid wrote: On 2007-11-01, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-11-01, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus1192 wrote: On 2007-10-31, wrote: Since my apprentice days I have always been fascinated by gear hobbing, and I finally did it! I purchased 3rd hand from an acquaintance of a friend an ALFRED GAUTHIER gear hobbing machine, little used and in excellent condition. Got most if not all change gears, operating instructions in German, a box full of hobs mostly 48 DP 14 1/2 and 20 deg. helix angle, some 64 DP, several 32 DP, 80! DP, 105! DP, and a bunch of metric MODULE hobs....a really cute little machine that fits naturally into my work shop. I WILL have to make work-holding mandrells, only these were missing. Usually they are custom made to suit the job-at-hand. Work envelope is 2 3/8" work dia.max (60 mm) x 1 1/2" (40 mm) long, fully automatic after initial setup. It also appears easy to set-up, gear boxes -3 of them- are easily accessible. The motor is 1/3 HP, 220/230 Vac, 3 ph 50 Hz. I have 220 Vac 1 ph available and would like an appropriate VFD to make it hum. I thought a 1/2 HP, 1 ph input unit would be the cat's meow. Does anyone have such a unit laying about crying out to "find me a good home"??? Iggy, do you fit the bill here? I live in SW Ontario, Canada, and would appreciate advice, availability, location, $$$$, etc. Many thanks for your efforts here! Wolfgang I have a 1 phase input, 1/2 HP unit. New in box. $80 plus shipping. It is Telemecanique Altivar 18 or some such. Never used for anything. i For such a small motor (1/3HP) I'd just replace it with a $20 surplus single phase motor. That's also a good possibility, if he can find a 50 hz motor of same frame size. i A 60hz motor should be fine too. Don't expect a gear hobber is that picky on exact speed. As long as the centrifugal speed switch wuold properly open at 50 hz. i He's in Canada, they have 60HZ power there. That's great. He mentioned a 50 Hz motor. Hence my words. But I am sure that you are right. i Iggy, I found a suitable unit locally...... thanks for your kind offer. Wolfgang |
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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:30:55 -0500, Ignoramus1192
wrote: Space for the motor is not a problem. I looked up your unit on the 'net and it looooks complicated! Mine is actually ATV28. I just looked at it. On page 37 of the manual it explains how ot wire it for a potentiometer. What I had in mind is one with a knob to vary the frequency......digital frequency read-out is nice, though! Can your unit accept potentiometer input to vary the frequency? Yes, see page 37 of the manual. I set up an ATV28 (1hp) for my remaining Myford on Friday. The options in the manual are fairly complex, but it's not all that frightening once you ignore all the unnecessary ones :-). Programming is quite easy if you haven't mounted the bloody thing where you need a prehensile neck to see it :-( The cooling fan on it is annoying (unnecessary for the duty mine's working under). You may also want to adjust the default (4kHz) switching frequency, which tends to be quite noticeable. Other than that, they seem to work quite well and take up less space than many I've seen. Mark Rand (sowing additional confusion) RTFM |
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