It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

I'm know what you mean. Sad indeed.

I have some endmills and what not from a JEDEC meeting up north
and I got to drive down on an off day and shop. It was interesting
when I checked into the airport - had 1" down to 3/16" endmills
in my briefcase. The airport guy was understanding on the strange
looking stuff.

When the wing started to be built overseas - that was the death nail.
Seems like I heard Kansas is building just not in Washington.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

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Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

Does that mean the vital parts will now be made in China? Hmm...

David R Brooks wrote:

Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

Does that mean the vital parts will now be made in China? Hmm...

So Boeing went the way of the US auto industry. Nothing made in house, farm
out manufacturing to anyone willing to bid. Play suppliers against each
other in a race to the bottom with quick reaction teams to move tooling and
contracts to the next vend^H^H^H^Hvictim.

Wes

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:25:45 +0800, David R Brooks
wrote:

Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

Does that mean the vital parts will now be made in China? Hmm...
==========
Wrong tense -- should be "are being" and not "will be."

google on boeing china for about 3.2 mill hits.

for quick info click on
http://www.boeingchina.com/en/index.htm
http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices.../boechina.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/FI03Ad05.html

FWIW -- wide body aircraft was supposed to be one the segments
that America would dominate in the brave new world economy and
would replace those nasty textile and electronics assembly jobs
we were exporting, with higher wages and better working
conditions.

Another example of a transnational corporation that was once
American doing well, while the Americans take it in the shorts.

And you say Americans aren't signing up for engineering courses
-- is that your problem bunkie?

Unka' George [George McDuffee]
============
Merchants have no country.
The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment
as that from which they draw their gains.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826),
U.S. president. Letter, 17 March 1814.

"F. George McDuffee" wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:25:45 +0800, David R Brooks
wrote:

Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

Does that mean the vital parts will now be made in China? Hmm...
==========
Wrong tense -- should be "are being" and not "will be."

google on boeing china for about 3.2 mill hits.

for quick info click on
http://www.boeingchina.com/en/index.htm
http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices.../boechina.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/FI03Ad05.html

FWIW -- wide body aircraft was supposed to be one the segments
that America would dominate in the brave new world economy and
would replace those nasty textile and electronics assembly jobs
we were exporting, with higher wages and better working
conditions.

Another example of a transnational corporation that was once
American doing well, while the Americans take it in the shorts.


So, who needs terrorists to bring down a plane? Just build it in a
chinese sweatshop and let it fall apart on its own?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

--I'm holding out for Rutan surplus, heh.

--
"Steamboat Ed" Haas : A steaming pile of
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : obscure information...
www.nmpproducts.com
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

On 30 Jul 2007 01:00:06 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, steamer
quickly quoth:

--I'm holding out for Rutan surplus, heh.

"Brother, can you spare a booster rocket?"

---------------------------------------------------
I drive way too fast to worry about my cholesterol.
---------------------------------------------------

I read a pocket book on air crashes.... one you don't want to read again -
and this was while I was on a plane once a week...

The company would allow anything overseas or out of the shops - but the
wing held the secrets.

Another company could steal a tail and everything else and get nothing to fly
without the high tech built into the wing.

Once out - it spelled the downfall and demise of the company - and several
air crashes from bad parts (not spec) in new airplanes.

Martin

Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


David R Brooks wrote:
Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

Does that mean the vital parts will now be made in China? Hmm...

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I heard China got a lot of it - but some is being build in Kansas.
But talk is cheap. One never really knows.

The XIT ranch - largest cattle ranch is busted up - the King Ranch is in
the process. Heirs don't hold what creators did.

Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Life; NRA LOH & Endowment Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/


Wes wrote:
David R Brooks wrote:

Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.
Does that mean the vital parts will now be made in China? Hmm...

So Boeing went the way of the US auto industry. Nothing made in house, farm
out manufacturing to anyone willing to bid. Play suppliers against each
other in a race to the bottom with quick reaction teams to move tooling and
contracts to the next vend^H^H^H^Hvictim.

Wes

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After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned
David R Brooks wrote on Sun, 29 Jul 2007
14:25:45 +0800 in rec.crafts.metalworking :
Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

Does that mean the vital parts will now be made in China? Hmm...

Nope. Boeing isn't making parts anymore, but that doesn't mean all
the work went overseas. Some of it went up the road, some of it went to
Montana. BWTH, they moved headquarters to Chicago, so why worry about
King County's inability to see reality?


pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich
New Years Eve: when the beautiful promise of tomorrow is transformed
into the ugly reality of today, and the disgusting miasma of now becomes
the rosy nostalgic netherworlds of yesterday.

Larry Jaques wrote:

On 30 Jul 2007 01:00:06 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, steamer
quickly quoth:

--I'm holding out for Rutan surplus, heh.

"Brother, can you spare a booster rocket?"

---------------------------------------------------
I drive way too fast to worry about my cholesterol.
---------------------------------------------------


How about a Titan III retro rocket housing?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Michael A. Terrell wrote in article
...
"F. George McDuffee" wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 14:25:45 +0800, David R Brooks
wrote:

Wally wrote:
It's been awhile since I'd been there, the selection of goodies the
last couple times was disappointing. I got to talking to one of the
Boeing people there and he agreed. He says, "we don't build
anything
anymore, we just assemble". Then he told me they were closing up in
September.

Does that mean the vital parts will now be made in China? Hmm...
==========
Wrong tense -- should be "are being" and not "will be."

google on boeing china for about 3.2 mill hits.

for quick info click on
http://www.boeingchina.com/en/index.htm
http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices.../boechina.html
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/FI03Ad05.html

FWIW -- wide body aircraft was supposed to be one the segments
that America would dominate in the brave new world economy and
would replace those nasty textile and electronics assembly jobs
we were exporting, with higher wages and better working
conditions.

Another example of a transnational corporation that was once
American doing well, while the Americans take it in the shorts.


So, who needs terrorists to bring down a plane? Just build it in a
chinese sweatshop and let it fall apart on its own?




Ought to become quite interesting when it is discovered that some Chinese
manufacturer arbitrarily and unilaterally decides to eliminate one or more
components or manufacturing steps as has happened in the tire fiasco.

On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:31:54 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

So, who needs terrorists to bring down a plane? Just build it in a
chinese sweatshop and let it fall apart on its own?

Except that isn't going to happen. Why produce in the US when you can
produce the EXACT same thing in China with the same materials,
processes, and quality assurance that you can in the US....only MUCH
cheaper (as far as the bottom line is concerned)

It's capitalism.


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